Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[ekat]

Try here.

https://portal.njcourts.gov/webcivilcj/CIVILCaseJacketWeb/pages/publicAccessDisclaimer.faces

Once you get past the recaptcha you have to pick Civil Part

[3PonyFarm]

Thanks for linkng that, I was having trouble with it.

[Joanne]

4/29/2022

[MHM]

@ekat

SGF had asked the court to compel Morris County to give them all the social media postings that LK authored, that had been disclosed to MB.

Boy, I feel terribly sorry for all the different people who have to wade through all that material as part of their jobs. Whatever they’re getting paid, I’m sure it won’t be enough compensation for that grisly task.

[ekat]

You’re welcome.

FWIW, the Court entered the order to lift the stay. Paper discovery (interrogatories, documents, etc) to be complete by August 1st. Depositions to commence August 2nd.

[ekat]

@MHM

Boy, I feel terribly sorry for all the different people who have to wade through all that material as part of their jobs. Whatever they’re getting paid, I’m sure it won’t be enough compensation for that grisly task.

Me too. Especially since a lot of what I’ve seen is so, how do I say, odd? Odd’s not quite the right word….

[MHM]

So does this mean Mr. B will not be involved in the civil case? I don’t see his name listed there.

[3PonyFarm]

In the Civil trial with a countersuit, is there just one trial with each side presenting their case and the jury makes a decision? I wasn’t sure how that worked.

[ekat]

@3PonyFarm

In the Civil trial with a countersuit, is there just one trial with each side presenting their case and the jury makes a decision? I wasn’t sure how that worked.

Generally, yes. Plaintiff goes first, then the defendants. Think Johnny Depp/Amber Heard. I haven’t paid super close attention, but I think they’re still on his case. When it concludes, they’ll take up her counterclaim.

[3PonyFarm]

Ok, that makes sense. Thank you.

[lazaret]

SGF attempted to compel the MCPO to produce their entire investigative file - on investigation into Barisone, but ALSO into any investigation conducted into charges against LK.

In their reply, MCPO tries to argue that the posts that she’s since tried to wipe should be under a nondisclosure order: “However, in the event the Court is inclined to compel production of
these records over the MCPO’s objection, a confidentiality and non-disclosure order would be
necessary in order to protect the integrity of both the criminal prosecution and the safety and
interests of L.K. Although these postings were allegedly public at one point, they are not any
longer.”

[3PonyFarm]

Is that why their name is listed?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

LK is far from blameless. But to claim that MB, MHG, and RC did not have major roles and responsibility in creating the situation that led MB to have a mental breakdown is nuts.

You have previously stated that MB did lots of terrible, horrible things to LK but have yet to name any of them. The only thing you came up with was the fact he eventually decided to do a background check in her. Very reasonable, in light of how she was behaving.

What did MB do that was in any way equivalent to LK’s campaign to ruin him?

Well, I’m not sure I said the “MB did lots of terrible, horrible things to LK”. Part of it is what he did not do: give her 30 days notice in April, May, or June, (or better yet, tell her she could not train with him in NJ in spring 2019 at all) when it became clear that MHG had a lot of animosity toward LK. I also think the absence of clear written contracts on the renovations and horse sale contributed to the mess.

Why run a background check on someone you’ve been training for a year and a half and had living in the house for months? Not for you decide whether you want to accept them as a client and tenant.

MB and MHG wanted USEF to ban LK, and my interpretation of the PI report was to “compile” a file of damning stuff, along with reports from her SM enemies like GJ and HB.

If he already knew he just wanted her gone, just give her 30 days notice, and get a restraining order and hire security if necessary.

Compiling a 700 page file to submit to USEF and SS to get her banned is obviously hostile. She reciprocated by filing a SS complaint on him. I thought when I first listened to the 911 calls (for: they’re in the barn after 9:00 pm; they posted a creepy FB post 14 hours ago; the clients refuse to sign a contract I want them to sign) that he was using the police to harass them. In retrospect, it may be explained by his delusions. But calling 911 because a client declined to sign a contract is either harassment or excused by delusional behavior. He may have blown off their request for payment for the renovations (I have no idea who owed who what; but I can see the sloppy financial dealings may have led to an unresolved financial dispute). They reciprocated by calling the FM and BI. Telling the farrier not to shoe LKs horses.

I see the two sides as tragically evenly matched in terms of being willing to “cut off their own nose to spite their face” rather than back down. Each side stupidly refused to back down. Both sides ended up in a much worse situation than was available if they had been willing to back down.

[Joanne]

@MHM

So does this mean Mr. B will not be involved in the civil case?

We have known for a while here that Mr. B. is not involved in the civil case and that Attorney Chris Deininger is.

[lazaret]

likely yes, they filed a response brief to the subpoena requesting the records. I imagine they will be requested again as the entire reply has to do with them being material to a criminal matter that is now disposed.

[3PonyFarm]

Thank you.

[lazaret]

@CurrentlyHorseless

calling 911 because a client declined to sign a contract

Calling 911 because someone is assaulting you verbally in response to your request may be entirely valid, though.

[ekat]

@lazaret

SGF attempted to compel the MCPO to produce their entire investigative file - on investigation into Barisone, but ALSO into any investigation conducted into charges against LK.

In their reply, MCPO tries to argue that the posts that she’s since tried to wipe should be under a nondisclosure order: “However, in the event the Court is inclined to compel production of
these records over the MCPO’s objection, a confidentiality and non-disclosure order would be
necessary in order to protect the integrity of both the criminal prosecution and the safety and
interests of L.K . Although these postings were allegedly public at one point, they are not any
longer. ”

That is very, very interesting. I think I must have missed that response. I’m so curious to see what happens going forward.

[MHM]

@Joanne

@MHM

So does this mean Mr. B will not be involved in the civil case?

We have known for a while here that Mr. B. is not involved in the civil case and that Attorney Chris Deininger is.

Thanks. I thought there had been some mention of the possibility that Mr. B might also be involved.

[ekat]

@MHM

Thanks. I thought there had been some mention of the possibility that Mr. B might also be involved.

I thought I saw that or read that too.