Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Omgitsme]

To quote Omarosa, “Jesus ain’t say that.”

[BrendaJane]

I guess we don’t flag because a lot of us have them on ignore.
I mean, who has time?!

[trubandloki]

@BrendaJane

I guess we don’t flag because a lot of us have them on ignore.
I mean, who has time?!

And most of us do not see it as a win when the thread is closed. Some posters seem to strive for the close.

[BrendaJane]

well, shucks, the illustrious YD got a thread in the support section closed! A record that will stand untouched for a very long time!

[DownYonder]

@eggbutt

I wonder if Simring or MB’s longtime therapist are currently involved with him now? Is Dr Mustache?

Dr. Schlessinger (Mustache) may be too busy working on his new book: “The Inheritability of Toxic Personality Disorders.”

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Ambitious_Kate

@CurrentlyHorseless

At this point, I have my own intense mutual animosity with FitzE. She posted as evidence of my “dishonesty”
that when asked for a reference to a post, I provided a post number but not a link. (?!). That’s dishonest? To be charitable, perhaps her definition of “dishonesty” is different from mine.

No, CurrentlyShamless, OUR, as in the collective bulletin board’s, definition of dishonesty is different from yours. You lie, obfuscate, make crap up, twist words, pretend you don’t understand, ignore facts, pretend you ignore facts, come upon factoids long since discussed slowly and late, omit partial facts, make up other facts, ask questions answered in detail previously, play the fool, play the victim, play stupid, deny playing stupid, get nasty, deny getting nasty. You are one of the most dishonest people on this thread. No one thinks you are LK’s sister, but most of us assume you are YD, a banned poster the mods apparently have no problem allowing to come back under a new username. If you aren’t her, then you studied her and learned how to post exactly like her. You don’t object to incessant LK bashing, you just like to toy with other people’s posts, like Uriah Heep, obsequious and disingenuous. You are the definition of dishonest.

None of us like you. None of us like having you here. None of us think you are honest, none of us think you add anything to the discussion, no insight, no alternate view point, nothing to make anyone think or consider other possibilities. You aren’t even honest in your own opinions, and certianly not in the manner you interact with other people. You think your oily whining makes you rightous, but everyone sees you as one of the most dishonest people to come across this board, except for the K family, and I say that not because you are any better than them, but you are almost worse, because you apparently are doing this all on your own, and not at the behest of other people you might be loyal to.

Nobody thinks you are one of Lauren’s family. You are probably YD, based on how you repeat YD’s patterns and most of us are sick of you. You aren’t charitable, you aren’t thoughtful, you aren’t shocked at posters’ reactions to the horror that is LK, and you have never been afraid of anyone here, how could you possibly? You are probably the most disingenuous poster I’ve come across in a long time, and the word Dishonest is defined by you.

Sdel had a long post in which she analyzed some of YDs old posts, and seemed to conclude that YD had inside knowledge, and YD being banned had something to do with the pharmaceutical field, which was the professional field of LKs sister. I am not surprised YD was banned (although someone said she was suspended, not banned, a while back). I remember YDs posting style, and found it to be extremely belligerent, grandiose, and condescending. I don’t see the resemblance of my posting style to hers, but I don’t think you (g) need a real resemblance in posting style to suspect someone is YD. The accusation was also made about the other posters in my “niche”, Hut-Ho and Equkelly, and I see no resemblance of their posting styles, with YD either.

For me, I learned a lot of the dynamics of these threads in that December 2021 thread in which Seeker1 came on saying she was Lauren’s mother. Equkelly was accused of being YD, FitzE attacked Equkelly, RND, and me, and you and IdahoRider posted extremely offensive posts directed at Seeker1. I dropped out for 24 hours, and when I returned, the mods announced that a bunch of posts had been deleted and one poster “had lost access” to the board. I assumed that it was either you or IdahoRider who had “lost access”! I don’t know what Equkelly did to get banned, but your post was offensive enough for the mods to remove it.

You speak very authoritatively about “us” and the “collective bulletin board’s” opinion. As of two days ago, Sdel seemed to think YD was LKs sister, based on a detailed analysis of YDs posts, and someone with inside knowledge. How did the “collective bulletin board” arrive at this new opinion? Was there some behind the scenes PMing among the posters of the “collective bulletin board” in which Sdel was convinced I’m not LKs sister, but “probably” am YD? I previously stated the opinion that PMing went on to coordinate attacks on particular posters in an attempt to get them banned. I now see that’s hardly necessary. If one poster starts an attack, others can easily join in without actual plans by PM. But it looks like behind the scenes PMing does go on for the purpose of discussing “the collective boards opinion” on what to do with problematic posters, correct?

I know you don’t like me, @Ambitious_Kate. I don’t like you either!

ETA. This speculating on who is an alter for who can make you crazy. Just now I had the flash of an idea that your post was written by someone else and sent to you by PM to be posted under your screen name. Crazy!

ETA Perhaps everyone involved in “the collective boards” opinion who thinks my posts contribute absolutely nothing could each just put me on “ignore”.

[SillyHorse]

@DownYonder

@eggbutt

I wonder if Simring or MB’s longtime therapist are currently involved with him now? Is Dr Mustache?

Dr. Schlessinger (Mustache) may be too busy working on his new book: “The Inheritability of Toxic Personality Disorders.”

Bravo!

[MHM]

Nope.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@FitzE

It’s interesting, CH’s attack on me (that she is continuing and really not letting go of) is rising to the point of being actually, demonstrably vicious, not pretend “I wanna be the victim, please pity me” vicious. She keeps posting detailed, long-winded posts both tagging me (luckily I do NOT get those notifications) and not tagging me to just continue to have a go at me, relentlessly. But we don’t flag so she keeps on.

What a really strange obsession. I’m glad not to see the dishonest posts anymore except as quotes which I can scroll right by. I agree with @Ambitious_Kate’s brava performance above and opting out has, indeed, made this thread more interesting and on point for me!

LOL. FitzE is applauding the “brava performance” of @Ambitious_Kate.

[DownYonder]

@ekat

The State is supposed to pick a psychiatrist for MB’s evaluation. Dr Stach is not one. My hope is the state went with Dr Simring because he already knows the background and doesn’t have to wade through the trial discovery. But they probably didn’t.

I would be surprised if Schellhorn approved Dr. Simring for the evaluation. I think he would not want to use someone who testified for the Defense in the trial and would want an independent “non-involved” shrink.

I am wondering if they would therefore have the evaluation done by the staff shrink at Ann Klein, esp. since he is already on the State’s payroll.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sdel had a long post in which she analyzed some of YDs old posts, and seemed to conclude that YD had inside knowledge, and YD being banned had something to do with the pharmaceutical field, which was the professional field of LKs sister. I am not surprised YD was banned (although someone said she was suspended, not banned, a while back). I remember YDs posting style, and found it to be extremely belligerent, grandiose, and condescending. I don’t see the resemblance of my posting style to hers, but I don’t think you (g) need a real resemblance in posting style to suspect someone is YD. The accusation was also made about the other posters in my “niche”, Hut-Ho and Equkelly, and I see no resemblance of their posting styles, with YD either.

For me, I learned a lot of the dynamics of these threads in that December 2021 thread in which Seeker1 came on saying she was Lauren’s mother. Equkelly was accused of being YD, FitzE attacked Equkelly, RND, and me, and you and IdahoRider posted extremely offensive posts directed at Seeker1. I dropped out for 24 hours, and when I returned, the mods announced that a bunch of posts had been deleted and one poster “had lost access” to the board. I assumed that it was either you or IdahoRider who had “lost access”! I don’t know what Equkelly did to get banned, but your post was offensive enough for the mods to remove it.

You speak very authoritatively about “us” and the “collective bulletin board’s” opinion. As of two days ago, Sdel seemed to think YD was LKs sister, based on a detailed analysis of YDs posts, and someone with inside knowledge. How did the “collective bulletin board” arrive at this new opinion? Was there some behind the scenes PMing among the posters of the “collective bulletin board” in which Sdel was convinced I’m not LKs sister, but “probably” am YD? I previously stated the opinion that PMing went on to coordinate attacks on particular posters in an attempt to get them banned. I now see that’s hardly necessary. If one poster starts an attack, others can easily join in without actual plans by PM. But it looks like behind the scenes PMing does go on for the purpose of discussing “the collective boards opinion” on what to do with problematic posters, correct?

I know you don’t like me, @Ambitious_Kate. I don’t like you either!

ETA. This speculating on who is an alter for who can make you crazy. Just now I had the flash of an idea that your post was written by someone else and sent to you by PM to be posted under your screen name. Crazy!

ETA Perhaps everyone involved in “the collective boards” opinion who thinks my posts contribute absolutely nothing could each just put me on “ignore”.

.

[SillyHorse]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Perhaps everyone involved in “the collective boards” opinion who thinks my posts contribute absolutely nothing could each just put me on “ignore”.

I’ve finally had enough of you, and am going to do as you suggest. Bye.

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

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Oh fine, be that way.

I come here all excited that you quoted me and what do I find… Posts removed.

[ekat]

@DownYonder

would be surprised if Schellhorn approved Dr. Simring for the evaluation. I think he would not want to use someone who testified for the Defense in the trial and would want an independent “non-involved” shrink.

I am wondering if they would therefore have the evaluation done by the staff shrink at Ann Klein, esp. since he is already on the State’s payroll.

I agree completely. I just feel bad for anyone else who has to read all that discovery and try to make sense of it all.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@LiberalSnowflake

@CurrentlyHorseless

@FitzE

@Sdel

Kind of how like CH went right after FitzE from the beginning without obvious historical reason….

Wow, travel for a hellish 24+ hours and I’m hundreds of posts behind. But I wanted to thank @Sdel for noticing this. CH has been horrid to me from go, but does it in a weird manipulative way that is easy to weasel out of when called out. I also don’t flag and report like she does, so we are at a distinct disadvantage on the, what did RND call it - runny to mommy front. Her “I’m so afraid of other posters” cover is meant to obscure that she is relentlessly attacking and disparaging other posters here, but most of us are too mature to report her antics.

I solved it by first putting her on blast and then on ignore. Not worth my labour, my time, my intelligence, or even my eyeballs!

But I did not she had a bead on me from jump. I suspect dishonesty in background and motive as well as just the dishonesty in her posts.

I did not respond to Sdel’s post at the time, but wish to now.

When I started participating in the threads, I had been lurking for some time, and had noticed the styles of various posters, including FitzE. I do remember an exchange in which, as a lurker, I was shocked at the way FitzE went after another poster. I think it was ErinMeri, but apparently ErinMeri was not bothered.

In December, I was shocked at the viciousness with which FitzE attacked me, seemingly out of the blue. Lots of posts were deleted by the mods from that thread, so her most vicious posts directed at me may no longer be there. She also attacked Equkelly, who ended up being banned by the end of the exchange.

Any poster who occupies the niche “I object to incessant LK bashing”, and posts in a high volume, is “speculated” to be YD. Hut-Ho, Equkelly, and even CanteringCarrot (!) have been speculated to be YD, so I’ve anticipated being speculating about all along.

Based on what Sdel posted, I now realize that YD and FitzE had “history”, and that, while she didn’t openly say “you’re YD” at the time, that FitzEs “level of emotion” was explained by the likelihood that she thought she was continuing her feud with YD. Being blasted with full strength “hatred of YD” was not pleasant.

At this point, I have my own intense mutual animosity with FitzE. She posted as evidence of my “dishonesty”
that when asked for a reference to a post, I provided a post number but not a link. (?!). That’s dishonest? To be charitable, perhaps her definition of “dishonesty” is different from mine.

At this point, I think there has been speculation that I’m YD, who is apparently LKs sister, so maybe I’m speculated to be LKs sister; someone not a blood relative of LK but working for her legal team; and perhaps an alter for IM. (Why would IM be writing under an alter as well as under IM???)

I figure that I can either

1. Ignore all this speculation, or
2. Keep saying, I’m not A, B, C, etc

Being defensive just has the effect of validating the speculation, however wild, so I will go back to ignoring it.

I am no longer “afraid” of FitzE, but do not wish to spend effort to counter her insults. I’ll let the insults just lie there in all their glory, or flag them for the moderator. She is in a huge majority of highly partisan posters and will get lots of “likes” for her insults and mockery. I know my only choice it to put up with it or leave.

You were frightened of @FitzE? A stranger on a public forum who has no idea who you are, and you have no idea who she/he is? A stranger who’s stated several times she/he isn’t located in the USA? I’m sorry that you felt threatened by a total stranger who doesn’t know who you are or where you’re located, but maybe spending so much time on a public bulletin board continually re-hashing such an emotive topic isn’t the best place for you, it obviously causes you great distress and fear. It’s okay to step away, it’s sometimes healthy to step away, it seems best for you if you do step away.

I did not feel physically threatened, obviously. I felt mocked and insulted “on SM”. Isn’t that what these threads are about?

You’re right that FitzE and other posters can only attack my screen name, so they are not attacking “the real me”, but it was still very unpleasant.

I did step away at the time, and will do so again in the future if necessary.

[DownYonder]

Recently posted by Currently Shameless:

Just now I had the flash of an idea that your post was written by someone else and sent to you by PM to be posted under your screen name. Crazy!

Methinks someone is projecting a bit much.

[trubandloki]

@ekat

I agree completely. I just feel bad for anyone else who has to read all that discovery and try to make sense of it all.

And not feel like they have been violated in some way after reading it all.

[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

@DownYonder

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Oh fine, be that way.

I come here all excited that you quoted me and what do I find… Posts removed.

Sorry - I had tagged you by mistake so decided to delete the post and start over.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I did not feel physically threatened, obviously. I felt mocked and insulted “on SM”. Isn’t that what these threads are about?

You’re right that FitzE and other posters can only attack my screen name, so they are not attacking “the real me”, but it was still very unpleasant.

I did step away at the time, and will do so again in the future if necessary.

.

[ekat]

Right? Do they keep eye bleach stocked for the Dr’s there?