Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[arktos19]

I respect your bada$$ Greek family I am mostly Eastern European and Scots Irish, but I married into an Italian family with significant criminal ties to the old mob structure in my city. Even though I divorced the jerk I keep my married name with the vowel at the end and whatever stigma (not noticed) since it is associated with most of my professional career.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@Danvers

UGH! It’s like everyone has a chip on their shoulder… you can’t speak facts any more with out offending someone… it is exaugsting

No kidding.

God forbid you actually mention anything personal about your own family having worked for a “connected” company in a certain region of the country that involving a specific community… and how you actually have first hand knowledge that this sort of thing actually still exists…

Because all of a sudden, the outrage police are ALL OVER YOU, claiming you are trafficking in baseless stereotypes. Sheesh.

And I didn’t even get a chance to get to my other stories about my Irish relatives from Boston, or my really tough Greek family from tough parts of Western Massachusetts… Pittsfield in particular.

Anyone willing to clutch some pearls over Pittsfield? Any outrage about that region of the country, and a specific community who have last names ending in vowels, followed by the letter s? And does first hand knowledge matter? Or is it still baseless slander if you speak about firsthand knowledge?

The first hand knowledge was not the problem.

There is no basis for bringing up, even in question form, the idea that JK might possibly have mob ties just because he was one of 18,000 employees of EF Hutton in the eighties, when 2 (count ‘em, 2) Hutton brokers in Providence laundered some money for some “businessmen”.

There was nothing there. But the hate speech issue is that in the discussion or innocent “questions” concerning JKs employer being fined because two of its brokers laundered money, JKs national origin and religious affiliation has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

[ekat]

Ok I’m kinda bummed about the gyro thing. Maybe it’s like French Toast though. I’ve learned some interesting food trivia today.

My sister lives in MA, but not in Pittsfield. Next time I go visit her, I’m going to need tips on where to find the good stuff. There is a dearth of good Greek food out here in the Southwestern desert.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

OK, enlighten me. How did she supposedly threaten him, beyond saying “I’ll only train with you in NJ if you throw in housing like last year”. Which, BTW, is called “negotiating”.

I dunno…can you enlighten me as to why she sent an email/text to JK/RG about being able to access the office and could forge signatures and contracts and “whatever they needed to do”?

Nope, I have no intel on that.

You hinted that you could imagine how she could “threaten him” into giving her the apartment, and I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on that.

Pretty sure I said the defense hinted at it and not that I was imagining things.

Yeah, you said that the defense hinted at a threat. Did you understand the hint? I didn’t.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yeah, you said that the defense hinted at a threat. Did you understand the hint? I didn’t.

Of course you didn’t.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@ekat

And yet, MB a was able to handle all of that until someone wrote a manifesto and launched a plan to “finish the bastard”.

I know you’re never going to look at it from that side, and that’s cool, you do you. But there’s a whole world of people, not just on this forum, that had no dog in this trial, knew nothing about the parties whatsoever, that were dumbfounded by the “victim” in this case. People with no knowledge whatsoever beyond what was presented in trial commenting all over a lot of other social media, legal forums, etc…that saw what the jury saw. That his breakdown was caused by her.

THIS

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

There is no basis for bringing up, even in question form, the idea that JK might possibly have mob ties just because he was one of 18,000 employees of EF Hutton in the eighties, when 2 (count ‘em, 2) Hutton brokers in Providence laundered some money for some “businessmen”.

I’m not allowed to ask a question on a public forum? Since when?

And let’s review PRECISELY what the verboten question was… just for the sake of clarity …

My EXACT question was:

“Why is everyone so afraid of JK? Is he really that intimidating of a person? Does he have connections to ‘organized’ type of people in N.J.?”

ETA: I apologize in advance if any people of German origin were offended by my use of the word ‘verboten’.

[SillyHorse]

For those who were unfamiliar with Michael Barisone prior to the trial, and a lovely reminder for those of us who know he is a kind man with a great sense of humor:

Stephen Colbert on Dressage

[SillyHorse]

Compare the man in the video above with the man sitting in the courtroom. It’s heartbreaking.

[ekat]

My dad was German. Lots of things in my life were verboten.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

There is no basis for bringing up, even in question form, the idea that JK might possibly have mob ties just because he was one of 18,000 employees of EF Hutton in the eighties, when 2 (count ‘em, 2) Hutton brokers in Providence laundered some money for some “businessmen”.

I’m not allowed to ask a question on a public forum? Since when?

And let’s review PRECISELY what the verboten question was… just for the sake of clarity …

My EXACT question was:

“Why is everyone so afraid of JK? Is he really that intimidating of a person? Does he have connections to ‘organized’ type of people in N.J.?”

ETA: I apologize in advance if any people of German origin were offended by my use of the word ‘verboten’.

Except that you also made references to a Jewish mafia in NJ. The Kanarek family is Jewish and lives in NJ. Why emphasize the presence of a Jewish mafia in NJ if the likelihood that he has “connections” to organized crime has nothing to do with his being Jewish?

Consider a 70 year old lawyer of no particular religion, maybe agnostic, who lived in New Jersey and worked for EF Hutton in the eighties.

Would you point out that Jewish organized crime is a thing in New Jersey and say “Does he have connections to ‘organized’ type of people in N.J.?

[SillyHorse]

I think it’s time to

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@ekat

My dad was German. Lots of things in my life were verboten.

Not much was forbidden in my family. But I did have a grandparent who would scream and hit children over the head, and tell them that “x y or z was “ skatá .”

I learned that word about a decade before I learned “ Se agapó .”

Old world immigrant families and communities can be tough.

[RND]

@MorganSercu

I can find George Morris, but I can’t find Mary Haskins’s.

I think she’s got a name that isn’t Haskins or Gray but I don’t know what it is. I think it came up in the very early days of the trial. Maybe it’s under that name?

[eggbutt]

@FitzE

Conversely, seems like a ‘body shaming’ complaint to SS about LK is in order, no?

This hasn’t worked in the past. LK and “Nellie/Gerdie” had a grand guffaw on FB several years ago ridiculing a well known instructor in the area with serious health issues at the time causing painful swelling and weight gain. They laughed about her not being able to hide behind a jumbo 747 and might need a wrecker to get up from a chair. Of course there were also quite a few “likes and laughs” on their fun, very hurtful posts. SS was not interested.

I do find it interesting how USEF/SS has turned a blind eye toward the many, many reports about Lauren. Imagine what would have been prevented if only they had acted responsibly at the time.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Except that you also made references to a Jewish mafia in NJ, and made references to his being Jewish and living in NJ, as if those things are related

Please go back and review the relevant posts. And then retract your inaccurate accusation.

I said absolutely ZERO about the Kanarek family’s ethnic/religious background. That was a different poster.

What I did say about Jewish mafia in NJ?

Let me quote it for you…

“I got a frustrated response earlier on these threads when I brought up Italian American owned companies in that area of the country and organized crime.

The fact is, in certain parts of the North East, organized crime is still very real. And it has deep ties to both Italian and Jewish communities in New Jersey.

This is not meant to disparage entire ethnic communities. Not at all. But some people are indeed ‘connected.’ “

[ekat]

I hear you. My grandparents were TOUGH. I don’t remember my great-grandparents but they were the ones who immigrated here. Luckily, my dad was more of a softie. But still, verboten was something we heard often. Plus dummkopf. But we also got a lot of ich liebe dich

[enjoytheride]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Gyro is not REAL Greek food. At least according to the people I know.

But spanakopita? Oh yeah. I can tell you who’s family makes the BEST spanakopita in all of Western Mass, and a few states to the north

You can keep your dry Spanakopita and hand over the Dolmaldes. ALL OF THEM.

My Greek grandfather lives in a small town in Ohio owned by the mob. The food is delicious. (waits for outrage).

[MHM]

That episode was the one that turned me from a casual Colbert watcher into a lifelong fan.

[Knights_Mom]

@enjoytheride

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Gyro is not REAL Greek food. At least according to the people I know.

But spanakopita? Oh yeah. I can tell you who’s family makes the BEST spanakopita in all of Western Mass, and a few states to the north

You can keep your dry Spanakopita and hand over the Dolmaldes. ALL OF THEM.

My Greek grandfather lives in a small town in Ohio owned by the mob. The food is delicious. (waits for outrage).

I’m outraged.

LOL didn’t want to keep you waiting long!