This so does happen. It has happened to me. It’s like - um, I was reading that, where did it go?
Oh, the list of maybes could be so very long
Maybe something in their contracts was updated and everyone had to sign a new one.
Maybe everyone was given one to sign when they moved in for the season and they just thought to check and saw that LK never turned hers in.
Maybe …
Well said.
Whoa. So much for all the tsk-tsking and lectures about bad poster behavior in these allegedly heinous, horrible threads. It seems my comments about irony and hypocrisy were spot on.
I agree with all of that ^. I do find the “suggestion” that there is/was some kind of coordinated conspiracy (a cabal of sorts) to flag/get rid of Equkelly or anyone else… to be ridiculous paranoia.
Equkelly had some extreme meltdowns in other threads/forums as well. It was not just for using FFS (there - I did it) or simply disagreeing with others in these threads as has been implied…
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This is why I would love to see the transcript/video of the interview RG did with the police the night of the shooting. I think, based on how Mr B was trying to get into that, he might have said something in that first interview.
Of course, when RG was presented with the transcript on cross, and asked if it refreshed his memory, about something else, he steadfastly said no, so Judge T told him to move on.
My recollection is that RG told the first officer on scene that there was video of the altercation.
I wonder if he repeated that claim at his interview with police.
Me too! I wonder a whole lot about that interview. In the aftermath and heat of the moment, with little to no opportunity to collaborate with LK, what was his story that night? And how has it evolved?
I’m going to guess: Extensively.
If he repeated this claim, it is just unfathomable why they did not secure that data from the camera, the cloud, wherever it was
Undoubtedly.
Well, this makes me feel better. I was starting to think there was something going wrong with my computer. I was reading this thread and the screen kept jumping around, what I was reading was going way up the page (scroll worthy).
Even without repeating it, it’s unfathomable to me. Here you have a woman with two bullet wounds, a guy beat to a pulp including dog puncture wounds, and a third, unscathed guy saying it’s all on video! They should have preserved it right then.
I have another question for the legal peeps. Since the jail is holding MB until an opening is available at the mental health facility and I am assuming the jail has limited training and care facilities for a person with a mental illness, what liability does the jail have if GF something would go wrong until the time that he is moved?
I am thinking along the lines of Conforti v. Ocean
County Corrections in NJ. It is not quite the same situation but the person was denied medical assistance for their pain management as I understand it. I believe his widow won a judgement of 1.5 millon as a result.
I will try to find the article about the case and link it.
This is the article.
Personally, my concern is, what liability does the State have in not procuring a spot for him and keeping him incarcerated even though NJ case law is super clear that a NGRI acquittee is not to be incarcerated.
There’s only 13 days left till his hearing and he’s still sitting in jail, missing an evaluation.
As to the jail’s liability, I guess (and this is purely a guess) it would come down to whether or not they’ve changed their care and control of MB the inmate since the verdict. He’s been there 2.5 years, presumably without incident. If he’s shown no outward signs of change or need for increased protocols, and they haven’t changed anything in what they’ve been doing with him the last 2.5 years then I’d think they’re in the clear? But that guess is presuming a whole lot of things.
The case you linked is extremely sad, and more common than people would like to admit. The biggest difference there is, the guy was in, had accommodations, was released. Re-offended, returned to jail, and no accommodations for any of his disabilities, including alcohol withdrawals. The devil’s in the details in how that happened but the jail and its personnel didn’t have anything that convinced they weren’t liable. Very sad on many levels.
Thanks for your reply. The MB case has brought to light many problems within jails and prisons. I agree with you that it is very sad.
For an excellent, informative video on prison/prison reform check out John Oliver.
I did see that one on a previous thread! It was sad to watch even with John Oliver’s humor.
John Oliver is great. And that was thoroughly depressing. What’s also depressing is that whenever people talk about prison reform, they inevitably leave county jails out of the discussion because they primarily have different purposes, different funding streams and really, people don’t care much about the guy that’s just being held awaiting trial.
I’m guessing that most people think of that as a relatively short term situation without realizing that the person can sit there for years, as we have seen in this case.
Granted, I’m sure the pandemic slowed things down. But I’m also sure there were plenty of people who sat around in the jail for a long time before the pandemic.
The pandemic certainly didn’t help, but yes, lots of people sit around a long time awaiting trial. In some ways, the Bail Reform in NJ is better than what we have here. People can sit in the county jail for a year waiting for trial, for lack of $5,000 for example, on non-violent crimes.
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