Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[MHM]

@ekat

That is very, very interesting. I think I must have missed that response. I’m so curious to see what happens going forward.

As it turns out, maybe LK had some sort of reason for acting as if she had the prosecutor or police on her payroll.

[LilRanger]

@MHM

maybe LK had some sort of reason for acting as if she had the prosecutor or police on her payroll.

Delusions of grandeur and magical thinking, I’d say. That answer sounds pretty pat to me, and likely she spun them a yarn about victimization.

[3PonyFarm]

Morris County Prosecutor's Office holds promotional ceremony for legal...

CS recently got a promotion.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

LK is far from blameless. But to claim that MB, MHG, and RC did not have major roles and responsibility in creating the situation that led MB to have a mental breakdown is nuts.

You have previously stated that MB did lots of terrible, horrible things to LK but have yet to name any of them. The only thing you came up with was the fact he eventually decided to do a background check in her. Very reasonable, in light of how she was behaving.

What did MB do that was in any way equivalent to LK’s campaign to ruin him?

Well, I’m not sure I said the “MB did lots of terrible, horrible things to LK”. Part of it is what he did not do: give her 30 days notice in April, May, or June, (or better yet, tell her she could not train with him in NJ in spring 2019 at all) when it became clear that MHG had a lot of animosity toward LK. I also think the absence of clear written contracts on the renovations and horse sale contributed to the mess.

Why run a background check on someone you’ve been training for a year and a half and had living in the house for months? Not for you decide whether you want to accept them as a client and tenant.

MB and MHG wanted USEF to ban LK, and my interpretation of the PI report was to “compile” a file of damning stuff, along with reports from her SM enemies like GJ and HB.

If he already knew he just wanted her gone, just give her 30 days notice, and get a restraining order and hire security if necessary.

Compiling a 700 page file to submit to USEF and SS to get her banned is obviously hostile. She reciprocated by filing a SS complaint on him. I thought when I first listened to the 911 calls (for: they’re in the barn after 9:00 pm; they posted a creepy FB post 14 hours ago; the clients refuse to sign a contract I want them to sign) that he was using the police to harass them. In retrospect, it may be explained by his delusions. But calling 911 because a client declined to sign a contract is either harassment or excused by delusional behavior. He may have blown off their request for payment for the renovations (I have no idea who owed who what; but I can see the sloppy financial dealings may have led to an unresolved financial dispute. They reciprocated by calling the FM and BI. Telling the farrier not to shoe LKs horses.

I see the two sides as tragically evenly matched in terms of being willing to “cut off their own nose to spite their face” rather than back down. Each side stupidly refused to back down. Both sides ended up in a much worse situation than was available if they had been willing to back down.

Based on your posts I believe you see nothing.

Nothing but delusion.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@lazaret

@CurrentlyHorseless

calling 911 because a client declined to sign a contract

Calling 911 because someone is assaulting you verbally in response to your request may be entirely valid, though.

True. His stated reason for the 911 call was that the clients were refusing to sign the contract, though.

On listening to the call, I found it bizarre. On learning of the verdict of insanity/delusional behavior, I reinterpreted in light of delusional behavior.

I have been “assaulted verbally” once or twice, and it never occurred to me to call 911.

[MHM]

Wow, really? I wonder if that promotion had been decided before this case went to trial.

[lazaret]

It would occur to me to call 911 if I was having an aggressive in-person dealing with someone with whom I have a business relationship. Allegedly that person was making threats and had been acting deranged while on my property.

Getting on the record there was a reportable event is important even if you think it’s dumb.

[BrendaJane]

the infamous paper trail.

But y’all could seriously pull the O2 on that certain someone.
Unless of course you want to keep this alive til the civil trial.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@lazaret

It would occur to me to call 911 if I was having an aggressive in-person dealing with someone with whom I have a business relationship. Allegedly that person was making threats and had been acting deranged while on my property.

Getting on the record there was a reportable event is important even if you think it’s dumb.

Calling 911 to get on the record that a client is refusing to sign a document? Or calling 911 to get on the record that you’re being verbally assaulted?

If the latter, why didn’t he tell the 911 operator “I’m being verbally assaulted”?

If he didn’t make the calls out of delusion, I think it was a form of harassment. Just like her calling the BI was a form of harassment.

[LookinForSpace]

Questions regarding all the user names, aliases, and houseguests, maybe for some of the legal experts here…

At some point, LK was required to provide her user names for various accounts on SM, but does that apply to NEW names created since that request? Was she required to identify ALL SM platforms that she was active on?

Does she have to now indicate if she creates/has created a new account name before (or during!) the civil case, either on COTH or, say on the Law and Crime YouTube channel?

Was she/will she be required to acknowledge to Barisone’s legal team what usernames/accounts are controlled by family members and BF, or any supporters who may take direction from her or her family on what to post?

[DownYonder]

@dotneko

These last pages are about the civil case. If LK can be seen as not the primary factor in MBs breakdown, then her liability in his loss of income becomes less. I see it as trying to minimize their contributions to damages. But, I am not a lawyer and am naturally suspicious.
Back to lurking.

That is pretty much what I am thinking, too. Someone is trying to set the narrative that LK cannot be viewed as solely accountable for the situation that led to MB’s mental break and the destruction of his business and livelihood - that he himself was somewhat responsible by the way he was conducting his personal life. The constant harping by a certain someone about MB’s marriage, divorce, and involvement with MHG makes no sense otherwise. The intent is an attempt to sway any of his friends or associates who are reading this thread, in hopes they can persuade him to offer a settlement. It makes me wonder if they are worried about their case, given the verdict in the criminal trial and the public unveiling of LK and RG as junkies, squatters, grifters, and psychological terrorists.

[trubandloki]

@MHM

Wow, really? I wonder if that promotion had been decided before this case went to trial.

Or it is just another example of this part of the world not expecting anyone in public service to actually do anything well.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@lazaret

@CurrentlyHorseless

calling 911 because a client declined to sign a contract

Calling 911 because someone is assaulting you verbally in response to your request may be entirely valid, though.

True. His stated reason for the 911 call was that the clients were refusing to sign the contract, though.

On listening to the call, I found it bizarre. On learning of the verdict of insanity/delusional behavior, I reinterpreted in light of delusional behavior.

I have been “assaulted verbally” once or twice, and it never occurred to me to call 911.

Well, at least you are back to focussing on this call instead of relationships and the timing thereof… circling one way - and then the other.

When you were “assaulted verbally” or threatened, did you have a tumultuous history and issues with that person as MB did? If you had called 911 - or anyone - would you give a quick explanation of what happened before the “verbal assaults/threat” began as MB did? If so, how heinous!!

You are presenting this as if this call/incident simply fell out of the clear blue sunny sky for no reason whatsoever - and that nasty meanie MB decided to try and make sweet LK look bad for no reason - the poor thing! /s

Yeah - this time I added the /s - in case the dripping sarcasm was not obvious enough.

You purposefully ignore any contributing issues or history or the character of the individuals involved… because that would not support your assertion in any way.

Again - I cannot shake the sense of deja vu…

I really am trying to cut off the O2 at my end - but the dang valve seems to be stuck…

[Knights_Mom]

@DownYonder

@dotneko

These last pages are about the civil case. If LK can be seen as not the primary factor in MBs breakdown, then her liability in his loss of income becomes less. I see it as trying to minimize their contributions to damages. But, I am not a lawyer and am naturally suspicious.
Back to lurking.

That is pretty much what I am thinking, too. Someone is trying to set the narrative that LK cannot be viewed as solely accountable for the situation that led to MB’s mental break and the destruction of his business and livelihood - that he himself was somewhat responsible by the way he was conducting his personal life. The constant harping by a certain someone about MB’s marriage, divorce, and involvement with MHG makes no sense otherwise. The intent is an attempt to sway any of his friends or associates who are reading this thread, in hopes they can persuade him to offer a settlement. It makes me wonder if they are worried about their case, given the verdict in the criminal trial and the public unveiling of LK and RG as junkies, squatters, grifters, and psychological terrorists.

Of course they are worried about their case! Wouldn’t you be?

They’ve lost. Lost as far as opinion here, on social media, in the public eye and with a jury. And not just lost but in a spectacular fashion when the defense strategy used was absolutely laughed at prior to trial with success rates in single digits only.

19,000 pages of delusion is quite damning and that freak flag flying will further solidify a pro MB conclusion.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

@MHM

Wow, really? I wonder if that promotion had been decided before this case went to trial.

Or it is just another example of this part of the world not expecting anyone in public service to actually do anything well.

Another strong possibility.

[3PonyFarm]

Maybe they thought he would quit midway through the trial.

[ekat]

@LookinForSpace

Does she have to now indicate if she creates/has created a new account name before (or during!) the civil case, either on COTH or, say on the Law and Crime YouTube channel?

Was she/will she be required to acknowledge to Barisone’s legal team what usernames/accounts are controlled by family members and BF, or any supporters who may take direction from her or her family on what to post?

I’m very curious about this, too. I wonder if Barisone’s lawyers will do new interrogatories? Also, where does RG’s SM fit? Because some of his posts I’ve seen sound like she wrote them.

[MHM]

@Knights_Mom

And not just lost but in a spectacular fashion when the defense strategy used was absolutely laughed at prior to trial with success rates in single digits only.

Was it even single digits? I thought I read somewhere that it came out to only .25% or something.

Pretty darn low, anyway.

[SillyHorse]

I just checked the GoFundMe and saw a donation by “Lauren Kanawreck.” Someone has a great sense of humor! If that someone is on this forum, I want you to know that I love you.

Also, an Eggy Butt donated.

[Omgitsme]

that is utterly ridiculous. So much assumption and character assignation in one post.