Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[OntheFnce]

@Fat_Dinah

I think that since the criminal case found he did shoot her, that the events leading up to it don’t matter. The insanity defense does not extend to civil liablity.
Her “stuff” will only be admissible in a suit brought by him for emotional distress.

I would imagine that he would file a counter suit to hers with a long list of damages including loss of business and can guarantee it will be in the tens of millions.
ETA - plus libel and slander.

[Knights_Mom]

@Fat_Dinah

No, you think that repeating misinformation over and over makes you right.
Like Trump and the election.

I’m staunchly anti trump but thanks for your attention.

[Fiesta01]

I wasn’t a follower. I just typed her name in twitter to see the posts referenced above but received the blocked notification.

[Fiesta01]

Thanks!

[MHM]

Plus the circumstances were wildly different in that case compared to this one.

[Fat_Dinah]

Ok, repeating lies like Alex Jones saying the shooting at Sandy Hook was a hoax and the children never existed and their parents were “crisis actors”. Is that non political enough?

[trubandloki]

Now, I am not a lawyer and do not play one on TV and have not done that whole Holiday Inn Express thing, but I thought the first part of a personal injury case is that they have to prove who is at fault.
To me, the fact that jury said not guilty by reason of insanity and that the trial said the insanity caused by LK, it would be hard to say that anyone but LK is responsible for their damages.

@Fat_Dinah

Ok, repeating lies like Alex Jones saying the shooting at Sandy Hook was a hoax and the children never existed and their parents were “crisis actors”. Is that non political enough?

What the heck? Are you just trying to be ridiculous?

We are discussing.

[Akogler]

@trubandloki

am always amused by the people who can not have a discussion without tossing out some political crap. What the heck, leave the politics in current events. Find other ways to tell posters you do not agree with their post.

No kidding. Some people live rent free in peoples heads I swear.

Can we just all be thrilled and relieved?!

[MHM]

@trubandloki

I also wonder if she trimmed down her followers list to maybe be more people she (thinks) she knows.

Gee, I wonder why?

[trubandloki]

@Akogler

Can we just all be thrilled and relieved?!

Yes! We should all be doing a happy dance and then thinking about how to do something good because of this happiness.

[NSC_Los_Angeles]

Just wanted to say that though we may disagree on aspects of this case it warms my heart to see you all still hating trump.

This is a good bunch in here.

[smoofox]

@MHM

@Sugarfoot1

what an excellent jury, I worked for 2 criminal lawyers in Texas for 22 years, and I never once had an insanity case. Courts ditched that option after John Hinkley Jr was granted insanity and sent to a fancy private mental hospital instead of prison for the rest of his life.

Coincidentally, in the Court TV clip posted upthread a bit, one of the legal talking heads was saying the last time she remembered a successful insanity defense was the John Hinckley case. And I think the other talking head before her did not even remember a single one.

I think that speaks to the impact that LK and RG made on the jury… and not in their favor.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@CindyB59

But, I shows what a different perspective a civil jury can see when presented different/more info

More likely the criminal case had a level of proof of “beyond a reasonable doubt” while the civil case had the lower “by a preponderance of the evidence.”

[PDDT]

Whatever one thinks about Judge T’s alleged biases and his manner of speaking to Mr. B and sometimes sometimes the other counsel, he was very gracious to the jury, and the witnesses excepting of course the paid witnesses. Judging from body language and remarks caught on video, court staff seemed to have a good working relationship with him too.

Lawyers get paid to advocate and argue. They can be really annoying at times. I say this with great affection for the lawyers I work with and respect for the profession.

[Rowdy]

Do you feel better now? I hope so.

[MHM]

Probably very true.

[Cowgirl]

Re: the civil case, three points:

The Plaintiff in that case received her bronze medal in 2020 and earned scores similar to at the same level of her pre-injury scores. In fact, maybe slightly better. Damages?

As for the Defendant’s counterclaims regarding what was intentionally done to him–he is the model eggshell plaintiff. Under the doctrine of the eggshell plaintiff, the defendant who has aggravated an eggshell plaintiff’s pre-existing condition is liable for all of the consequences of the result. The question is whether or when the doctrine applies to mental health injuries in New Jersey. This kind of thing varies from state to state.

Finally, the Plaintiff was in the hospital for approximately 3 weeks; the Defendant likely will be receiving some form of residential treatment far longer. It is likely that his medical bills will far outpace hers.

[Akogler]

@NSC_Los_Angeles

Just wanted to say that though we may disagree on aspects of this case it warms my heart to see you all still hating trump.

This is a good bunch in here.

I think you missed her point…

[MHM]

@PDDT

Whatever one thinks about Judge T’s alleged biases and his manner of speaking to Mr. B and sometimes sometimes the other counsel, he was very gracious to the jury, and the witnesses excepting of course the paid witnesses. Judging from body language and remarks caught on video, court staff seemed to have a good working relationship with him too.

I did notice the judge had his arms crossed in front of his body a lot when the jury was going in and out, though. Lol.

[rothmpp]

It shows as Protected for me - I would need to request access, which I have no interest in doing.

I wonder if rather than completely nuking her FB if she set privacy settings so she does not show up in a search at all. I find it hard to believe that she’d completely shut it down.