Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Seeker1]

Lauren was in way over her head. She had a horse that Michael told her to bring over from Europe shortly before this happened in addition to the one she bought from him and the 2 or 3 she already had… She did not know what to do to move all of those animals. No one on this forum wants to put their horses just anywhere. It is NOT EASY and you all know that.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

Nope, that is NOT what the court found to be true

[Seeker1]

YES it is Rhythm… they found that he tried to kill Lauren but he was not criminally charged because he was deemed insane.

[trubandloki]

@Knights_Mom

Let Ruth Do It.

I keep thinking about this line. Who got bit when going in for the inspectors?

I wonder how the “Let Ruth Do It” recording relates to the whole time line of inspectors making someone else go into the house to post whatever had to be posted?

@Warmblood1

I really appreciate you quoting certain posts and keeping things honest.

Thank you!
I just figure that this family has a history of removing/editing and then insisting that was never said. Might as well just quote them all.
Bonus that it makes it easy to go back and find a comment when you (me) want to reference it.

@Seeker1

michael is the hornets nest and has been for years. Some of his ex students/workers told me they were bullied, manipulated, threatened, etc by him on numerous occasions. Someone told me that they felt bad for Lauren and wish she had warned us. She said that she herself felt lucky to get out of there alive. Lauren has her faults… but Michael TRIED TO KILL SOMEONE WITH A DEADLY WEAPON!!!

@Seeker1

Everyone pays the price for bad behavior.

@Warmblood1

“I’m afraid of a 6’3 man that is threatening me”

But I refused to leave.

“MB was crazy before I ever stepped into the picture”

But I refused to leave.

“MB’s interpersonal relationships indicate poor character”

But I refused to leave.

“I have proof of my murder plot via recordings”

But I refused to leave.

Yea, good luck with that in the civil trial.

Great post @Warmblood1.
I think you need to add - And I paid to be the center of his world. Because isn’t that what we were told here by her mother?

@Seeker1

MICHAEL BARISONE TRIED TO KILL TWO PEOPLE WITH A DEADLY WEAPON. Posting stupid crap on social media can be bad… but not even close to putting someone in a hospital coding twice using a gun.

@Seeker1

Lauren was in way over her head. She had a horse that Michael told her to bring over from Europe shortly before this happened in addition to the one she bought from him and the 2 or 3 she already had… She did not know what to do to move all of those animals. No one on this forum wants to put their horses just anywhere. It is NOT EASY and you all know that.

@Seeker1

YES it is Rhythm… they found that he tried to kill Lauren but he was not criminally charged because he was deemed insane.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

“MICHAEL BARISONE TRIED TO KILL TWO PEOPLE WITH A DEADLY WEAPON”

The court found no truth to the charges for RG so that’s only 1 person

[Seeker1]

That is why he is sitting in Ann Klein institution without a pillow, book, pen, pencil… until they can determine that he will not hurt any of the other guests of the state facility while under their watch… This is maximum security.

[Seeker1]

If he didn’t do someone very very bad he would be at home.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

If he hadn’t met LK & RG he would still be at home

[Knights_Mom]

@Seeker1

michael is the hornets nest and has been for years. Some of his ex students/workers told me they were bullied, manipulated, threatened, etc by him on numerous occasions. Someone told me that they felt bad for Lauren and wish she had warned us. She said that she herself felt lucky to get out of there alive. Lauren has her faults… but Michael TRIED TO KILL SOMEONE WITH A DEADLY WEAPON!!!

Your previous lies of things you “heard” render any statement you say unbelievable.

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

[Sparky]

Please excuse my “yawn”, but you’re very tiring.

[Scribbler]

@Seeker1

Everyone pays the price for bad behavior.

Including you.

I predict that your own bad behavior online will further diminish any chance of LK pursuing a successful civil suit, if indeed that is still in discussion. It will also help countersuits against LK by showing a pattern of behavior. And fodder for the upcoming True Crime podcast called “Who Does That??”

[Seeker1]

ok… according to the court he tried to brutally kill one person… and came very very close to succeeding. I know that another one would have had some bullet holes and possibly two deaths if our heros the police and Rob had not stepped in and held him down. He was OFF THE CHARTS.

[Knights_Mom]

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@CanteringCarrot

I mean, that’s usually why people file a civil suit; to get money. Which isn’t unreasonable at all in many cases.

I’m just not sure what kind of damages or losses can be claimed, exactly, in this case. I can think of a few (not saying whether or not I agree with the claims), but I’m not in the US and only have a vague idea how it goes re civil suits and damages. I believe you can do the whole “loss of income” thing but I don’t know what happens if you have no income from a job? Or if you can’t prove that this financially changed anything for you. I’m not sure how/if they put price tags on emotional trauma and whatnot.

In the US, you can sue for pain and suffering. Medical bills. Rehab bills. Loss of enjoyment because her riding is made more difficult by the scar tissue. She has plenty of basis to sue even without suing for loss of income.

You may not get much depending on the state. Plus her actions in causing the event will come into play. And being the previous jury found he was driven to insanity that doesn’t bode well.

His counterclaim however, with the posts and barefoot veiled ninja and admitting to destroy him will lead to compensation for the damage to his income and reputation.

How much money each party gets is up the the courts. There is no shame in suing for damages after someone has injured you. That’s what civil suits are for.

I agree that the harmful actions of each party will be examined in the legal reckoning.

This will be controversial- prepare yourself:

Just as “Let’s get rid of her”. “Let Ruth do it” can admit a wide range of interpretations, “Finish the bastard” has interpretations other than “I know MB is on the edge of a psychological breakdown, let’s deliberately push him over the edge.”

Texting to MHG ‘I’m going to get her banned from USEF for life’, on the other hand, is less ambiguous.

I think the jury determined he was not legally responsible for shooting her due to his insanity. I do not think they needed to determine the exact breakdown as to her quantitative role on “causing” the insanity, as distinct from his childhood abuse, his CPTSD and the other psychological stressors on him at the time, both financial and personal.

There is no proof of Let Ruth Do It but there is testimony, sworn testimony in front of a jury of Finish The Bastard. There is no proof of Let’s Get Rid Of Her but even if it was said that doesn’t imply murder and nor does Let Ruth Do It.

Of course LK would thinkbit does IF those words were spoken because that makes her seem more important in her mind.

Newsflash: she’s not.

As to what civil trials are for - gee thanks. I guess I dreamed working in civil court for 14 + years ending as the civil motion clerk. I had no idea.

And I have no doubt the jury believed LK caused the mental break just as people do here and even better as evidenced by the public at large as evidenced by both YouTube and Law & Crime commenters.

It has to bother you and your ilk that without fail 95% of the people here and commenting on the internet lay the blame entirely at LKs feet.

Just about everyone knows it. Just about everyone sees it.

Trying to divert attention to Vera or MHG is nothing more than a ruse to get attention and blame off of where it entirely belongs: with LK and everyone knows it.

Everyone knows it. Even you.

Edit to add: maybe LK should be suspended. That’s my vote.

I’m not “trying to divert” attention to MHG. I think MB was horribly stressed by threats that MHG would leave him if he did not “get rid” of LK, while he was reluctant to evict her and lose the income. If MHG was threatening to dump him, I can imagine horrible regret at leaving his wife for MHG.

I most certainly don’t believe 100% of the blame for MBs mental breakdown rests with LK!

Why do you imagine you “have a vote” on whether LK gets suspended? (Suspended from USEF?)

Is that what the ongoing purpose of this thread is? To try to influence the outcome of the MHG/MB complaint to USEF?

You were most certainly trying to distract.

There is no other reason for your continual spewage of Vera and MHG et al.

All you do is try and portray MB as an animal. You exaggerate, lie, belittle and say whatever you need to to keep that narrative.

[ekat]

@Seeker1

according to the court he tried to brutally kill one person

According to the jury’s verdict, he didn’t have the capacity to or the intent to try to kill anything.

[Omgitsme]

But if the tapes contain plotting, especially between three people, this would have been a conspiracy. It’s likely that if the tapes had a murder plot, playing them for the jury would have taken the insanity plea off the table. If three people are plotting a murder either all of them are insane or none of them are.

[Knights_Mom]

@Ghazzu

@Seeker1

michael is the hornets nest and has been for years. Some of his ex students/workers told me they were bullied, manipulated, threatened, etc by him on numerous occasions. Someone told me that they felt bad for Lauren and wish she had warned us. She said that she herself felt lucky to get out of there alive. Lauren has her faults… but Michael TRIED TO KILL SOMEONE WITH A DEADLY WEAPON!!!

This speech pattern sounds like TFG and his “people are saying” tropes.

Again an exaggeration and lie. There was ONE unhappy student who posted their tale.

[Seeker1]

Ruth Cox illegally tried to enter the home where Rob and Lauren lived. The guard dog stopped her cold. You shouldnt break into someone’s home especially where there is a dog who is protective there. Ruth Cox… bless her heart… may well have been put up to doing that to by Michael as he did not want to get his hands dirty. Not only was Michael mean but he tried to get people like poor Ruth to do dastardly deeds so he could blame her. Man… what a guy that you are all funding right and left. Do you actually think Ruth Cox would have gone up to the apartment where Rob and Lauren were living without permission/encouragement from Michael? No…she would not.

[trubandloki]

@Seeker1

That is why he is sitting in Ann Klein institution without a pillow, book, pen, pencil… until they can determine that he will not hurt any of the other guests of the state facility while under their watch… This is maximum security.

@Seeker1

If he didn’t do someone very very bad he would be at home.

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

If he hadn’t met LK & RG he would still be at home

YES!!!
You might as well add JK to that list too.

@Seeker1

ok… according to the court he tried to brutally kill one person… and came very very close to succeeding. I know that another one would have had some bullet holes and possibly two deaths if our heros the police and Rob had not stepped in and held him down. He was OFF THE CHARTS.

@Knights_Mom

All you do is try and portray MB as an animal. You exaggerate, lie, belittle and say whatever you need to to keep that narrative.

Silly you, CH said they do not lie. I am not sure how we balance out the posts that say otherwise, but darn it, she said she does not lie so we must believe that.

@Seeker1

Ruth Cox illegally tried to enter the home where Rob and Lauren lived. The guard dog stopped her cold. You shouldnt break into someone’s home especially where there is a dog who is protective there. Ruth Cox… bless her heart… may well have been put up to doing that to by Michael as he did not want to get his hands dirty. Not only was Michael mean but he tried to get people like poor Ruth to do dastardly deeds so he could blame her. Man… what a guy that you are all funding right and left. Do you actually think Ruth Cox would have gone up to the apartment where Rob and Lauren were living without permission/encouragement from Michael? No…she would not.

[Omgitsme]

Beats his chest? Puts his wife and girlfriend together? So now he’s a polyamorous gorilla.
If there was a hornet’s nest your daughter kicked it.

[Seeker1]

He had huge problems. HUGE ones. You can call it what you want.