Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[ekat]

@erinmeri

LOL, I don’t hate Lauren Kanarek anymore than I hate you. I don’t know her. I can, at the same time, dissect her behavior and her own words and discuss the events testified to in court.

You know, there are whole pockets of the internet, and multiple books written trying to figure out why Chris Watts annihilated his family. I bring this case up because his wife lived her life on SM. People have spent years dissecting every word of every post or video. And quite frankly, there are some nut jobs that think Shanann Watts brought it on herself. That group of nut jobs makes this group look so happy, butterflies, peace and kindness.

When things happen that don’t make sense, people try to make it make sense. When people give you volumes of info to look for meaning, well, people look. It doesn’t make anyone awful. There’s a reason crime blogs and tv shows and channels and podcasts and YouTubers etc keep gaining popularity. Because we all want someone to make it make sense, and maybe help us protect or insulate ourselves, or find peace with similar situations in our own lives.

[FitzE]

@CurrentlyHorseless

You’re also right that I remain skeptical unless proof is provided.

@CurrentlyHorseless

You’re also right that I remain skeptical unless proof is provided.

Then you will understand we remain sceptical that there is a post in which BFFFFFFF says ‘even if’ she watched/listened to illegal recordings until you provide that post.

It may, indeed, be out there. It may have been the Plan B response once the two Bestieeeeees were alert to potential criminal implications of their wiretapping show and tell time.

But the one everyone remembers is the one posted by @omgitsme so you were kind of arguing with yourself because we were all remember, and thus referencing the one for which a screenshot actually was provided.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@erinmeri

And yet - nobody here is saying it’s 100% her fault.

I do.

Thanks, Eggbutt!

[erinmeri]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Then what problem do you have with me? I’ve sent you no PMs.

That was mot directed at you. Please explain the question. Why do you think I am hot or bothered by you? I am merely asking you to stand by your words.

[eggbutt]

@erinmeri

@eggbutt

do

Well you and I have a history of disagreeing from time to time! And that’s a-ok by me!

that’s because there is a level of respect and understanding of each other’s POV.

Many of these posters simply want to argue for arguments sake.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@erinmeri

@CurrentlyHorseless

People on here have said, explicitly, that it is exactly 100% her fault.

If you don’t believe me, fine. I’m not looking it up.

Then stop asking others for receipts. If your memory is sufficient, then so is that of others. Sheesh!

Fortunately, Eggbutt provided an unsolicited testimonial.

[ekat]

@Danvers

am learning so much legal stuff here - thank you

You’re welcome. You can now teach me everything you know about Boyd Martin and Phillip Dutton and, we’ll anyone else I need to know about.

[3PonyFarm]

I was just reading about Crimecon 2022 that just wrapped up in Las Vegas. They even have a CrimeCuise.
You are right that alot of people have an interest in these types of stories. I don’t know that I would want to go on a crime cruise but it is interesting to learn how these things happen and how they are solved.

[ekat]

@3PonyFarm

I was just reading about Crimecon 2022 that just wrapped up in Las Vegas. They even have a CrimeCuise.
You are right that alot of people have an interest in these types of stories. I don’t know that I would want to go on a crime cruise but it is interesting to learn how these things happen and how they are solved.

Crimecon? And Crime Cruise? I mean, a cruise in which you acted out roles of a crime would be fun. A cruise where you sit around and dissect real crimes would depress me.

[3PonyFarm]

I think there would only be so much I could listen to before I headed to the slots if I was in Vegas.

[ekat]

@3PonyFarm

I think there would only be so much I could listen to before I headed to the slots if I was in Vegas

I’m right there with you!

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

You’re also right that I remain skeptical unless proof is provided.

So what proof has IM ever provided? You seem to believe every word he says.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@FitzE

@CurrentlyHorseless

There is a screen shot of it back in a previous thread.

Note to all: henceforth when CH demands you do her secretarial work and comb various threads for her, please find above an easy copy-paste reply that she will find acceptable.

You can then go on to assert whatever you are asserting without fear that she will attempt to discredit you if you don’t show the post you remember or reference. She will accept this reply unconditionally since it is the very one she gives herself.

This is going to make a lot of the disagreements much easier to resolve here! Hallelujah!!

[NB: this is my new ‘signature to all [my] posts’!]

I do not demand others produce posts, because I wouldn’t expect them to comply. If a post is not voluntarily provided, I often remain skeptical of the statement lacking documentation.

I believe this is what most posters do.

[Scribbler]

@RHdobes563

@SillyHorse

@DownYonder

Mr. B also seemed to enjoy listening to Dr. Stache “opening doors.”

His expression during that testimony was priceless!

Looking at this photo, I’m reminded of how early on in the trial quite a few readers here were worried that Mr. B wasn’t up to the challenge of defending MB. I admit I was a little worried, too. Boy, were we wrong. Mr. B is a god.

I may just have to make Mr. Bilinkas above my desktop picture!

RE: The gun.

I could make a post saying I own two saddles popular in the 70’s and 80’s, a Passier and a Stubben. Later, I might check and find that the Passier is actually a Crosby. I go back and change “Passier” to Crosby. Being of the “LK persuasion”, I might say, “I DON’T own a Passier—find the post where it says that!” Or, I might delete the post totally and say, “FIND a post where I say I own a Passier!”

After two and a half years of LK saying one thing and then rewriting it, the “I never lie”, etc., I can easily believe she did something like that above with the “models” of her guns. She might NOT have ever owned a Rutger, but she MIGHT have written (at least once) that she DID.

LK testified at the trial she owned one gun that was left in NC and had been shopping for a second but did not own it. So more shtpost SM lies.

[Danvers]

Aren’t they Dreamy and Brave… and show good Character …

[Scribbler]

@erinmeri

@CurrentlyHorseless

My point was that in the one particular post I was referring to, if read in the context on the whole sentence, including the qualify clause “Even if I heard the recordings, …” that post did not establish that the friend had heard the recordings. Some posters had used that particular post to say that friend had heard the recordings.

Stripping a clause from a full sentence with qualifying clauses that greatly change the meaning happens a lot. The other example just today is Sdel (?) claiming LK lied under oath by saying she never edited or deleted her posts. The statement by LK under oath was more like “Generally, I don’t edit or delete posts , except in the case of duplicate posts or posts made in error.” That statement is not honestly or accurately summarized as “I don’t edit or delete posts.”

What I’m arguing against is the extremely frequent gross mischaracterizarion of posts.

You are grossly mischaracterizing the tenure of LK’s statement under oath in context of her behavior here on COTH.

Don’t go all English professor and try to change the nature of your argument. You are purposely attempting to be slippery. Girlfriend, I read for comprehension and I consider context.

Wanna talk about context? On what planet are whatever words Lauren used true or honest given what she did here time and time again until she was banned? Is contradicting oneself “duplication” or “posting in error”? If she says she generally does not engage in the behavior (editing and deleting) that we have all witnessed countless times except when it is in cases of duplication or error? Well, that seems disingenuous based on what we ALL have witnessed. So I ask you, is that not LYING UNDER OATH? It is our observation, as witnesses to the behavior that she testified to that does not agree with what we witnessed. How is that for context? Curious your thoughts on that…

Please don’t insult English professors :). CH is the farthest thing from one. The key skill is accurate reading and analysis, and supporting an argument with references to what the text actually says. That’s why it’s good training for law.

[MHM]

@ekat

@3PonyFarm

I was just reading about Crimecon 2022 that just wrapped up in Las Vegas. They even have a CrimeCuise.
You are right that alot of people have an interest in these types of stories. I don’t know that I would want to go on a crime cruise but it is interesting to learn how these things happen and how they are solved.

Crimecon? And Crime Cruise? I mean, a cruise in which you acted out roles of a crime would be fun. A cruise where you sit around and dissect real crimes would depress me.

I’ve never heard of either of those things. Who knew?

[ekat]

@MHM

I’ve never heard of either of those things. Who knew?

The things we’re learning in here.

[ekat]

@Danvers

Aren’t they Dreamy and Brave… and show good Character …

Yes! They were a definite bright spot in this mess.

[3PonyFarm]

They had a impressive lineup of speakers. The next one is in Orlando except for the one in the UK.