Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[ScaredOfHorses]

@MHM

To me, that situation seems like an easier sell to a jury. How else could any mom kill her own kids unless she was, in fact, insane?

There are soooo many mom/dads that kill their kids. I do think Andrea Yates was insane, but most are not, they are just evil. I usually cannot stomach following child cases, but I am making an exception for Lori and Chad Daybell.

[Omgitsme]

Thank you!

[Knights_Mom]

Just about every day in every city a parent kills their child or a child in their care.

You wouldn’t believe what happens to kids especially infants.

I never even conceived of the things that were done until I processed abuse cases. Complete with pictures.

[MHM]

@ScaredOfHorses

There are soooo many mom/dads that kill their kids. I do think Andrea Yates was insane, but most are not, they are just evil.

I’m sure that’s true, unfortunately. But I think that the self defense approach could have a better shot in those cases, just because the concept seems so unthinkable to most people.

[ekat]

Oh I agree. Andrea Yates, by all accounts, was absolutely insane. And the other mom had sought mental health help not long before she killed her kids, so there’s some history there too. (Sofya Tsygankova).

But just think about people who it didn’t work for: the Colorado Movie shooter, James Holmes for one.

Jared Lee Loughner never asserted NGRI, he took a plea instead of going to trial. But he was found incompetent to stand trial and had to be forcibly medicated just to get him to where they could talk about a plea.

That is such a big part of why this case is fascinating to people who have no horse in the race, so to speak. NGRI almost never works. And back to your original point, I’m betting Mr S is wishing he’d never been involved in this mess.

[MHM]

@ekat

And back to your original point, I’m betting Mr S is wishing he’d never been involved in this mess.

Quite possibly Dr. S as well! Also known as the Mustache, just to be clear. Lol.

[hut-ho78]

That is a tough tough job.

[ekat]

At least he can take comfort in knowing which side he landed on. I bet he never, ever wants to see a FB post again. Ever.

Doh! Just saw your edit. Yeah the Stache is still talking about himself. He may not know yet.

[Omgitsme]

I did include that. One of them was a “nobody” at the time of the messages but is now a trainer and member of USEF.

[eggbutt]

@MHM

@eggbutt

the employer went to the home and retrieved their company truck and cell phone.

Somebody entrusted RG with a company truck and cell phone in the first place??

Actually, he was a good worker for a while. Customers loved him. When he refused a drug test after the 2nd no call, no show they terminated him. Obviously he became too much of a liability for them to keep him on.

[MHM]

Yes, as soon as I hit reply, I realized there was more than one Dr. S involved. Lol.

[Knights_Mom]

If I were that much of a muck up I wouldn’t want to show my face in public.

[ScaredOfHorses]

According to VineLink, Michael is still at the Morris County Jail. I wonder if they are waiting until the holiday weekend is over to transfer him. VineLink is usually a very reliable service, but I’m not sure how it works with a NGI verdict. You can sign up to get a notifications when he is moved

https://vinelink.com/#state-selection

[Danvers]

The word odious is a onomatopoeia, another word for the bankrupt intellect…

[eggbutt]

@Omgitsme

I did hear a rumor/gossip that he once said, “if I ever go missing look at LK” though that was years ago and I can’t prove the validity of it.

Yes, this is exactly the reason the owners became alarmed when he disappeared the first time. There’s a whole other story of LK’s reaction/behavior when the police arrived for the wellness check that I’m going to avoid telling. Suffice to say, she offered no information to the police or employer which caused more suspicion.

[MHM]

@ScaredOfHorses

According to VineLink, Michael is still at the Morris County Jail. I wonder if they are waiting until the holiday weekend is over to transfer him.

That’s pretty horrible.

I don’t know if they have Easter eggs or chocolate bunnies tomorrow or anything like that at the place where he’s headed next. But it stinks if he’s still stuck in that same place after all this time.

I don’t recall if this subject has come up before, but does anyone know if he’s been in solitary confinement this whole time? I don’t know what the conditions would be like at that jail.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

Yes, this is exactly the reason the owners became alarmed when he disappeared the first time.

Wow.

[lazaret]

Yes, the Phantom Tollbooth is full of such multilayered references, part of what makes it such a charming children’s book.

“As long as the answer is right, who cares if the question is wrong? If you want sense, you’ll have to make it yourself.”

[Wilbury_Pie]

Transfers take time. Speaking from recent experience from transfer of a family member from one hospital to another. Paper work etc takes time. I’m not shocked he’s still in County detention. Hopefully not too much longer.

[eggbutt]

@MHM

I don’t recall if this subject has come up before, but does anyone know if he’s been in solitary confinement this whole time? I don’t know what the conditions would be like at that jail.

He has not been in solitary confinement. But understand jail is quite different from prison. He hasn’t been outside in 2 1/2 years except to go to court!