Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

(Yes, I quoted myself)

And this person has made it very clear, if you do not want her there, she will be there. There is no doubt that if someone was teaching there that Bob knew did not want her around, she would be getting her driver on the move and she would be there at the barn.

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Yep - like I said, she will try to ways to circumvent the rules, including leveraging any “legal” loophole she can find.

As has been said so many times - WHO DOES THAT?

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Because poor horsey needs its leg hosed or wrapped or somesuch. :laughing:

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This is OT, but I have a general question. I fell down the rabbit hole yesterday after someone posted links to the competition Boyd Martin and Phillip Dutton were in yesterday. I watched a ton of videos including one that was produced by Purina about Boyd Martin that had me in tears. He has been thru so much! Anyways, I keep hearing/seeing the term “influential” used in terms of equestrian events and I can’t figure out what it means. I googled and didn’t see anything. Here is an example of Phillip Dutton using it in a FB post:

Cross-country was obviously very influential today, and I’m fortunate to have two very good cross-country horses! Caroline Moran’s Quasi Cool moved up from 15th into 3rd in the CCI4-S, and I’m increasingly excited about him and what he’s going to be able to do in the future!*

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In your example they are saying that the cross country phase moved a lot of placings around.

I would say it is a fancy way of saying cross country was tough.

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It means the course was very challenging, and the penalties, including time penalties for going over the optimum time, that competitors might accrue on the cross country course could really shake up the standings headed into the final round of competition on the last day.

In this event, for example, there were three riders in the top 10 whose final placings on Sunday were separated by 1/10 of a point.

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I think that makes sense, TY. I hadn’t dug into how the scoring works, but if I’m understanding you, the scores for each of the different events are combined. Then in the event yesterday, the cross country portion had scores that changed the overall position of the riders.

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Does she even drive? She would be chauffeur’d, no?

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Yes.

The first phase of the event is the dressage phase, where each exhibitor receives a score for the dressage test held in the ring. The dressage test is when the horse and rider perform a pattern of specified movements which are scored by a judge or panel of judges, depending on the level of competition.

Then the goal from that point on is to try not to get any jumping or time penalties added to that dressage score during the next two phases of cross country and show jumping, also known as “finishing on your dressage score.” Which is what the winner did in this case.

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I think he does that every year!

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I think that’s assuming alot.
For one, I wouldn’t want to be around her groom, RG either, myself


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It does seem to be a habit with him! In addition to dabbling in the regular jumpers at the Grand Prix level. Lol.

It also amazes me to think that multiple riders from this weekend were getting right on a plane to go to England and do the whole thing all over again this week with different horses. I can’t even imagine. :hushed:

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See, @ScaredOfHorses, isn’t it fun to learn all this new stuff?

If you want to tell us the general area in the country you live, someone here could point you to a horse show or 3day event you could see in person. Fun!

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No, all barns should have a signed agreement that they can end the partnership at any time with a 30 days notice. Then you give the person 30 days notice. It’s standard practice when one leaves or is asked to leave. I have over years told people this was not a good fit and gave them 30 days. I have had people tell me they were leaving for whatever reason and they give 30 days.
I know she’s difficult but if you handle it like a business deal and no working this or that off it goes much better. I don’t make any deals with people who board here, that gets too messy.

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No, I’m not saying MHG, MB, LK were a love triangle of any type.

MHG apparently dropped MB very suddenly after the shooting. Another poster defended MHG for dropping him so abruptly on the grounds she was looking after the interests of her children.

Way back, there was a post that said that prior to 2019, when MB and VKB were still married, MB, VKB, and MHG were all living and training at Hawthorne Hill. The post said that VKB did not want a divorce, but that MHG and MB conducted their affair openly until VKB was driven out. I do not know whether LK was there at the time or not. I don’t know if it’s true. While I understand divorce is commonplace and often the best, or only, step in some situations, forcing the current wife out of the picture by carrying on with the younger protege before obtaining a divorce, or even a separation, strikes me as unspeakably selfish and cruel on the part of MB. And MHG.

On the issue of MHG conducting her life putting the children’s interest foremost, I was pointing out that MHG left her husband, disrupting the lives of her children, to train with and have an affair with a trainer (currently married according to the post) who she thought could help her further her dressage ambitions. The fact that she left MB so abruptly after the shooting, when he was delusional and incarcerated, indicates to me that the basis for the relationship was something other than a loving commitment. After the shooting, the danger from LK and RG was over.

I don’t know if the post about MHG and MB carrying on under his current wife’s nose is true or not. But it fits with IMs statements that MB gave up everything (his marriage and business partner and half his assets) for MHG. If the relationship with MHG was not going well by summer of 2019, prior to the shooting, that would a huge amount of stress for MB.

I don’t think LK was making a play for MB, or that MHG considered LK a romantic rival. I can well imagine that MHG resented LK taking up MB’s time and attention in terms of training, though, and wanted her gone for that reason.

Apparently MHG wanted LK gone as early as April 2019, but MB declined to give LK notice that he was ending the training/boarding arrangement for months. Instead, he tried to keep LK as a client and somehow appease MHG. When the pressure and impossibility of doing both became unbearable, he experienced a mental break and shot LK.

What I don’t understand, or disagree with, is this narrative that the tragedy was 100% created by LK. She obviously had her role in creating the situation which eventually blew up. But MB, MHG, and RC also had major roles in creating the situation. MB has been acquitted due to his insanity. But was MHG delusional as well?

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It is fun especially since I’m an information junkie which I admit can sometimes be a problem lol. I actually just looked up events in my area and it appears there are equestrian events occurring all around me. Maybe someday I’ll attend. Is there a way to look up where certain riders will be competing?

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Do you think that this makes a person who does not want to leave actually leave?

I can tell you that it does not.
Having known someone who gave a boarder proper notice and the boarder refused to leave. They liked it there and they did not want to go anywhere else.
Even with the help of a lawyer it took a good long time to get them out of there.

Yes, there was a contract.

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So you’ve written this whole movie in your head based on a social media post, even though you don’t know it if it’s true or not, combined with the word of IM?

Got it. You can enjoy whatever movie you have going on in your head. That does not mean anyone else needs to buy a ticket to it, or review it for you.

:snowflake::snowflake::snowflake:

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Their Facebook page may give info on their schedule.

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We have told you that LK was not there when the X-wife was there. Period. If you are choosing to ignore it as a fact that is not because you do not know it is a fact.

The wife was gone before the relationship with MHG too. Again. If you are choosing to ignore it as a fact that is not because you do not know it is a fact.

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