Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

LOL. I predicted he would be found “guilty” or NGI. One or the other.

You were wrong on the Guilty part. I was not. Nor was I wrong about jurisdictional issues and subpoenas, the meaning of extortion, libel, treble damages etc etc

Pesky, eh?

Good grief. I said I was predicting the outcome would be “A or B”. It turns out the outcome was B.

You left out a straight Not Guilty. There were 2 of those too. You remember those, don’t you? Those were the charges the Prosecutor were going to offer to toss on the plea deal and I said he’s offering it because they have no case for it and he knows it.

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m skeptical of most of what I read from anonymous posters on the internet.

But apparently not IM, for some reason.

[BigMama1]

@Fat_Dinah

I have communicated my concerns about the anti-Semitic hate speech and the on going threats to LK and Bilinkas’ facilitating communication with Barisone to the Morris County prosecutor in hopes the judge will consider it at the May 17 hearing.
It is
Morris County Prosecutors Office
Po Box 900 - Court Street
Morristown NJ
07963-0900

Huh? That hearing is to assess MB’s mental status and whether he needs to remain committed to a psych facility. What does that have to do with supposed anti-Semitic hate speech or threats to LK, if they are coming from someone other than MB?

And of course Bilinkas is facilitating outside communication with his client. Why wouldn’t he? How does receiving messages of support through his lawyer make MB a safety risk to himself or the public? That is what’s under consideration at the upcoming hearing.

[Omgitsme]

I’m sorry, what? You’re telling the judge that MB’s lawyer is going to give him mail? What is the goal there?
I haven’t seen anyone threaten to harm LK though I will admit I skim some of the longer posts.

[MHM]

Yes, I know.

At some point in the saga, I believe somebody posted a Facebook quote or something from LK where she talked about being such a chess master, and I think she even mentioned it on the witness stand early on in her testimony.

That was the origin of my comment on the subject.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@jaj

You keep trying to make this about money; it was not that. It was about a couple with absolutely no moral compass who set out to destroy a man’s life and business. If you want to make it about money, I think that had LK and RG been forced to see to their own upkeep, they might not have had time to indulge in such malicious and absurd behavior.

No, I don’t think it was about money, per se. I think it was about each side very symmetrically being determined to “win” without backing down, when each side had numerous opportunities to de escalate and avoid the conflict.

LK could have moved without the financial disputes ( plural) being resolved, but didn’t; MB could have followed the advice of his lawyer to evict her and get a restraining order and could have acknowledged a legitimate disagreement on who owed who what, but didn’t.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Exactly. That was an excellent option that he could have taken, but didn’t.

Interesting….RG testified to not having been happy that he had to leave NC to go to MB’s as well….

[BigMama1]

@Omgitsme

I haven’t seen anyone threaten to harm LK though I will admit I skim some of the longer posts.

Spoiler alert: nobody here has threatened her

[Danvers]

Confused, are you saying there has been anti Semitic speech on this BB? I haven’t seen it… Maybe I misunderstood?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@MHM

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m skeptical of most of what I read from anonymous posters on the internet.

But apparently not IM, for some reason.

I started out extremely skeptical. Over time I have seen zero discrepancies between what IM
has said and verifiable facts. That’s the reason.

[Omgitsme]

He served her an eviction notice. It hadn’t been entered into court files but I’m told that’s common, especially when tensions are high.

ETA: often the first step is to serve the notice, give tenants a chance to respond, then file with the court.

[trubandloki]

@Knights_Mom

It’s not the first time I’ve been smeared but that’s OK as I know I’ve been pretty much correct all along. I’ve just been a pain in the a$$ for them all along when I tell of things like treble damages, etc.

If the thread goes like all the others, smearing you means you are too right so the only option is to make fun of you.

@Fat_Dinah

Bilinkas’ facilitating communication with Barisone

I can not figure out how this is a negative?
Tilting my head sideways and squinting, and it even still looks like something that there is no way to find a negative.

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

LOL. I predicted he would be found “guilty” or NGI. One or the other.

You were wrong on the Guilty part. I was not. Nor was I wrong about jurisdictional issues and subpoenas, the meaning of extortion, libel, treble damages etc etc

Pesky, eh?

And… you know how to vacuum cool patterns in the floor!

@CurrentlyHorseless

Exactly. That was an excellent option that he could have taken, but didn’t.

And hopefully no one else does so they are not at risk of going thru the same torture. He clearly did not know ahead of time what those two were capable of. Now that their actions have been exposed we can only hope all the trainers and barn owners say no when asked if they can go there.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@Omgitsme

I haven’t seen anyone threaten to harm LK though I will admit I skim some of the longer posts.

Spoiler alert: nobody here has threatened her

Hasn’t threatened her physically?

Isn’t it obvious that the plan for the indefinite future is more of the bashing that’s gone on for the past 2.5 years?

[BrendaJane]

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Now that allegations of ‘anti-Semitic hate speech’ have been thrown out there, and people have gotten REALLY upset about how ‘baseless’ allegations concerning ‘accusations’ about mafia ties (uhhh… they were merely questions) have made it into the discussion on this thread, I thought I would go back to yesterday’s conversation and quote the genesis of all this drama.

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@Omgitsme

I did hear a rumor/gossip that he once said, “if I ever go missing look at LK” though that was years ago and I can’t prove the validity of it.

Interesting.

Why is everyone so afraid of JK? Is he really that intimidating of a person? Does he have connections to ‘organized’ type of people in N.J.?

The ‘organized’ people are still a thing in parts of NY, NJ and Philadelphia. I mentioned earlier a family member who works in the area for an Italian owned company (multigenerational family business) that does indeed have some ties. The company also has a lot of legitimate lines of business. But… people definitely pause, and are careful about business disagreements… there is an intimidation factor involved, for sure.

At this point, I got the following response to me simply wondering why everyone was so terrified of JK… and if he had ties to organized crime in the area… (sorry - I haven’t figured out how to do the multi post quote thing on the current forum software).

“There is no outright stated reason why people are afraid of JK, but I would assume that he rants and raves about suing people like his daughter does, so that might be it. On the other hand, his only known employer (EF Hutton) was involved with the region’s organized crime and their money laundering in the heyday of the firm, when he was known to be working for them and the Jewish community in the area is rife with organized crime groups, some of whom give the Mafia a run for it’s Cannollis and who have the same structure. According to the FBI/DOJ there is also a massive money moving/laundering apparatus operating in the Jewish communities that moves funds to and from the US to Israel, Russia, the UK, and any country with a Jewish population that requires off-the-books cash, especially the ones with lots of money lenders that lend to the Orthodox Jewish communities. That’s something you can read up on elsewhere.”

Soooo… people can make of this what they will. I still am befuddled as to why people are so outraged… no one said that ALL Italian people or ALL Jewish people in NJ are involved in organized crime. Nor that ALL employees of EF Hutton were gangsters.

There’s a lot of straw men gathered on this thread at this point, who are getting righteously flogged.

[Omgitsme]

“Bashing” isn’t the same thing threatening.
Bashing: you suck and I hate you.
Threatening: I’m going to make you wish you were never born.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Omgitsme

He served her an eviction notice. It hadn’t been entered into court files but I’m told that’s common, especially when tensions are high.

ETA: often the first step is to serve the notice, give tenants a chance to respond, then file with the court.

Yes. He took the first step on Aug 6. He shot her midday on Aug 7. Is that the way a legal eviction is supposed to work?

[eggbutt]

I have a sincere question for @Seeker1…were you a warm and caring person to Joey Staagard after the vile, truly disgusting things your daughter said on social media about her? Did you sit around at family gatherings away from the home, along with family friend @Inigo-montoya, laughing and making fun of her and her desperate attempts to stop your daughter??? Always deflecting responsibility, right?

[BrendaJane]

well, you know why.
Caught with their compliments down, they are throwing sand now.

[jaj]

You keep doing this. It really is offensive. You are speculating based on ethnicity and religion. That’s not cool.