Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

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@Knights_Mom

@Ghazzu

@DownYonder

What a f****** idiot to think that MB was going to use a shovel to bury two bodies (three bodies, including Rosie). It would have taken him hours and hours and hours to do it. And on a farm that probably had a backhoe.

Even without a backhoe, I bet they have a tractor with a FEL, and composting is an approved way to dispose of bodies.

Yes but the shovel in the truck is much more fun to say and speculate on in order to garner support and compassion.

That’s the bait.

Of course it makes sense a highly successful Olympian made a decision in the middle of the day to murder two terrorists and their attack dog and then bury them on his property using a shovel! Uh-huh. This woman implied at one point there were “bodies buried all over HHF”. Next she’ll probably change her story indicating Barisone was going to barbecue them and host a pig-picking and auction/raffle all her horses!

There is no limit to this woman’s vivid imagination. It is apparent she feeds these fiction fantasies to her gullible mother who then confuses fact from fiction. Daddy is there to throw enough money at her to keep her at an acceptable distance. Boyfriend (?) hangs around because, why not? It is said he still disappears for days at a time enjoying freedom until his limited funds dry up and it’s easier to go back to being kept than finding meaningful work. He is, after all, the Kanarek muscle USMC hero housekeeper and babysitter.

I hope Lauren continues her unchallenged rants and diatribes on the YouTube trial comments…it helps to add to the already abundant documentation for the civil trials as well as continue to prove what so many others already know.

Rant over…I’m taking a break from this insanity for a bit until I become bored…flounce off.

Why would any of it “make sense”? He was insane, delusional. That’s what we waited 2.5 years to find out.

[Knights_Mom]

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@Angela_Freda

@Maria

Even though we heard Barisone & co (on audio) literally calling Ruth Cox to drive from NC to NJ and bring the gun and saying “let Ruth do it! She’s old and has nothing to lose, let HER do it,” we (as normal people) never dreamed that could actually be the real plan. No one ever thinks a person is actually going to try and shoot them to death. Bilinkas states “I have over 70 audios! 70!” Yet, he plays 0 of them. He even scolded me for trying to repeat what we heard in the audios! We do plan to send each transcribed audio to the state psych ward. Mb was in no way “afraid,” or at any time “crying in a fetal position.” The only reason 4 people weren’t charged with “conspiracy to commit to murder,” is bc, a large degree of specificity is needed for that. I.e “we will plan to kill them at 2pm on weds using Dr. Cox’s gun.” The entire reason Cox testified for the state was bc she was facing a 4th degree felony for giving mb her gun just 3 days prior to

If the “plan” was to get RC to do it, why have her give MB the gun?
If the plot to kill LK was for RC to do it, why put the gun in the safe which RC did not have access to?
If the plot, that LK was well aware of, was for RC, at the behest of MB, MHG and whomever else… , to act out this “plot”, why all the nonsense from LK about the gun being missing?

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RC did testify that her original plan was to come to the farm the following weekend, and that in response to conversations with MHG, drove up the weekend of the 2nd.

I’ve never understood the idea of routinely traveling with a gun on a car trip. It is utterly foreign to me. And I live in Chicago.

So that’s YOU.

This country is full of people who travel armed. Heck full grown men find it necessary to go to Walmart armed to the teeth.

You trying to distort an older woman traveling alone, probably at night, into something nefarious in order to push your ridiculous agenda and fake story of lies is disgusting.

What have I “distorted”, what is my ridiculous agenda and fake story, and what are my lies, @Knights_Mom?

I stated that I have never understood the idea of traveling with a gun. I’m a woman, although not older.

I pointed out that the testimony in the trial indicated that in response to conversations with MHG, RC moved up her travel plans by a week. If the recorded conversation explicitly mentioned RCs gun, as opposed to her bringing it purely out of habit with no mention of it beforehand, yeah, that does sound “concerning” to me. Nefarious is a word you’ve thrown in, not me.

I’m not the one who lies, @Knights_Mom.

Keep talking bro. My point and opinion, stands.

I’m not the one who lies, @Knights_Mom.

I would never stoop to threatening to sue you, though

I do not lie on social media like the person you support does. And in parroting her claims that makes your word just as questionable.

RC moving up her plans means she was concerned, nothing more. It’s a trait of LK to present things to seem devious when it fact they are not. Emulating her is not wise.

As for your statement as to the contents:
If you claim you heard it, I do not believe you.
If you claim someone else heard it and told you, I believe neither of you.

Defending someone who testified that they lie on social media means you condone that and so you will lie too.

My opinion.

[MorganSercu]

At this point I travel with SabreRed and a dog bred to hunt moose and bear. Not as big or easily trainable as a GSD due to the higher percentage of wolf DNA found in dogs of that type, but very, very clever (not as smart as a wolf though) and focused on protecting the family.

Less likely for someone to wrest a gun from my hands. Plus I can have the SabreRed attached to my wrist.

[MHM]

Nope.

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@Knights_Mom

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@Angela_Freda

@Maria

Even though we heard Barisone & co (on audio) literally calling Ruth Cox to drive from NC to NJ and bring the gun and saying “let Ruth do it! She’s old and has nothing to lose, let HER do it,” we (as normal people) never dreamed that could actually be the real plan. No one ever thinks a person is actually going to try and shoot them to death. Bilinkas states “I have over 70 audios! 70!” Yet, he plays 0 of them. He even scolded me for trying to repeat what we heard in the audios! We do plan to send each transcribed audio to the state psych ward. Mb was in no way “afraid,” or at any time “crying in a fetal position.” The only reason 4 people weren’t charged with “conspiracy to commit to murder,” is bc, a large degree of specificity is needed for that. I.e “we will plan to kill them at 2pm on weds using Dr. Cox’s gun.” The entire reason Cox testified for the state was bc she was facing a 4th degree felony for giving mb her gun just 3 days prior to

If the “plan” was to get RC to do it, why have her give MB the gun?
If the plot to kill LK was for RC to do it, why put the gun in the safe which RC did not have access to?
If the plot, that LK was well aware of, was for RC, at the behest of MB, MHG and whomever else… , to act out this “plot”, why all the nonsense from LK about the gun being missing?

.

RC did testify that her original plan was to come to the farm the following weekend, and that in response to conversations with MHG, drove up the weekend of the 2nd.

I’ve never understood the idea of routinely traveling with a gun on a car trip. It is utterly foreign to me. And I live in Chicago.

So that’s YOU.

This country is full of people who travel armed. Heck full grown men find it necessary to go to Walmart armed to the teeth.

You trying to distort an older woman traveling alone, probably at night, into something nefarious in order to push your ridiculous agenda and fake story of lies is disgusting.

What have I “distorted”, what is my ridiculous agenda and fake story, and what are my lies, @Knights_Mom?

I stated that I have never understood the idea of traveling with a gun. I’m a woman, although not older.

I pointed out that the testimony in the trial indicated that in response to conversations with MHG, RC moved up her travel plans by a week. If the recorded conversation explicitly mentioned RCs gun, as opposed to her bringing it purely out of habit with no mention of it beforehand, yeah, that does sound “concerning” to me. Nefarious is a word you’ve thrown in, not me.

I’m not the one who lies, @Knights_Mom.

Keep talking bro. My point and opinion, stands.

I’m not the one who lies, @Knights_Mom.

I would never stoop to threatening to sue you, though

I do not lie on social media like the person you support does. And in parroting her claims that makes your word just as questionable.

RC moving up her plans means she was concerned, nothing more. It’s a trait of LK to present things to seem devious when it fact they are not. Emulating her is not wise.

As for your statement as to the contents:
If you claim you heard it, I do not believe you.
If you claim someone else heard it and told you, I believe neither of you.

Defending someone who testified that they lie on social media means you condone that and so you will lie too.

My opinion.

I am not “parroting” anyone’s claims.

If I happen to have some of the same opinions or interpretations that LK does, the fact that she lies does not logically mean that I do.

I’m not the one who lies. I don’t appreciate your attempt to invalidate the opinion of someone who disagrees with you by baselessly calling me a liar.

I agree that RC traveling with the gun has an innocent and a not so innocent interpretation. Given she was shot with said gun and nearly died, I’m not going to fault LK for choosing the “nefarious/devious” interpretation (to use your words). You, of course, will fault LK for assuming the worst of the woman who illegally transported the gun used to shoot her. It’s what you do.

Re bolded: are you serious?

I don’t condone lying on SM or in real life.
I don’t lie.

[Knights_Mom]

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@Angela_Freda

@Maria

Even though we heard Barisone & co (on audio) literally calling Ruth Cox to drive from NC to NJ and bring the gun and saying “let Ruth do it! She’s old and has nothing to lose, let HER do it,” we (as normal people) never dreamed that could actually be the real plan. No one ever thinks a person is actually going to try and shoot them to death. Bilinkas states “I have over 70 audios! 70!” Yet, he plays 0 of them. He even scolded me for trying to repeat what we heard in the audios! We do plan to send each transcribed audio to the state psych ward. Mb was in no way “afraid,” or at any time “crying in a fetal position.” The only reason 4 people weren’t charged with “conspiracy to commit to murder,” is bc, a large degree of specificity is needed for that. I.e “we will plan to kill them at 2pm on weds using Dr. Cox’s gun.” The entire reason Cox testified for the state was bc she was facing a 4th degree felony for giving mb her gun just 3 days prior to

If the “plan” was to get RC to do it, why have her give MB the gun?
If the plot to kill LK was for RC to do it, why put the gun in the safe which RC did not have access to?
If the plot, that LK was well aware of, was for RC, at the behest of MB, MHG and whomever else… , to act out this “plot”, why all the nonsense from LK about the gun being missing?

.

RC did testify that her original plan was to come to the farm the following weekend, and that in response to conversations with MHG, drove up the weekend of the 2nd.

I’ve never understood the idea of routinely traveling with a gun on a car trip. It is utterly foreign to me. And I live in Chicago.

So that’s YOU.

This country is full of people who travel armed. Heck full grown men find it necessary to go to Walmart armed to the teeth.

You trying to distort an older woman traveling alone, probably at night, into something nefarious in order to push your ridiculous agenda and fake story of lies is disgusting.

What have I “distorted”, what is my ridiculous agenda and fake story, and what are my lies, @Knights_Mom?

I stated that I have never understood the idea of traveling with a gun. I’m a woman, although not older.

I pointed out that the testimony in the trial indicated that in response to conversations with MHG, RC moved up her travel plans by a week. If the recorded conversation explicitly mentioned RCs gun, as opposed to her bringing it purely out of habit with no mention of it beforehand, yeah, that does sound “concerning” to me. Nefarious is a word you’ve thrown in, not me.

I’m not the one who lies, @Knights_Mom.

Keep talking bro. My point and opinion, stands.

I’m not the one who lies, @Knights_Mom.

I would never stoop to threatening to sue you, though

I do not lie on social media like the person you support does. And in parroting her claims that makes your word just as questionable.

RC moving up her plans means she was concerned, nothing more. It’s a trait of LK to present things to seem devious when it fact they are not. Emulating her is not wise.

As for your statement as to the contents:
If you claim you heard it, I do not believe you.
If you claim someone else heard it and told you, I believe neither of you.

Defending someone who testified that they lie on social media means you condone that and so you will lie too.

My opinion.

I am not “parroting” anyone’s claims.

If I happen to have some of the same opinions or interpretations that LK does, the fact that she lies does not logically mean that I do.

I’m not the one who lies. I don’t appreciate your attempt to invalidate the opinion of someone who disagrees with you by baselessly calling me a liar.

I agree that RC traveling with the gun has an innocent and a not so innocent interpretation. Given she was shot with said gun and nearly died, I’m not going to fault LK for choosing the “nefarious/devious” interpretation (to use your words). You, of course, will fault LK for assuming the worst of the woman who illegally transported the gun used to shoot her. It’s what you do.

Re bolded: are you serious?

I don’t condone lying on SM or in real life.
I don’t lie.

I’m dead serious. My opinion stands.

[DownYonder]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I agree that RC traveling with the gun has an innocent and a not so innocent interpretation.

So does MB taking a gun to the farmhouse on his own property when he knew his tormentors were 1) planning to “destroy him” and 2) had a vicious dog with a bite record.

And since they beat him so severely he has no memory of the event, he could not testify to support a self-defense angle - which is why Taylor would not allow that defense. (And of course, there is the mysteriously missing video from the porch camera, which would also have supported self-defense.)

[Dragonfly90]

“ I stated that I have never understood the idea of traveling with a gun.”
Especially to a state where if you do you can face charges for unlawful possession of a weapon. If someone asked Ruth to bring the gun they certainly were not her friend(s) by asking her to commit a extremely serious offenses that could have resulted in a prison sentence for her. Not saying anyone did, IDK.

[Knights_Mom]

@Dragonfly90

“ I stated that I have never understood the idea of traveling with a gun.”
Especially to a state where if you do you can face charges for unlawful possession of a weapon. If someone asked Ruth to bring the gun they certainly were not her friend(s) by asking her to commit a extremely serious offenses that could have resulted in a prison sentence for her. Not saying anyone did, IDK.

Testimony indicates that RC always or almost always travelled with a gun.

Nothing nefarious here either.

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@BrendaJane

I’d be worried if there were endangered plants on the truck next to the shovel…

I wonder what might have been in the vehicles belonging to RG. If only a police officer had thought to secure and look at the whole scene. Maybe he had a shovel or other tools too.

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@CurrentlyHorseless

I agree that RC traveling with the gun has an innocent and a not so innocent interpretation.

So does MB taking a gun to the farmhouse on his own property when he knew his tormentors were 1) planning to “destroy him” and 2) had a vicious dog with a bite record.

And since they beat him so severely he has no memory of the event, he could not testify to support a self-defense angle - which is why Taylor would not allow that defense. (And of course, there is the mysteriously missing video from the porch camera, which would also have supported self-defense.)

I’ve stated before that by his obtaining the gun and driving over there with the gun and initiating the confrontation, to the extent all that was established for the jury, which it was, he can’t claim self defense when RG then tackled and choked him. In the absence of all that evidence that he went into their physical presence with a deadly weapon, Blinikas could have woven one of your tales of reasonable doubt due to maybe RG tackling him before the shots, despite the amnesia. I believe RG tackled him after he shot LK, as LK and ED testified. But even if RG had tackled him first, my non lawyer opinion is that it’s not* considered self defense given that he brought the gun and “started it”.

Was it testified that he had a concussion?

What do you think RG should have done other than subduing him by force (non lethal force)? Stand there while he reloaded?

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@Knights_Mom

@Dragonfly90

“ I stated that I have never understood the idea of traveling with a gun.”
Especially to a state where if you do you can face charges for unlawful possession of a weapon. If someone asked Ruth to bring the gun they certainly were not her friend(s) by asking her to commit a extremely serious offenses that could have resulted in a prison sentence for her. Not saying anyone did, IDK.

Testimony indicates that RC always or almost always travelled with a gun.

Nothing nefarious here either.

Criminal, but not nefarious?

LK knew better than to travel to NJ with a gun.

[trubandloki]

@ekat

I wonder what might have been in the vehicles belonging to RG. If only a police officer had thought to secure and look at the whole scene. Maybe he had a shovel or other tools too.

How many farm trucks don’t have random tools? Laugh.

I do agree that it would have been very informative if the police had done their job.

[DownYonder]

@CurrentlyHorseless

LK knew better than to travel to NJ with a gun.

So she says - the person who says whatever she needs to say to support her narrative of the moment. And admits she lies, lies, lies - but hey, it’s no big deal, right?

[Graymaresrule]

Maybe she knew better but that doesn’t mean she didn’t have a gun. She is known to lie

[Knights_Mom]

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@DownYonder

@CurrentlyHorseless

I agree that RC traveling with the gun has an innocent and a not so innocent interpretation.

So does MB taking a gun to the farmhouse on his own property when he knew his tormentors were 1) planning to “destroy him” and 2) had a vicious dog with a bite record.

And since they beat him so severely he has no memory of the event, he could not testify to support a self-defense angle - which is why Taylor would not allow that defense. (And of course, there is the mysteriously missing video from the porch camera, which would also have supported self-defense.)

I’ve stated before that by his obtaining the gun and driving over there with the gun and initiating the confrontation, to the extent all that was established for the jury, which it was, he can’t claim self defense when RG then tackled and choked him. In the absence of all that evidence that he went into their physical presence with a deadly weapon, Blinikas could have woven one of your tales of reasonable doubt due to maybe RG tackling him before the shots, despite the amnesia. I believe RG tackled him after he shot LK, as LK and ED testified. But even if RG had tackled him first, my non lawyer opinion is that it’s not* considered self defense given that he brought the gun and “started it”.

Was it testified that he had a concussion?

What do you think RG should have done other than subduing him by force (non lethal force)? Stand there while he reloaded?

As far as MB may have known nobody was in the home being they were kicked out by the inspector the day before. MB would have no knowledge of the very unusual circumstance of late night emails with an agency now would he?

[EmilyM]

Help me out!
I’m about 600 posts behind since I just packed up my Florida farm and migrated back north.
Where should I start reading that I don’t have to experience the groundhog’s day back and forth among CH and everyone else. Is there any New info on this thread?
Thanks!!

[Knights_Mom]

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@Knights_Mom

@Dragonfly90

“ I stated that I have never understood the idea of traveling with a gun.”
Especially to a state where if you do you can face charges for unlawful possession of a weapon. If someone asked Ruth to bring the gun they certainly were not her friend(s) by asking her to commit a extremely serious offenses that could have resulted in a prison sentence for her. Not saying anyone did, IDK.

Testimony indicates that RC always or almost always travelled with a gun.

Nothing nefarious here either.

Criminal, but not nefarious?

LK knew better than to travel to NJ with a gun.

She had prior arrests. It would have been problematic. Besides I don’t know that she DID NOT have a gun being she posted SHE DID.

And no I’m not talking about the NC gun(s).

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@Graymaresrule

Maybe she knew better but that doesn’t mean she didn’t have a gun. She is known to lie

LK knew the gun laws in NJ were very strict. There is zero indication she brought a gun to NJ. She said she did not bring a gun to NJ.

RC did bring a gun to NJ, and admitted under oath that she brought it and handed it to MB, who then used it to shoot and nearly kill someone.

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@EmilyM

Help me out!
I’m about 600 posts behind since I just packed up my Florida farm and migrated back north.
Where should I start reading that I don’t have to experience the groundhog’s day back and forth among CH and everyone else. Is there any New info on this thread?
Thanks!!

Oh, that would take all the fun out of it.
I would note were you were (post number) and then skip to the end if you have limited time now. When you have more time go back and read the posts you missed.