Would SGF acknowledging a debt of $x,xxx to RG make LK more likely to settle readily for a moderate sum and drop them from her lawsuit?
What a stupid statement. Sorry, but it is. You should know better.
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No problem, but as I stated, I was not the one to bring politics into this and I asked the person who originally posted the comment to NOT do so…I would address your concern to the originator of the post if you haven’t already. That being said, I am moving on from this topic. Thank you.
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I was thinking that reaching an out of court settlement was the legal way to “buy their way out of a liability for injury”.
Add to that the fact that he isn’t a licensed contractor.
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If people were placing hidden recorders (RG testified he did that), eavesdropping and broadcasting my private conversations on the internet, no. I don’t offer them money or respect.
The first time I had to 911 on them, in my state, I could have filed an eviction notice the next day. Eviction would have happened within a week, two tops. Animal Control would have seized the horses if I chose not to file a lien on them.
The only cooperation I would have wanted out of them would have been them cooperating with the constable as they’re escorted off my property once I had my writ of restitution.
So no, I guess I don’t practice that in my daily life.
I give respect where it’s due.
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I have no idea why your earlier reply to me disappeared… except as part of bigger quotes discussion.
But given that RG’s name appears NOWHERE in any of the civil litigation documents, and all the testimony that was presented at court, most especially RG’s testimony that he only did enough work to offset LK’s board expenses… and Mike McGrain’s testimony that it was actually Mike who performed 70-80% of the work related to the tiling in the farmhouse… and it was Mike who took the lead on the performance of that job, because Mike had far more experience and skill with renovations than RG (Mike worked with his father for years, and his father does high end home renovations)…
Why again should SGF pay RG money?
It seems the only evidence you have of this whole idea is a claim made by IM on these forums that SGF admitted in writing already that they owed RG money.
Huh.
How do you square IM’s claim with RG’s testimony at trial that he consciously decided NOT to perform extra renovation work that summer?
It seems like IM might not be honest with his claims on these forums. But … @Inigo-montoya is always welcome to hop in here, right now, and back up/clarify that claim himself.
Also… why would SGF have admitted anything about RG as part of the ongoing litigation? Is the civil attorney in that matter who is representing Lauren Kanarek (Bruce Nagel) also actually representing RG?
Huh. That would be interesting. If so, I guess it’s an indication of improved family relations, and a step forward for JK and RG… given that JK was unwilling to pay Ed David to represent RG in the earlier landlord tenant disputes in August 2019. That’s on the record during the trial, as part of ED’s testimony (he said he ONLY represented LK), and it seems like it was a bit of a legal error on JK’s part, because RG then sat in on a meeting involving LK, JK and Ed David… and recorded it. I think RG testified that meeting happened on 08/05 or 08/06. Anyway… it’s pretty obvious that by allowing an unrepresented party (RG) to sit in on that meeting involving the Kanareks and their real estate attorney, that destroyed any privilege concerning what was discussed during that meeting.
So I guess it would make sense for JK to pay for Nagel to represent RG now. JK wouldn’t want to make the same legal mistake twice, and have more issues involving loss of attorney client privilege related to LK’s discussions with attorneys, if RG was to tag along for more of these discussions and meetings as the civil litigation moves forward.
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Maybe they meet up for lunch a few days a week. 
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I’m sorry, but for someone who’s spent literally hundreds of posts explaining, excusing, and otherwise twisting the narrative about her behavior, do you think there is any possibility that someone like LK will accept a settlement (and probable terms of confidentiality) versus taking her chances with a judge or jury “to reveal all truths?”
there’s no way based on all the available evidence that she’d ever entertain a settlement from anyone. After all she’s made it clear that she’s self funded with what she believes is HER money. She doesn’t need theirs. It’s about making a point.
proof positive: the declarations all day today that the verdict simply is not what it actually, legally, is and calling it a victory.
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Someone said upthread it was proven LK caused MB to be in the position he is in. That is not correct. The state proved that MB shot her twice and the defense said he was not criminally liable because he was insane.
The judge would not allow pictures of her after surgery, just the bullet holes, which to me is outrageous. Said it was prejudicial.
It was the defense lawyer strategy to push that she caused him to be insane and present him as her victim instead of the other way around.
I have a friend who was killed by a serial killer. He could have been stopped earlier but he cleaned up very well for court. At one point he abducted two young women and abused them for hours. They were able to escape, terrified. When it went to trial, they put a lot of old biddies on the jury and his defense attorney said they were wicked women, had a threesome, and were trying to ruin this nice good looking young man, just look at him, he would never have to rape anyone. He had those old biddies believing these terrified survivors were the wh—s of Babylon. They proved he killed two women finally. My friend was found in a field next to one of those women. No forensics. Six weeks. He waited on her at Builder’s Square. There is a podcast on him and he was on a television show once. I was told by another friend that he is suspected of at least 10 more. His crimes started at age 16 that anyone knows of. His home state made it easier to try minors as adults because of his heinous crimes. He didn’t keep it to his home state. He was 41 when he went to prison and is now serving two consecutive life sentences which is 30 years twice here. I hope he stays in prison where he can’t hurt anyone else.
I think the verdict is one that can lead to the best outcome for all parties. I don’t believe LK caused MB’s mental problems. That started long ago. I do think they both were vulnerable to each other’s emotions and mental status to each other’s detriment.
Eight concussions is about 6-7 too many and the effects can show at a later time. It happens to football players and combat veterans and others.
She did not shoot him. Her shot her, twice.
Civil court is where personal disputes should play out. It is a way of legally resolving disputes.
I get everyone wanting to hang everything on LK. It’s human nature. It makes people feel safer. It doesn’t make it so.
I don’t know what all will come out of this. MB was carrying a big load. He had two barns in two states. He lost his barn manager, business partner, his wife, the one who made it possible for him to do the things he loves (his words), his living conditions were not good, he had to pay his ex-wife $965,000 and I can’t find if that includes 3 horses or not.
He was carrying his own horses, 2 horses of LK’s that summer, 8-9 horses belonging to MH, he was trying to handle everything himself. His relationship with MH was not working out well.
For those of you who say you personally know LK and trash talk her and tell everyone what she is capable of, you never shot her. He did.
I guess some people will double down now but I hope at least some reading this will think a little more deeply about this.
If they go forward with the civil trial there may or may not be an oh I understand moment for onlookers and it may not be what any of us suspect. Or, we may never know all the emotions and stressors on everyone.
I truly hope they both go forward with their lives and enjoy their lives. I hope they both have the help and support they need. I worry either one could commit suicide and I’ve lost close ones to that too. It is horrific. Try to be a little kinder.
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Call the police.
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But why would it? How does giving RG compensate LK for her alleged losses? The whole point of the suit is to “make the plaintiff whole.” RG isn’t the plaintiff.
Let’s say, hypothetically, my dog bites you, you need a ton of stitches and are out of work for 3 months, and need mental and physical therapy. (My dogs are 12 and 11 and have never bitten anyone, just have to throw that out there). But, we’re hanging out at MHM’s property. You sue me and MHM for damages. Meanwhile, your significant other is shoveling manure for MHM. And your SO thinks MHM hasn’t paid appropriate.
How would MHM giving your SO money help make you whole and compensate for your losses?
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Thinking back on it, that was really a somewhat remarkable bit of testimony.
I believe he ended up admitting that nobody owed him any money, that LK would not let him submit a bill for his supposed work because she had a bigger plan, and that he contacted the building inspector for spite, not for any other reason. Wow.
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Read for comprehension. I meant she was on the street. But hey, project all you want. 
The Kanareks are clearly all about using the civil litigation process to further punish everyone involved in this case, and to force other parties to pay extensive legal fees to defend themselves.
It’s a scorched earth move.
I have no idea what MBs current finances are, after going through the criminal trial, or how long he can afford to fight them. But in my opinion, the goal of the Kanareks is not actually about getting any money from him. It’s about bankrupting him, and continuing the harassment and mental and emotional stress.
I think the only way MB will be free of these people is if he actually can mentally, emotionally and financially survive going all the way through the civil litigation process with them. And then be DONE. He and LK can have their mutual orders of protection, and everyone can live happily ever after in good old Loxahatchee then. (sarcasm about that last part).
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Maybe IM lied. Maybe LK told IM that and she lied. Just can’t trust a thing they say.
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Do you know what “zero sum thinking” means? Gaining from someone else’s loss - and you believe LK doesn’t have this view point? What trial did you watch? Ffs.
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Ha, I misread this as “…like the rest of us go through a roll of toilet paper.”
Which might even be more appropriate. 
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I wouldn’t pay a dime.
I don’t like to be extorted.
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That’s like 30 min away from my house, I had no idea!
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