Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Angela_Freda]

@trubandloki

@FitzE

She has also threatened suits for years, so she must be well prepared to be in this spotlight.

I think she underestimated her target(s) this time. She (and her clan) have managed to make the threats work for them for so long, they never imagined someone would not just bow to their wants

Do it long enough, pick people to go after, and your luck just may run out.

[Warmblood1]

LK: “I have proof of murder plots against me!”

Also LK: Doesn’t even know the definition of murder having believed she was murdered already.

[eggbutt]

I very sincerely hope no one stops LK/Bob/et al from posting. These latest posts are solid gold for the civil case.

As far as 48 Hours…these folks are absolute pros at making people like Lauren think they are “on their side”. Last report I heard was they were still unable to find anyone (outside of family) to speak positively about Lauren and her father. I know they were pursuing Nellie but I don’t know if they contacted her or if she agreed to go on record before millions of people to express her undying love for her bestie. Yes, 48 Hours has a plethora of dirt on the Kanareks. I hear they are still looking for one particular party to cooperate with them. Wonder who that could be?

[jvanrens]

@ekat

Hmmmm, Wonder why that oh so impressive audio wasn’t used in the trial?

I was wondering the same. Would the show use illegal or totally taken out of context audio? I wonder who is going to look bad if it’s used?

[Angela_Freda]

The last bit about spoke to LPD after your dad (JK?) called the mayor…

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

LK was being bashed on this forum while still in the hospital and in a coma, months before the civil suit was filed. To suggest that the filing of her civil suit is the reason people are discussing her dirty laundry is ridiculous. Eggbutt has said many times, honestly, that she hates LK and wants to “warn” others about her, hence it is her mission to repeat every negative allegation she can work up. Some of the allegations seem to be true, others not so much.

Despite some extremely fanciful “speculation” to the effect that LK masterminded the whole shooting, deliberately goading MB into shooting and injuring her so she could sue and “take his farm”, LK did not ask to be shot and did not ask to be the center of attention in this spectacle. Neither did MB, RC, MHG or any of them.

MHG was not involved in the criminal case, except as a witness. LK was not involved in the criminal case, except as the victim, and as a witness. The criminal case was the state of NJ vs MB.

MHG, along with LK, was involved in the interpersonal conflict that led to the shooting and the criminal case, however. That is why she is being discussed here.

In the trial, the testimony revealed a strong mutual dislike between MHG and LK. Why did MHG dislike LK? I don’t know since I wasn’t there, but possibilities are: LK was taking up MBs time and attention, MHG considered LK a rich dilettante, whatever. Why did LK dislike MHG? Possibilities are: MHG disliked her and was pressuring MB to get her kicked out, she perceived MHG looked down on her and faulted her for missing lessons, whatever.

In the interpersonal relationship between two people, it’s almost always the case that same general emotion is reflected back and forth: friendship, hate, indifference, whatever. I suppose one party could feel friendship toward the other, and have the feeling returned with indifference, but generally when it comes to strong dislike and hate, it’s a two way street. It’s not a mystery as to why LK disliked MHG; she knew she was disliked by MHG.

MBs associates have not talked about the case publicly under their own names. But I’m convinced that Eggbutt has been posting all along with inside information from at least one of Barisone’s close associates. So Barisone’s associates refrained from stooping to throwing mud, and worse, under their own names, but nevertheless got the mud thrown on a daily basis by Eggbutt and cohorts.

The hypocrisy in the continued mantra that LK is fair game for any allegation and insult, while the role of MHG may not be discussed, is breathtaking.

No one, to my knowledge, is taking any active steps to limit MHGs future in the sport. I have pointed out the obvious — that MHG participated with MB in compiling a 750+ page file on LK and sent it to USEF on the day before MB shot her. I don’t believe for a minute that the PI report or the “reaching out” to GJ, HB, and other SM enemies (EB says she was not contacted) was for information on “how other people had gotten her out.” Ridiculous. Laughable. The information gathering was for the purpose of compiling the file, and the purpose of the file was, according to a text from MB to MHG, to get LK “banned for life”.

It’s up to USEF to determine the repercussions of that file submission. It’s not up to LK, JK, or anyone else. If I were MHG, I would regret having sent it.

So you are “permitted” to speculate away on far-flung scenarios that you deem to be true - but God forbid anyone else offers up an idea or any scenario other than one that you have presented and approved of…

You don’t know because you weren’t there - you said that yourself - and yet you have no issues with presenting possibilities and probabilities as if they were fact. God forbid anyone else expresses a possibility or a thought you do not condone.

You also know for a fact that Eggbutt has been posting actual inside info with full support from MB’s associates… how so? There is not a conspiracy behind everything - which seems to be something LK tends to believe.

@CurrentlyHorseless

The hypocrisy in the continued mantra that LK is fair game for any allegation and insult, while the role of MHG may not be discussed, is breathtaking.

What is breathtaking is the spin you desperately try to put on things …and the blatant hypocrisy. No one said MHG cannot be discussed - it is just that currently you seem to be rather… obsessed with her (and all of MB’s relationships) and trying very hard to incriminate her via a series of tales including jealousy “of a rich dilettante”.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Ridiculous. Laughable. The information gathering was for the purpose of compiling the file, and the purpose of the file was, according to a text from MB to MHG, to get LK “banned for life”.

If LK’s actions warranted USEF or any other organization to look into her - it is not ridiculous or laughable. Someone texting and wishing for “banned for life” in the middle of this extremely stressful situation is overwrought hyperbole… but no - it must be held up as a heinous act - which is a masterful example of airs above the ground while trying so hard to ignore and excuse all the nonsense that LK has done and said for many years… and is continuing to do on SM…

You even thought I was too stupid to see how you plagiarized and edited @FitzE 's post… and had to help me “understand” what you thought I obviously missed.

You cannot read the room. Not at all.

More deja vu.

This post is not sarcasm - seeing as you will airily dismiss all of it as such. I have not gone all Tony Stark for a change…

[ekat]

@jvanrens

I wonder who is going to look bad if it’s used?

I have a feeling that is what’s at play here. I don’t think there’s any audio about a murder plot or anything. I think even if all they recorded is nonsense, the fact that surreptitious audio that may or may not have been legal (my gut says it wasn’t) exists only makes LK and her servant look worse. Because, who plants hidden recorders on someone else’s property instead of just moving?

[cheval_convert]

In thinking about this I think she did not understand that there is more than one possible response to the kind of pressure she was used to exerting. We have flight, fight, or freeze. (I know that is not considered a response but I have seen it happen, so I included it.) In the past, when she “broke” her victims, they either fled or froze. When she broke MB, it seems he went to “fight”. She put him in that position and then claims victimhood with the result. She had had an internal conversation about how she believed things would go - unfortunately for her, she didn’t let MB in on that internal conversation.

[Angela_Freda]

I’d love to pool donations from coth’ers or identify our donations as such, ie Coth supporters of MB.

[eggbutt]

I wonder if @Seeker1 has tried to involve this 40 year old daughter in anything productive, like helping in soup kitchens? I’m sure there are hundreds, if not thousands, of hungry, homeless people in FL who could use the help. It’s quite obvious LK has escaped from her keepers and seems to be more delusional than before. She’s actually contradicting herself in the same post now.

Maybe the “laying of hands” can cure the family shame. In days gone by this family would have been austrocized from the village, if not tarred and feathered first.

Question - are YouTube comments subject to user edits days, months, years later? Of so, thanks to those taking screenshots in real time!

[MorganSercu]

You can edit your donor name from “Anonymous” to your COTH user name.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@FitzE

My husband is a partner at a major global firm [sadly, not blue chip ]. When I was telling him about this case and the civil case, he just shook his head.

He said, every time someone tells him they want to sue someone else, he always says the same thing: I’m not saying you shouldn’t if you really have a case, but I am telling you to think very, very carefully before you start down this road. What is going to be revealed about you cannot be undone. You must be prepared for all your skeletons to come rushing out of their closets and all your dirty laundry to hang in the breeze.

LK started her civil suit well before the criminal trial had even begun. MB’s suit against the police alone provided copious details of her personal life. And that’s as nothing compared to what’s going to come out. She has also threatened suits for years, so she must be well prepared to be in this spotlight.

That is why people are discussing it. She did so knowingly and, if not, then her top 5 global blue chip law firm lawyers aren’t worth their uber eats per diem for overtime meals. She should have gone into this fully aware that everything she could possibly imagine was coming out, would be a matter of public record, and would be discussed in connection to the case. Her father at the very least should have told her this. And, as pointed out above, she has overshared for years so she also put a lot of material out there prior to any of this.

MHG did none of those things. She was not involved in the criminal case (except as an exemplary witness) nor is she a party to any of the civil suits. She spent the last 2.5 years standing pat about the whole situation, not a single word on SM, the approach taken by all of MB’s associates. That is why ‘simply’ replacing ‘MHG’ with ‘LK and MHG’ [the smell of pants on fire must be overwhelming somewhere out there] in my post was not only nonsensical (and dishonest, manipulative, and creepy), it showed a fundamental lack of understanding about the situation each of the parties is in with respect to the various actions.

LK was being bashed on this forum while still in the hospital and in a coma, months before the civil suit was filed. To suggest that the filing of her civil suit is the reason people are discussing her dirty laundry is ridiculous. Eggbutt has said many times, honestly, that she hates LK and wants to “warn” others about her, hence it is her mission to repeat every negative allegation she can work up. Some of the allegations seem to be true, others not so much.

Despite some extremely fanciful “speculation” to the effect that LK masterminded the whole shooting, deliberately goading MB into shooting and injuring her so she could sue and “take his farm”, LK did not ask to be shot and did not ask to be the center of attention in this spectacle. Neither did MB, RC, MHG or any of them.

MHG was not involved in the criminal case, except as a witness. LK was not involved in the criminal case, except as the victim, and as a witness. The criminal case was the state of NJ vs MB.

MHG, along with LK, was involved in the interpersonal conflict that led to the shooting and the criminal case, however. That is why she is being discussed here.

In the trial, the testimony revealed a strong mutual dislike between MHG and LK. Why did MHG dislike LK? I don’t know since I wasn’t there, but possibilities are: LK was taking up MBs time and attention, MHG considered LK a rich dilettante, whatever. Why did LK dislike MHG? Possibilities are: MHG disliked her and was pressuring MB to get her kicked out, she perceived MHG looked down on her and faulted her for missing lessons, whatever.

In the interpersonal relationship between two people, it’s almost always the case that same general emotion is reflected back and forth: friendship, hate, indifference, whatever. I suppose one party could feel friendship toward the other, and have the feeling returned with indifference, but generally when it comes to strong dislike and hate, it’s a two way street. It’s not a mystery as to why LK disliked MHG; she knew she was disliked by MHG.

MBs associates have not talked about the case publicly under their own names. But I’m convinced that Eggbutt has been posting all along with inside information from at least one of Barisone’s close associates. So Barisone’s associates refrained from stooping to throwing mud, and worse, under their own names, but nevertheless got the mud thrown on a daily basis by Eggbutt and cohorts.

The hypocrisy in the continued mantra that LK is fair game for any allegation and insult, while the role of MHG may not be discussed, is breathtaking.

No one, to my knowledge, is taking any active steps to limit MHGs future in the sport. I have pointed out the obvious — that MHG participated with MB in compiling a 750+ page file on LK and sent it to USEF on the day before MB shot her. I don’t believe for a minute that the PI report or the “reaching out” to GJ, HB, and other SM enemies (EB says she was not contacted) was for information on “how other people had gotten her out.” Ridiculous. Laughable. The information gathering was for the purpose of compiling the file, and the purpose of the file was, according to a text from MB to MHG, to get LK “banned for life”.

It’s up to USEF to determine the repercussions of that file submission. It’s not up to LK, JK, or anyone else. If I were MHG, I would regret having sent it.

All I can say to you is three words, FINISH THE BASTARD.

[Angela_Freda]

It’s on audio.
Off, we never heard this damning, concrete proof of his guilt during the trial trying to assign him guilt.

[3PonyFarm]

That would be interesting to see how much we could raise. When I made mine, I did it anonymously. I did get an email, is that how people changed the name of the donation?

Also, does anyone have any connections to well known horse people who might be sympathetic to the cause? If so maybe they could invite them to post a funny horse story or words of support during the fund drive. It would be cool to see who would be willing to post (and brave enough) and help further the cause.

[FitzE]

@smoofox

What is breathtaking is the spin you desperately try to put on things …and the blatant hypocrisy.

What’s TRULY breathtaking is CH’s bald-faced lying and utter lack of shame when being caught red handed.

[Angela_Freda]

“our audios prove otherwise”?
If they did, we would have heard them, or is Schellehorn a dufus?

[3PonyFarm]

Maybe we could name the drive “Finance the B*****” but come up with a funny replacement for B*****

[SillyHorse]

@FitzE

Astonishing not only her ability and willingness to lie like a cheap rug, but her apparent congenital lack of any sense of shame whatsoever when exposed.

I’m confused. Who are we talking about, CH or LK? Because this hits the nail on the had for both of them.

[hut-ho78]

@MHM

@FitzE

Nope.

Really, that one word answer is probably the best response to such nonsense going forward. Quick and concise.

LOL! If only.

[FitzE]

Touché! It is hard to tell without a specific reference. I guess there’s a whole, “Who does that?!” tribe out there!