Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Seeker1]

Great idea moderator!!

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Sdel

I wonder if maybe LK has made a new complaint now that the criminal discovery is available. The date is a batch release date and not a complaint date. There are several people who were added with the 5/17/2022 date.

I don’t think this is a new complaint. Apparently MB’s other complaint is gone, as far as I could see. I did a search on his name, and only this complaint comes up now. It would appear to me that the complaint was changed to this new one, and the old one is gone?

[Seeker1]

That is a perfect example of spreading misinformation about the verdict. Km

[RND]

Oh my goodness I hit quite a few nerves! Obviously a lot of you saw yourselves in my post so I don’t need to comment any further on that topic.

[Seeker1]

Here is the legal definition knights mom. If the jury decides unanimously that the defendant was insane when s/he committed the crime, then s/he will be found not guilty by reason of insanity. The sanity hearing usually takes place before a jury—but not always.Feb 1, 2022 Notice the "when s/he committed the crime

[Knights_Mom]

@Seeker1

That is a perfect example of spreading misinformation about the verdict. Km

You’re talking jibberish again.

I have not spread misinformation anywhere.

[Graymaresrule]

Talking to yourself is not usually considered to be normal

[Knights_Mom]

So does anyone know how many years makes an “elderly”?

[Seeker1]

The verdict clearly indicated that the person committed the crime

[Ghazzu]

@BigMama1

But do we need to dissect the reading choices of her book club or Bible study group? That just seems petty and supports the “mean girls” view of the posters here.

If she didn’t keep draagging it in her, I might agree.
But oddly, she seems to think it’s some kind of stick to beat posters with–neener neener, I’m going to Bible study you filthy sinners!

[Ambitious_Kate]

Remember we are not to discuss each other, or drag each other any more? Just a note, nudge nudge…

[Seeker1]

Brenda jane…i pray for everyone to be happy and for everyone to become the best version of themselves…not to agree with me.

[Seeker1]

Thank you ambitious kate

[trubandloki]

@Seeker1

That is a perfect example of spreading misinformation about the verdict. Km

@Seeker1

Here is the legal definition knights mom. If the jury decides unanimously that the defendant was insane when s/he committed the crime, then s/he will be found not guilty by reason of insanity. The sanity hearing usually takes place before a jury—but not always.Feb 1, 2022 Notice the "when s/he committed the crime

@Seeker1

The verdict clearly indicated that the person committed the crime

@Seeker1

Brenda jane…i pray for everyone to be happy and for everyone to become the best version of themselves…not to agree with me.

@Seeker1

Thank you ambitious kate

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[hut-ho78]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@CanteringCarrot

@CurrentlyHorseless

@RND

I wonder if 48 Hours is going to cover the grotesque victim shaming aspect that has gone on here on the COTH forums for more than two years? It would be quite the story - “lonely, elderly ladies find comfort and companionship in years long online abuse of shooting victim”.

At least the moderator finally admitted that they are only letting everyone continue to abuse the Kanareks here because they consider them to be famous, and that those of you who continue to bash them are protected while no one else is allowed to bash all of you in kind.

The issue of how 48 Hours covers the bashing of the gunshot victim on SM here on COTH is one of the few areas of suspense left for me.

Since Eggbutt is both the long time leader of the threads and has officially disclosed her identity, I wonder if she’ll be interviewed. Her 15 minutes of fame!

Do you think COTH is really that important and significant? It’s possible they might touch on reactions on various SM platforms, but I don’t know that they’ll feature COTH or Eggbutt for 15 minutes, much more important things than that! I’d be surprised if they really go into it, but I’m not so familiar with the show.

Your definition of “bashing” however, may vary from others. To what extent is a gunshot victim free from criticism? To what extent can their actions be discussed? To what extent are they not responsible?

So and so’s “15 minutes of fame” is an expression; I don’t think Eggbutt will actually get 15 minutes on the program. But I hope she is mentioned for her role in the SM part of the drama.

There has been stuff on other SM platforms during and immediately after the trial, but has there been anything like the constant 3 years on COTH (obviously this will continue through the airing of the program in the fall)?

Obviously LKs behavior on and off SM in the weeks before the shooting contributed to the tense, volatile setting that eventually exploded in violence. But there were a number of principal players in this tragedy, including MHG and RC. If MBs divorce caused serious financial stress, which seems really likely, that’s another huge stress.

I’m not even saying that MHG was “at fault” for wanting LK gone. There was strong mutual animosity between the two women, and it’s extremely understandable that she would have wanted the farmhouse in reasonable privacy for herself, MB, and her children.

I don’t know if it’s true that LK was floating loans for the utility bills or not. But I can totally believe that MB was between a rock and a hard place — the rock being MHG with her insistence that MB send LK off, possibly threatening to leave him if he didn’t, and the hard place being LK, who he may have needed desperately for the revenue she brought in.

I believed IM when he said that MB, rather than being decisive and making a tough choice, he wanted it both ways, telling MHG he would deal with LK, and actively keeping LK as a client while telling her he would deal with MHG. It was untenable.

But if MB was under extreme stress by being between a rock and a hard place, it doesn’t make sense to me to say the situation was untenable solely because of the “hard place” and not because of “the rock”.

MB was caught in a dilemma, and, as it turned out, couldn’t cope. He became delusional.

If he had not had psychological/mental problems prior to May/June 2019, he could have coped with a difficult but not really that unusual situation; just suck it up and tell LK to leave, well before August 2019 and accept the lost revenue, or suck it up and tell MHG he wasn’t willing to send LK packing.

If MB had ever resolved that he simply wanted LK gone, he would have told her to leave (before Aug 5) instead of having her bring more horses in from quarantine and making plans to coach her at shows later in August, right?

I have no problem with LKs actions during the year and a half she trained with MB being discussed. She posted the dramatic FB posts about the king and queen. She called SS to report him for bullying. She called the BI to harass him.

But what has been discussed here for more than 2.5 years goes way beyond discussing LKs actual role in creating the situation that led to the shooting. That’s just bashing to tear someone down.

I see the tragedy as resulting from MB suffering a mental break after being caught in an untenable situation. The untenable situation was not created by LK in a vacuum. RC played a role, and was at fault, for bringing the gun. I’m not even saying MHG was “at fault” for her role, just that she played a role in pressuring MB to send LK off, when, apparently, he didn’t want to lose her as a client.

I think the bashing lies in the insistence that the entire tragedy somehow resulted purely from the actions of LK in a vacuum.

I honestly don’t think that 48 hours will present it that way. But that’s what I’m curious to see.

Thank you. I agree. FWIW, I love your comments!

[trubandloki]

@RND

Seeker1’s nicknames for the 24/7 crowd here were the best thing to come from these threads since they started in 2019, so of course the moderator had to come here asap to shut that sh!t down. And also of course, the 24/7 crowd is welcome to keep harassing her with their normal nastiness.

Mod 1 has been pretty forgiving about rule following in all these threads so I find it interesting you are now calling them out and swearing about it.

[Sparky]

@Knights_Mom

So does anyone know how many years makes an “elderly”?

I’ll venture to say I’m older than anyone here. But since I just finished cleaning the barn, meeting the new horse I bought on Monday and showing a contractor around the property before I meet friends for dinner, I’m going to say it may not be the year count that makes you old, but how you fill the gift of the days you are given. But even with mimosas, I still can’t seem to fit bible study in. Oh well.

[trubandloki]

@Sparky

I’ll venture to say I’m older than anyone here. But since I just finished cleaning the barn, meeting the new horse I bought on Monday and showing a contractor around the property before I meet friends for dinner, I’m going to say it may not be the year count that makes you old, but how you fill the gift of the days you are given. But even with mimosas, I still can’t seem to fit bible study in. Oh well.

In my world all those things you listed are a kind of bible study, a really good one at that.
Cleaning the barn I find to be one of those things that is so uplifting. Stacking hay is the same.

[Sparky]

I feel closer to god while I’m on horseback than I ever did in church!

[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

@RND

Seeker1’s nicknames for the 24/7 crowd here were the best thing to come from these threads since they started in 2019, so of course the moderator had to come here asap to shut that sh!t down. And also of course, the 24/7 crowd is welcome to keep harassing her with their normal nastiness.

Mod 1 has been pretty forgiving about rule following in all these threads so I find it interesting you are now calling them out and swearing about it.

FWIW, one of my posts earlier today was edited by Mod 1. I guess it struck a nerve with someone and they yanked Mod 1’s chain about it.