If you look at the Safe Sport suspension/banned list it is clear what Safe Sport infractions will result in disciplinary action.
There is no one on the Safe Sport list for having misdemeanor charges against them stemming from their personal life and not involving child abuse. That’s not what Safe Sport does.
Would it depend on whether the other person (even if a spouse) is a member of the USEF? Maybe, even if the person is a spouse, what if they are an amateur rider, or an employee of the business that operates under USEF rules, etc.? I could see how your personal business could get mired in your horse business.
I don’t know.
Looking at the Safe Sport suspension/banned list it seems to me that sexual relationships or crimes against minors are the major focus of Safe Sport, as well as intimate relationships with a power imbalance. Those seem a world away from a misdemeanor battery charge that doesn’t involve a student or employee.
I don’t see anyone on that list for a misdemeanor charge involving a spouse.
I know of someone on there for patronizing a prostitute. That had nothing to do with the sport at all.
It doesn’t matter if it has to do with the sport if the crime is sexual in nature. How hard is this to understand? If people can’t keep their sexual impulses in the legal realm, they aren’t a great bet to coach kids or young adults.
Yikes. Which person is it on the list that you know (if they are on the list it is public knowledge) and was the offense of patronizing a prostitute a felony (minor or sex trafficked individual?) If they are suspended or banned by Safe Sport (and thus USEF) due to being busted for a misdemeanor John soliciting a adult prostitute Safe Sport violation, I’d be surprised, but not disappointed. 
I did not say I know him. I do not know him. I know someone whose relative was coached by him. Misdemeanor, no child abuse involved, and not related to his sport. If you look on SafeSport, I think it just says “criminal disposition” or something to that effect.
Personally, other than a traffic ticket, I think criminal activity should be a bannable offense. I think there’s someone on there for multiple DUIs as well… but cannot remember who. I saw that one on something that group AES? put out.
Got it. However, as I mentioned, Safe Sport isn’t patient with people who can’t keep their sexual urges to the legal side, and so, understandably, would not be tolerant of a children’s coach who visits prostitutes and is arrested for doing so.
Again, very far from the subject of this thread.
Well, there’s always Barisone. Not sexual in nature at all.
I don’t think it can be simplified the way you’re doing it.
That situation still involved a student and shooting someone is a pretty serious offense. It’ll be interesting to see if he comes off the SafeSport list sometime in the future.
I understand, personally. I’m just countering the idea that SafeSport is only for crimes that are sexual in nature.
My understanding is of how SafeSport operates is that they evaluate any allegation of misconduct that’s reported to them, decide if the individual poses a risk to the minors they come in contact with, and issue ineligibility based on that decision. Even if the crime isn’t sexual in nature, they could still decide the person poses a risk to their minor students - or not.
I hope the fella that accidentally shot the horse when he was actually aiming at his son (?) landed on that list, too.
Ali Nilforushan comes to mind. He was suspended and articles were published about " allegations of misconduct ". That misconduct was allegations of verbal harassment, stemming from a 5min discussion at a horse show bar between adults. The temp suspension was removed a couple weeks later after multiple individuals came forward that witnessed the conversation. Last I heard Ali was suing SafeSport for the incident.
SafeSport can temporarily suspend for anything, even non-sexual crimes and allegations. As @initiate1987 said above, they then will do the investigation and determine whether there is a risk and determine eligibility from there.
Just to clarify - this is NOT me sharing an opinion on Safesports effectiveness, procedure, or anything of that sort. Just sharing a known example of someone getting temporarily suspended due to non-sexual crimes.
Text below is from the SafeSport code. Any criminal charge/disposition can be considered, but different crimes may result in different sanctions (which can range from a warning letter to permanent ineligibility).
"IX Prohibited Conduct
A. Criminal Charge or Disposition
It is a violation of the Code for a Participant to have a Criminal Charge or Disposition. Criminal Conduct is relevant to an individual’s fitness to participate in sport. The age of a Criminal Charge or Disposition is not relevant to whether a violation of the Code occurred, but may be considered for sanctioning purposes.
Definitions
a. Criminal Disposition
It is a violation of the Code for a Participant to be or have been subject to any disposition or
resolution of a criminal proceeding, other than an adjudication of not guilty, including, but not
limited to: an adjudication of guilt or admission to a criminal violation, a plea to the charge or a
lesser included offense, a plea of no contest, any plea analogous to an Alford or Kennedy plea, the disposition of the proceeding through a diversionary program, deferred adjudication,
deferred prosecution, disposition of supervision, conditional dismissal, juvenile delinquency
adjudication, or similar arrangement.
b. Criminal Charge, including Warrant for Arrest
It is a violation of the Code for a Participant to have any pending criminal charge(s) or warrant(s)
for arrest."
If the issue is sexual in nature it need not have anything to do with the sport, or a student, that is the point, not that Safe Sport is for sexual crimes only.
Obviously being arrested for shooting your student is a Safe Sport matter, so would be punching your student in the face or bullying them.
I wonder whatever happened to the trainer that shot the horse out from under his son?
I take all charges during divorce proceedings with a large helping of salt after my ex-SIL charged my brother with domestic violence and child abuse. Shortly after that her lawyer sent a message that she would drop the charges for $$$. My brother fought the charges and was acquitted, but it was sobering that she could wreak such havoc in his life. For several months he was only allowed supervise visits with his boys, was not allowed in his house, and cost him thousands of dollars in legal bills.
Turned out my SIL had a problem with taking other peoples’ money, including her ex-employer from whom she embezzled, and my mother, from whom she stole. It all came out in the trial and left her credibility in question.
Thank you, that’s how I read it. There was someone that the group opposing SafeSport mentioned being suspended for multiple DUIs. I don’t recall the name or even the sport… so unsure if that’s true. I could see that being an issue though if you’re going to be responsible for kids.
I don’t know if I’d trust someone who committed assault or battery to coach children either.
Seriously? So no one can ever “pay their debt” to society?
This brings another thread to mind. Don’t children have parents to make decisions for and keep them safe? why do regulatory bodies have to do it?? /s
ETA: sorry, I completely missed your sarcasm indicator.
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