She would have deleted it anyways…as she deleted the original questioner’s further comment when she responded “retired from competition”
Can someone please explain to me why the Registry(s) hasn’t suspended this breeder?
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Updates from anyone? Has anyone DNA tested a foal this year yet? Has anyone gotten anywhere with compensation from Corinne or even been able to get in touch with her at all (I’m being ignored so curious if anyone gets a response from her).
Check your inbox.
I have been attending to personal things and couldn’t follow up on this. I pm’d a couple of posters today.
Is there any 2018 foal produced from fresh semen that is DNA tested so far?
certainly by now the registry has made a statement or decision.
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I wonder what Capone’s status for WFFS is. Or that of his stand in. Since that has been a hot topic recently.
To everyone affected by this, I am so sorry. I can’t even imagine. It’s more than just money.
Thanking God for unanswered prayers… I wanted international quality fresh semen for a Tb jumper mare in 2016. Mare was approved Hanoverian, he was not. CS was very professional and although I knew the stallion’s history, I was anxious to plunk down the $2500 fee. I spent more than that on crappy frozen from Europe and beat myself up when she did not get pregnant for not wanting to have the mare inspected with a different registry Thank you AHHA for saving me a lot of grief.
Poor Capone.
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Whoaaaa…I need this book
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And now you can write a sequel to the first book. Poor Capone is right! 
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It has consumed my day.
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Just got my DNA test back today and our new filly is sired by Capone !. We are very pleased!
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They did. Check the recent posts up above. I just read the 1st 8 chapters and my mind is blown. I need to buy the book now, what a story.
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Congrats ! Did you use fresh or frozen semen ?
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Not to be totally off-topic, but a recent post to an Arabian sport horse FB group I subscribe to has a lovely bay yearling Cartel daughter for sale [Cartel (Capone 1 x Sundown Blue Northern) out of Wotan Freiin St (Consul / Argentinus)]. Registered KWPN-NA (cannot be registered as part-Arab); located in Canada. (No idea if Cartel was the intended sire, but the filly is quite a looker and very solidly built - noted as currently standing 15.0.)
How could a Cartel foal be registered KWPN-NA? I’m not familiar with the specifics of their rules, and how their studbooks work. I do know for other open book registries… GOV, Westfalen NA, and ARS, that a foal from an approved mare would possibly be eligible for a COP (and white papers). Do they mean something similar to that.
Part Arabian requires a full Arabian parent. Cartel is only 50% himself, so the foals can’t be registered that way. But I think the Arabian Sporthorse Alliance does have an awards program which extends to horses that are 25% Arab.
Personally, I’m willing to bet some of these foals turn out to be awesome, fun riding horses. A horrible situation for the mare owners who were duped, I don’t mean to take anything away from that. But I’m really curious about what these babies end up looking like and what they end up doing under saddle.
Probably Register B, which is essentially a COP. Neither parent needs approval for Register B with KWPN.
Probably Register B with KWPN.
Since the mods removed my post for having two words that I did not know were not allowed, the above posts (135 & 136) responding to mine make little sense.
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Disclaimer: THIS IS NOT MY HORSE. It was a post that came across my FB feed from a group I am a member of, and I thought the information would be of interest to those in this particular thread.
My post was in regard to someone having a yearling filly by Cartel that looks very nice and is out of a Hanoverian mare. My post was meant to be in regard to whether anyone had concerns about potential quality of Cartel get (in the event the semen they got was not Capone 1). I do not know if the owner bred to Cartel specifically, or bred a mare thinking they were breeding to Capone 1 and ended up with Cartel semen.
The filly (according to that person’s post) is registered KWPN-NA. I am an Arab owner and know nothing about the KWPN registry, so any questions about where/how the filly is registered would have to be addressed to the filly’s owner (Google is your friend 
). With Arabs, unless it is Anglo-Arab (can be as little as 1/4 Arab-3/4 TB), the horse cannot be registered with AHA in their part-Arab registry. (The only other part-Arab breed registry that has allowed less than 1/2 Arab-1/2 Other is the National Show Horse Registry (1/4 Arab-3/4 Saddlebred).) My previous post noted the fact that the filly unfortunately cannot registered as a part-Arab because she is only 1/4 Arab (her other 3/4 not being either TB or SB).
FWIW - My understanding of the Arabian Sport Horse Alliance is that it is a support & education organization, not a registration organization - and works in coordination with the Arabian Horse Assn, North American Shagya-Arabian Society and the Performance Shagya-Arabian Registry to promote Arabian/Part-Arabian sport horses and sport horse events. I would think that any Arabian/Part-Arabian/Shagya-Arabian-specific awards programs the Alliance has would need to track the horses from those registries. Whether they have other awards programs, that I do not know.
