Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[MHM]

For the fans of Boyd Martin and Philip Dutton on the witness stand, here are a couple of cross country pictures of them from Kentucky yesterday. Boyd Martin is in second place right now, and Philip Dutton is in seventh. I believe the 5* show jumping starts at 2:00 this afternoon on the USEF Network.

Chronicle article:

FischerChipmunk FRH Proves His Prowess At Land Rover Kentucky CCI5*-L

[ekat]

@Omgitsme

I know someone who takes suboxone and I can tell you it doesn’t prevent you from getting high using other drugs. As I understand it, if you take extra suboxone you can get a high from that alone.

I have known more than a few people that go to the clinic, get their sub strips, cut them into pieces, take a small piece to “hold them over” till they can find heroin (or fentanyl/oxy) and sell or trade the rest of the strip because the clinic will give them more.

This way they can tell their loved ones, “of course I’m clean. I’m taking Suboxone. I’m going to the clinic.” Inevitably, they fail enough drug tests they get the boot from the clinic and have to find a new one. But usually the story from them sounds a lot more like, “the counselor hates me.” “They started charging too much, I had to find a cheaper clinic” “clinic is closed for a few weeks” “counselor is on leave”….

And none of that precludes them from using meth and or crack to keep them awake when they have to be awake.

Drug addiction sucks.

[ekat]

Thank you.

[erinmeri]

My only experience with anything like Suboxone was giving Buprenex (Buprenorphine) to my cat with pancreatitis. I had to fight hard to get it for her during her flares. I asked my then next door neighbor, an addict in recovery, why one bottle was so hard to get and the vet was always insisting on a 3-day supply of pre-filled syringes (which was $$$ and annoying to go pick up and repeatedly fight for). He told me that even though Bupe has a ceiling, if he were using he would want to get his hands on a bottle - even if it wouldn’t have many human doses. It would get him “high enough”.

That said, Suboxone is not the same as Buprenex. As I understand it, Suboxone has Narcan (Naloxone) in it… so it blocks the high:
“Naloxone, when added to buprenorphine, blocks the effects of the opioid medication, including pain relief or feelings of euphoria (the “high”) that can lead to opioid abuse.“
https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/buprenorphine-suboxone-3543859/

[Angela_Freda]

@FitzE

This is so striking in this case. Like a certain US politician that LK loves to excoriate, she is the most clear example of projection I have ever seen. A couple examples:

• LK said MB body shamed people
  -> LK body shamed the young woman stranger she stalked through a shop
• They had a coordinated effort in the trial to make sure both LK and RG said MB told racist jokes:
  -> LK posted a racist trash review of a BO in NC
• LK called MB a ‘perv’ on these boards (post miraculously still there/not deleted)
  -> what could possibly more more pervy than:

1. speculating what graphic sex act a young woman was involved in when her minor son was drowning
2. following a young stranger in a store, stalking her and waiting to capture on film an up-skirt shot when she bends over

[KurPlexed]

My understanding of soboxone is that the user is given a bracelet of sorts in case of medical emergency so emt/drs know that person is on soboxone bc pain meds will not work on them.

[MHM]

Bonus pictures of Boyd Martin and Philip Dutton from the jog this morning at Kentucky.

Chronicle article:

Two Spun At Land Rover Kentucky Final Horse Inspection

[eggbutt]

I hope the level of intimidation the Kanarek Gang (family & supporters) use has not gone unnoticed!! Look at the ramped up anti Eggbutt posts recently! They know dang well I’m not going to stop vocalizing the truth about them, so they attack me hoping they will intimidate others to stay quiet. That tactic has worked well for them for years until the major blunder of LK privately threatening posters on this forum and since the truth about them came from their own mouths during the trial!

It is very important, IMO, that people shed the light on this crew. They hope silence will buy them time for intelligent people to forget who and what they are. The truth about these people must remain front and center to keep them from targeting new victims, whether strangers shopping wearing unusual clothing to random posters commenting on public forums to fellow boarders. These people know no boundries.

[FitzE]

@eggbutt

Look at the ramped up anti Eggbutt posts recently!

There was quite an aggressive burst of activity on that front. It didn’t work out so well, did it? The rest of us can read and we also watched the trial so, no one is buying what posters like that are selling these days.

I don’t believe I’ve seen such agreement on a topic on these boards before, in fact. And it’s a view that is echoed on YouTube, the live stream chat, and true crime sites, as well.

I cannot remember seeing someone so universally disliked/discredited before, from COTH posters to true crime fans to the 12 jurors.

[DownYonder]

@ekat

Typically an evidentiary hearing is the judge and his staff, a court reporter, attorneys and their staff, and the defendant. Anyone else is up to the discretion of the judge, and since a lot of evidence is likely to be excluded, most judges keep that circle pretty tight so that inadmissible stuff doesn’t get out.

Victims have a right to be advised of the status, but at least here in my state they don’t necessarily have the right to be present at a closed hearing.

Thanks. I was just curious about who besides attorneys, judge, and defendant might have seen or heard all the evidence before the trial. And which of those folks might have “leaked” info to the victim or her legal representative (or family member). I can’t image Mr. B or Mr. D doing it and I would certainly hate to think that the judge or Schellhorn or Bennett did it as I would think the professional repercussions could be quite punitive. Right?

[DownYonder]

@ekat

And none of that precludes them from using meth and or crack to keep them awake when they have to be awake.

I was always surprised at LK’s postings during the wee hours. I kept thinking, “If I had 3-4 horses to ride, I would be so exhausted I would hit the pillow at 8 pm and not wake up until 6 AM.” But given her propensity to miss lessons, etc., I guess she was sleeping during the day,.

[eggbutt]

I suspect good old daddy obtained random information from the DA’s office and shared it with others. The Civil trial may be a bit different though and he may even be named in the suit(s).

[BrownDerby]

@eggbutt

It is very important, IMO, that people shed the light on this crew. They hope silence will buy them time for intelligent people to forget who and what they are. The truth about these people must remain front and center to keep them from targeting new victims, whether strangers shopping wearing unusual clothing to random posters commenting on public forums to fellow boarders. These people know no boundries

I am convinced that her behavior will escalate. It is not her MO but her very brain set. She cannot help it. And her parents obviously don’t give a rip about her except to throw more money at her.

@eggbutt if you were a horse I’d buy you. You’ve got legs!

[eggbutt]

@BrownDerby

@eggbutt if you were a horse I’d buy you. You’ve got legs!

. That’s one of the nicest compliments I’ve ever received!

[DownYonder]

@eggbutt

I suspect good old daddy obtained random information from the DA’s office and shared it with others. The Civil trial may be a bit different though and he may even be named in the suit(s).

So someone at the DA’s office was leaking info to Daddy-O?

Adding that I am showing my age by using the term “Daddy-O.” It was a slang term from my younger days to refer to someone’s father (it apparently originated in the jazz community).

[LexInVA]

Visual depiction of the Equestrian world and Internet bystanders rallying against Lauren Kanarek…

[BrownDerby]

@DownYonder

Adding that I am showing my age by using the term “Daddy-O.” It was a slang term from my younger days to refer to someone’s father (it apparently originated in the jazz community).

Started by the beats/beatniks, popularized by Maynard G. Krebs.

[ekat]

@DownYonder

Thanks. I was just curious about who besides attorneys, judge, and defendant might have seen or heard all the evidence before the trial. And which of those folks might have “leaked” info to the victim or her legal representative (or family member). I can’t image Mr. B or Mr. D doing it and I would certainly hate to think that the judge or Schellhorn or Bennett did it as I would think the professional repercussions could be quite punitive. Right?

There’s no chance Judge T or his staff leaked anything. If he were going to do that, he would have just handpicked media reps to be there, and cautioned them not to discuss until the trial is over, eliminating any blowback on him.

It wouldn’t necessarily be a leak for Mr Schellhorn or his peeps to tell the victim something like, for example, “yeah, most of the audio is not coming in.” That would actually be standard to do, since they are supposed to keep the victim updated. Since the evidence in question likely came from the victim, they’d be able to hazard a good guess what “most” means while still wondering (and possibly stressing) about why it’s “most” not all.

The thing is, there’s no rule to keep those hearings closed. It’s usually the judge’s discretion, and they err on the side of caution, to keep the case from being tried in the media and tainting the jury pool.

[eggbutt]

@DownYonder

So someone at the DA’s office was leaking info to Daddy-O?

@Inigo-montoya implied, no stated they had friends on both sides giving him information. Little ditties like, “I can promise you there is no one MB hates more than MG” indicating he had heard from “insiders” that it was agreed “none of this would have happened without MHG”. (Paraphrased) IM eluded with certainty the outcome of the trial would be guilty times 4 once the plea was rejected. Although the entire tone of the LK squad changed dramatically after the plea rejection IMO - from raving what a huge mistake it was to reject it, to almost an Oh, Shxt! tone!

[DownYonder]

@BrownDerby

Started by the beats/beatniks, popularized by Maynard G. Krebs.

I think the beatniks adopted it from the jazz community. It was apparently coined in the 1910 - 1920 era.and came into wider usage in speakeasy establishments during Prohibition. And then found new life during the beatnik era of the 50’s-60’s. (More useless info for this thread. )