Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It has absolutely nothing to do with any trial. It’s negative gossip about LK and her father as well.

Neither does who MB sleeps with, but you seem to like to bring that type of information up quite regularly.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I assume your classy contacts in Florida would never stoop to installing listening devices, so bringing in JK, even with the “I wonder” is just nasty speculation intended to denigrate.

But you calling people you do not know names is about the trial?

Or maybe someone associated with the trainer that left talked about being called by JK? Darn, that could be an option. Like other people in the past have talked about, JK calling them up, threatening to sue them if they do not do what he wants.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re the truth of your posts, Eggbutt, you posted that all of LKs family was under an order to “not discuss” MHG. In later discussion, it turns out you had not seen “the order” and “had no idea” who had received the order! The walking back of the probably false claim of LKs family could not “discuss MHG” only occurred after Sdel provided an elaborately reasoned post doxxing “LK’s sister” as both YD and my screen name!

Oh, but maybe Eggbutt talked to someone who has first hand experience regarding the order.
I mean, you have not seen proof of most of the things you blast as facts, right?

For someone who says they do not report things, you are talking an awful lot about reporting things.

@CurrentlyHorseless

It’s not a back-peddle! I had to explain to KM three times that saying that MHG “played a role” simply because she, MHG, intensely wanted LK gone is not saying MHG “was at fault”.

Uh-hu…OK. Sure.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

MB by recovering from a DELUSION that LK was such a dangerous threat he had to shoot her twice.

Didn’t the state’s professional witness say that it was not a delusion and that is why MB could not be insane?

Yes. The jury, as finders of fact, sided with the defense expert, who said that MB was delusional.

The trial is over, and the verdict was NGRI on two counts.

[Angela_Freda]

Oof

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It has absolutely nothing to do with any trial.

What LK is currently doing is definitely related to the civil trial.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

It has absolutely nothing to do with any trial. It’s negative gossip about LK and her father as well.

Neither does who MB sleeps with, but you seem to like to bring that type of information up quite regularly.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I assume your classy contacts in Florida would never stoop to installing listening devices, so bringing in JK, even with the “I wonder” is just nasty speculation intended to denigrate.

But you calling people you do not know names is about the trial?

Or maybe someone associated with the trainer that left talked about being called by JK? Darn, that could be an option. Like other people in the past have talked about, JK calling them up, threatening to sue them if they do not do what he wants.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re the truth of your posts, Eggbutt, you posted that all of LKs family was under an order to “not discuss” MHG. In later discussion, it turns out you had not seen “the order” and “had no idea” who had received the order! The walking back of the probably false claim of LKs family could not “discuss MHG” only occurred after Sdel provided an elaborately reasoned post doxxing “LK’s sister” as both YD and my screen name!

Oh, but maybe Eggbutt talked to someone who has first hand experience regarding the order.
I mean, you have not seen proof of most of the things you blast as facts, right?

For someone who says they do not report things, you are talking an awful lot about reporting things.

@CurrentlyHorseless

It’s not a back-peddle! I had to explain to KM three times that saying that MHG “played a role” simply because she, MHG, intensely wanted LK gone is not saying MHG “was at fault”.

Uh-hu…OK. Sure.

You may refer to me as “classy” whenever you wish, @trubandloki.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

You may refer to me as “classy” whenever you wish, @trubandloki.

Well thank you. I might want to add some more words around that title, but since you are OK with it…

[Sparrowette]

I don’t know what’s with AARP’s database, but my in-his-20’s grandson is getting AARP stuff sent to my address.

[Angela_Freda]

@trubandloki

Didn’t the state’s professional witness say that it was not a delusion and that is why MB could not be insane?

He asserted that the actual fear, from actual instances were not delusional (because others agreed and were fearful) but that exacerbated the other, over the top delusions. Iirc.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

It has absolutely nothing to do with any trial.

What LK is currently doing is definitely related to the civil trial.

Perhaps so. Perhaps the reason she has not ridden since before the trial is due to her physical injuries.

Maybe it’s due to psychological stress from being bashed on SM.

For whatever reason, she seems to be having difficulty moving on with her life. If that’s true. I wouldn’t know.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

You may refer to me as “classy” whenever you wish, @trubandloki.

Well thank you. I might want to add some more words around that title, but since you are OK with it…

I’m fine with you turning on me the name I used, which was “classy”. You are not authorized by me to add words.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

Yes, 3 days for being disorderly. Not a typing error.

Not a typing error, but certainly a mischaracterization of NJ law. Sure, he could have given a 3 day notice to quit (maybe that’s what the August 5th notice was, I don’t know), but all that would have done is given him the right to file a court action for eviction. Depending on court calendars, the actual eviction process, even before COVID can take months, before it even gets before a judge, who may not necessarily grant the eviction, but even if the court does, you still have yet another waiting period to get your order to have tenant(s) removed.

So, a 3-day eviction is a misnomer.

Just stop the nonsense. There is a 3 day notice for actions by the tenant. https://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/publications/pdf_lti/evic_law.pdf

LK screaming outside his door all night? Done.

Is it a slam dunk? Maybe not but he didn’t do it. Insane then or later after further deterioration? Ninja wandering? Done though that story sounds like a hallucination.

[NEEDS_A_NAP]

Neither did any legal issues pertaining to MHG’s ex-husband, but you were certainly glad to post about finding that online.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@NEEDS_A_NAP

Neither did any legal issues pertaining to MHG’s ex-husband, but you were certainly glad to post about finding that online.

You’re right, that was irrelevant. If you think he cares, I’m happy to go back and delete it.

Was it you who first brought him up as a contractor? I don’t remember. I’ll go back and delete that post of mine when I have the time.

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

MB by recovering from a DELUSION that LK was such a dangerous threat he had to shoot her twice.

Didn’t the state’s professional witness say that it was not a delusion and that is why MB could not be insane?

The jury believed the defense witness. I think the jury got it right. Maybe you disagree and think the state witness is right? Do you believe MB was faking a delusion? Do you believe he was sane when he carried RC’s handgun to the house and shot LK twice?

[hut-ho78]

@cutter99

@hut-ho78

I understand some of you feel a great deal of anger at LK and her family because it is misplaced anger at your own family member and your own family member you believe enabled the addition.

What was your role in their recovery or failure to recover? Did you try to sabotage their recovery as you are LK’s recovery or MB’s recovery from mental illness.

Both LK and MB need to move forward and have a terrific struggle ahead of them. LK because of her testified addiction issues in the past with the temptation to relapse exacerbated by the being shot twice, PTSD, and pain management. Instead of support, she is facing the blame and shame the victim game. MB by recovering from a DELUSION that LK was such a dangerous threat he had to shoot her twice. When he walks out, fragile and intimidated by re-entering the world, he will be subjected to this little small click of triggered SM poster nonsense about LK causing his problems. Just how badly do you want to destroy these two?

Fix yourselves and quit badgering the two most fragile people involved in their own trauma.

Sure keep the conversation about the trial but stop personally attacking LK and her family and stop feeding into a DELUSION, the same DELUSION, that the jury believed caused MB to shoot LK instead of using the New Jersey 3 day disorderly part of evicting tenants to evict her. Yes, 3 days for being disorderly. Not a typing error.

QFP.

You seem to know a lot about DELUSION.

I listened to the testimony of the defense and state expert witnesses. It’s all on YouTube.

[cutter99]

Just an update on the poll further upthread.

11 people have been threatened on COTH, one way or another, by Lauren Kanarek! These results are just in about a 14 hour period, so a limited number of people viewing the post.

11!!!

I don’t know about y’all, but I have never threatened 11 people in my entire life, let alone 11 people I do not know on an anonymous internet message board!

WHO DOES THAT???

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

Just stop the nonsense. There is a 3 day notice for actions by the tenant. https://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/publications/pdf_lti/evic_law.pdf

What nonsense? You understand that a notice is just a notice, right? It doesn’t get the tenant out.

From your link: scroll on down to page 17:

“No judgment of possession shall be entered for any premises covered by section 2 of this act, except in the nonpayment of rent under subsection a. or f. of section 2, unless the landlord has made written demand and given written notice for delivery of possession of the premises.”

Page 17 then delineates the causes, such as disorderly conducts, etc.

Then scroll back up to page 6:

“2A:18-57. Judgment for possession; warrant for removal; issuance
If no sufficient cause is shown to the contrary when the action comes on for trial, the court shall issue its warrant to any officer of the court, commanding him to remove all persons from the premises, and to put the claimant into full possession thereof, and to levy and make the costs out of the goods and chattels of the person in possession.
No warrant of removal shall issue until the expiration of 3 days after entry of judgment for possession, except as provided for in chapter 42 of this Title”

So, as I originally stated, you aren’t getting an eviction in 3 days. You send the notice, file the court action, wait for court, hope you get a judgment, then wait 3 more days before possession is returned to you.

So please, again, enlighten me as to what nonsense I wrote?

[cheval_convert]

The wandering ninja was reported by others who were living on the property, not MB, so unless they were having group hallucinations, I believe their observation.

edited because I have yet to learn to proofread my posts for spelling.

[hut-ho78]

@cutter99

@Seeker1, could you tell us if it is true that when Lauren was released from the hospital she stayed in a hotel?

Is it true she is not allowed in the family home?

Is that why she did not leave Michael’s and come stay with you since she was so scared as you tell us?

Is this about the trial? Why are you continuing to attack the family? Are you angry at your mother for neglecting you in favor of a more needy sibling? Is this why you are so angry at @Seeker1?

Please adjust your comments back to the trial unless you actually want the thread shut down.

[cutter99]

@hut-ho78

@cutter99

@Seeker1, could you tell us if it is true that when Lauren was released from the hospital she stayed in a hotel?

Is it true she is not allowed in the family home?

Is that why she did not leave Michael’s and come stay with you since she was so scared as you tell us?

Is this about the trial? Why are you continuing to attack the family? Are you angry at your mother for neglecting you in favor of a more needy sibling? Is this why you are so angry at @Seeker1?

Please adjust your comments back to the trial unless you actually want the thread shut down.

QFP.

Did my post strike a nerve with you @hut-ho78?

My family, or my relationships with them, are not on full display for the world to see, especially since my mother has not come here to defend me on anything. You see, I am an adult who handles my own issues, as adults should.

Interesting how low you choose to go!