Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[DreadPirateRoberts]

@cutter99

@Seeker1

Ted Bundy was a charmer, the kind of guy that made it easy for people to be swept into his web. “I liked him immediately, but people like Ted can fool you completely,” said Ann Rule, author of the best-selling “Stranger Beside Me,” about her experiences with Bundy, a man she considered a friend. “I’d been a cop, had all that psychology — but his mask was perfect. I say that long acquaintance can help you know someone. But you can never be really sure. Scary.”

I am assuming you mean Lauren when referencing these psychopaths?

I thought that poster was talking about their own public presentation vs. private thoughts. Ted Bundy, after all, was so well liked in his church congregation that members made cards of support for him when he was first arrested. Conspicuously offering prayers and adopting the language and behavior of a moralizing community apparently sometimes works to conceal darker thoughts and feelings.

[BrendaJane]

as if us railbirds had any influence…

[Sdel]

@BrendaJane

as if us railbirds had any influence…

I guess the point of it was all that calling out of bad behavior nonsense was to get someone connected enough to become worried and get MHG to pull the plug…

[Sparrowette]

I just put a certain mom on ignore, and it’s amazing the change in how the thread goes.

Why do people feed trolls?

[cutter99]

@DreadPirateRoberts

@cutter99

@Seeker1

Ted Bundy was a charmer, the kind of guy that made it easy for people to be swept into his web. “I liked him immediately, but people like Ted can fool you completely,” said Ann Rule, author of the best-selling “Stranger Beside Me,” about her experiences with Bundy, a man she considered a friend. “I’d been a cop, had all that psychology — but his mask was perfect. I say that long acquaintance can help you know someone. But you can never be really sure. Scary.”

I am assuming you mean Lauren when referencing these psychopaths?

I thought that poster was talking about their own public presentation vs. private thoughts. Ted Bundy, after all, was so well liked in his church congregation that members made cards of support for him when he was first arrested. Conspicuously offering prayers and adopting the language and behavior of a moralizing community apparently sometimes works to conceal darker thoughts and feelings.

Yeah, no one here is sending Lauren cards of support!

But guess what? We are sending Michael cards of support.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m confused by this, since unless it involves sexual abuse of children, or a power imbalance relationship, harassment and bullying violations of SS code are handled by USEF.

Weaponization of SS that leads to direct involvement of CPS to intervene with the parent/child relationship based on false allegations definitely falls under the abuse and harassment of children that is SS’s charge to investigate.

Aside from the 750 page complaint filed by MHG with USEF on August 6, 2019, did you interpret Eggbutt as saying MHG also filed a second complaint with SS itself based on the CPS visit? Did CPS disclose to her that they were contacted by SS?

[BrendaJane]

bordom

[BrendaJane]

LOL, I guess that was the point. Poor Lauren isn’t getting any love.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m confused by this, since unless it involves sexual abuse of children, or a power imbalance relationship, harassment and bullying violations of SS code are handled by USEF.

Weaponization of SS that leads to direct involvement of CPS to intervene with the parent/child relationship based on false allegations definitely falls under the abuse and harassment of children that is SS’s charge to investigate.

Aside from the 750 page complaint filed by MHG with USEF on August 6, 2019, did you interpret Eggbutt as saying MHG also filed a second complaint with SS itself based on the CPS visit? Did CPS disclose to her that they were contacted by SS?

Hmmm….fishing expedition. Do you know who else was in incredibly concerned and made allegations of a mole at SS?

[DownYonder]

@Sdel

Weaponization of SS that leads to direct involvement of CPS to intervene with the parent/child relationship based on false allegations definitely falls under the abuse and harassment of children that is SS’s charge to investigate.

I’ve been wondering about the fact that CPS was allegedly there to investigate possible child neglect. What could LK have said to SS and/or CPS that pointed to possible child neglect? Did she send them the pics of the overflowing litterboxes with comments that they were “over the children’s beds”? Did she make comments about guns on the property?

As for the former, I can easily believe those photos were either phony or were staged. And as for the latter - pffft, big deal, many farms have firearms on the property, so I doubt SS or CPS would have been overly concerned about that aspect unless there were intimations that the guns were not being handled or stored responsibly when there were “unsupervised” children around - IOW, LK dropped enough “hints” that CPS became concerned.

A question: does anyone know if CPS might have contacted LK? I know she claims to not have contacted them directly, but would SS have possibly given her contact into to CPS, who then called her to get more info before they sent the caseworker out there?

[cutter99]

@BrendaJane

LOL, I guess that was the point. Poor Lauren isn’t getting any love.

Yeah well, you reap what you sow!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

MHG/MB filed the 750 page complaint against LK on August 6, 2019, and MB dearly killed her the next day.

MB did not kill anyone.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Presumably MHG did not know MB would shoot LK the day after she mailed the huge file to USEF. By tiling the complaint against LK, MHG may have created a situation in which USEF will learn what she said on the audio recordings. If it puts her in a bad light, that would be the basis of regret.

Presumably MHG KNOWS what she has said and is not worried about moving forward because she knows what was said in the context it was said in.

Clearly the whole world is not going to tip toe around about the ever mentioned audio recordings that were not important (or legal) enough to mention at the criminal trial.

My point was that when she filed the original report, she had no way of knowing that a huge spotlight would eventually shine on what happened before the shooting.

I can imagine that audio recordings would be problematic, if not inadmissible, in a criminal trial, but fair game in a confidential USEF investigation.

If MHG is not worried about what she said, then she can rest easy.

[Sdel]

@DownYonder

As for the former, I can easily believe those photos were either phony or were staged. And as for the latter - pffft, big deal, many farms have firearms on the property, so I doubt SS or CPS would have been overly concerned about that aspect unless there were intimations that the guns were not being handled or stored responsibly when there were “unsupervised” children around - IOW, LK dropped enough “hints” that CPS became concerned.

I think that IM’s comments about MHG allowing her child to participate in a “plot to harm” LK is the most likely explanation….such a plot that coincidentally supposedly included RC and her gun……who CPS also wanted to talk to that day….

[DownYonder]

@Warmblood1

Also, in my opinion contact orders aren’t just handed out. A judge would have to be convinced with evidence in order to issue one out.

There must be some rather compelling evidence.

[BrownDerby]

@Sdel

Hmmm….fishing expedition. Do you know who else was in incredibly concerned and made allegations of a mole at SS?

Yup. Very cute.

[Mondo]

It occurs to me that maybe everyone shouldn’t be so angry and reactionary at LK’s lies. I think she actually 100% believes what she posts. It’s why she gets so defensive when someone calls her out. That fries her brain (remember Vger?). She can’t stop posting and she can’t stop telling her fairy tales because her disorder or whatever you want to call it won’t allow her to stop. She believes everything she’s made up in her head. I’m also guessing that she was born that way and the drug use is a poor attempt to self-medicate. I do feel sorry for her. Also, these types of disorders are often hereditary. I think that explains a lot about some other posters. I also think it’s why she seemed so gleeful about admitting on the witness stand that she intended to “finish the bastard.” She believes that is perfectly OK. This being mental health awareness month, just thought I’d throw in this little PSA.

[BrendaJane]

Is it only worth reporting if it makes national news?

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

My point was that when she filed the original report, she had no way of knowing that a huge spotlight would eventually shine on what happened before the shooting.

You are right, she knew that LK was already being her normal creepy self and doing things that were not appropriate, before the shooting happened. LK did not just start being LK after the shooting.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I can imagine that audio recordings would be problematic, if not inadmissible, in a criminal trial, but fair game in a confidential USEF investigation.

Illegal things do not suddenly become legal because one wants to threaten people with them.

[Sdel]

@BrownDerby

@Sdel

Hmmm….fishing expedition. Do you know who else was in incredibly concerned and made allegations of a mole at SS?

Yup. Very cute.

Yep…it really calls into question that whole last edit and run about reviewing her SS report and not seeing how CPS got called from it (review CPS testimony that SS reported to them) and how she had believed it was a mole this whole time.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m confused by this, since unless it involves sexual abuse of children, or a power imbalance relationship, harassment and bullying violations of SS code are handled by USEF.

Weaponization of SS that leads to direct involvement of CPS to intervene with the parent/child relationship based on false allegations definitely falls under the abuse and harassment of children that is SS’s charge to investigate.

Aside from the 750 page complaint filed by MHG with USEF on August 6, 2019, did you interpret Eggbutt as saying MHG also filed a second complaint with SS itself based on the CPS visit? Did CPS disclose to her that they were contacted by SS?

Hmmm….fishing expedition. Do you know who else was in incredibly concerned and made allegations of a mole at SS?

I’m actually surprised to learn that MHG filed a second complaint against LK, with SS, after the shooting.

If she did file a second complaint after the shooting, that would suggest she didn’t regret filing the first complaint, so I agree that’s evidence of non regret.

I did not make allegations of a “mole at SS”??? Someone upthread raised the possibility of a USEF mole in these threads.

No, I don’t know who made “allegations of a mole at SS”. The usual suspects would be LK, IM, and YD, so one of them probably?