Can I copy and share this? I remember the Anky days. Charlotte is the one who turned that all around.
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I was with you until this final paragraph. You seem to be arguing for the video not to have been released so that it doesnât hurt the sport. You seem to have a lot of anger towards the PETA activists.
But the people endangering the existence of these sports in the modern world are the people like CP, MT, and CDJ wielding the whips and branches and beating the animals, not the people releasing the videos.
Unless your point is the sport can only survive if everyone agrees to keep the silence and not publicly expose any of this behaviour. And thatâs going backwards, not forwards.
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I would watch the video before doing so, if you havenât.
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Facebook link. This is a story, and I believe will disappear in 24 hours, has anyone downloaded or screen recorded it?
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?id=858789758&story_fbid=10162054889064759
Also a link on post 259, but some people cannot get it to open.
https://www.itv.com/watch/news/olympian-charlotte-dujardin-admits-error-of-judgement-as-horse-whip-video-emerges/cn1rn9d
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Please watch the video. It is NOT tapping a horse repeatedly on the legs. It is NOT standard piaffe/passage training.
It is whacking the shite out of horse in canter with a LONGE whip (not an in-hand whip) sometimes with the force of both arms.
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I havenât read any hat eating, just recriminations against the rider and her mother.
Perhaps not.
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Fairfax has dropped her as well.
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done!
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Looks like web updating people are being kept busy this morning. Looks like sheâs gone from a bunch of sponsor pages and her own âpartnersâ page is empty.
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And cheaters in other equestrian disciplinesâŠ
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No need to. Itâs been posted on Youtube, where it will stay (a guess) indefinitely.
It can be slowed down to 25% speed if in doubt about double-handed and chest whipping. Sheâs not hesitating, thatâs for sure. Gross and shameful.
Link:
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Some key clarifications made by the Dutch lawyer, Stephan Wensing:
âMy client insists the video was filmed two and a half years ago, not four as in Charlotte Dujardinâs statement,â he said. âThat wouldâve been impossible because the whole world was locked down due to the pandemic.â
He added that the girl riding the horse in the video is not in any way involved in raising the official complaint.
âMy client is the one who sponsored the lesson and is filming. The girl on the horse in the lesson has nothing to do with it,â said Mr Wensing. âMy client was a former student of Charlotte Dujardin and had been to her barn a couple of times and had noticed what she now considers abuse.
âBut at the time she was thinking, âCharlotte is a superstar, sheâs the best rider in the world, so she knows what sheâs doing â this must be normalâ.
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I am incredibly disappointed and disgusted by this video.
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Iâve lost all hope at this point. The person videoing is laughing? Can you imagine the pain of being whipped? Every person who whips a horse really should experience a lashing just like they are doing to that poor horse.
This is all NO different than the Tennessee Walkers, the rodeo, the QH pleasure people, the Arabians, the jumpers caning them over jumps and all the other abuse out there. These dear, beautiful creatures deserve so much more and people absolutely suck. I never, ever ever thought Iâd see someone like Charlotte do something like this.
My watching or interest in competitive dressage is over.
And I plan to share on Facebook and go public with my opinions. Loudly.
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Oops, sorry, Annie. I didnât mean to reply to you.
When I read on here of experience and revered dressage riders, teachers and trainers suddenly âlosing itâ I end up wondering WHY this happens.
Many years ago I came up with a hypothesisâthat too much sitting trot is bad for the ridersâ brains and spinal cords. Eventually the bruises of the pre-frontal cortex repeatedly hitting the skull and the brain stem and spinal cord repeatedly âtearingâ at the spinal cord all add up and that person can change from being a good rider to being an abusive rider.
I have MS. I ALREADY have lesions on my brain and spinal cord. Nowadays I refuse to go more than 6 strides of the sitting trot on horses with decent sitting trots, on the horses with super stuff backs I refuse to âsitâ more than 3 strides of the sitting trot.
I am glad that TBIs are now acknowledged to be a danger from falling off a horse. Maybe we should also acknowledge that the repeated brain and spinal cord trauma from doing a lot of sitting trot is also bad for human beingsâ brains.
I know that dressage riders may not believe me about this. I really do not care as I will go on trying to protect my brain and spinal cord while riding horses. But I think that many dressage riders would benefit from stopping slamming their pre-frontal cortexes against the rigid skull.
And no, I donât have any proof. I just came up with this hypothesis back in the days of Rollkur as an âexplanationâ of why so many otherwise good horsewomen all of a sudden started abusing their horses with Rollkur, contrary to the writings of just about every leading dressage rider for the last few centuries.
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I dont agree with the PETA activists agendas. Their agendas are to remove all equine sport.
I agree with releasing the video footage but not with the intention of removing the competition. It shouldâve been aired long before now for the welfare of the horses. But I do not think that is the intention of those that owned said video and that is just as sick.
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I actually wrote this! I just lurk here to keep up with Horse Drama so imagine my surprise to see my FB post mentioned 
Hereâs a better link for those interested (rather than a search link): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10161248562968189
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The video is ugly and the way she is somewhat mindless about the beating it seems to quite clearly have happened because she has lost her patience and cool. From the video it looks like the kid is hanging on to the reins and riding front to back and sheâs trying to get the horse to move forward and activate the hind but it obviously was not the right move here and looks horrible.
THAT SAID if the crop is like any of the other plastic longing crops Iâve ever owned and is not some adapted version with an actual heavy rope with knots to it (think a carrot stick), it makes a lot of sound, looks horrible and wraps around the legs but is pretty damn ineffective to even cause a serious bruise let alone welts. I may just happen to know this because Iâve been chased like that as a teenager by a coach with his horse before and ended up taking it instead of the horse.
The way they beat them during a race at the track or sometimes outside of the arena on the butt to a point it leaves welts is FAR more painful and inhumane. If you are really trying to take it out on a horse the lunging crop would be bottom of my list tools, similar to taking the reins and smacking them on the shoulder - a lot of visual drama for surprisingly little effect.
Iâm not saying any of this to justify her BTW. Itâs a terrible look for the sport and I think she will pay dearly for it as will dressage as an industry. But I think what really will happen next time is that (if there is a clinic) an Olympic rider will ask the kid with the horse behind the leg to wear spurs with spikes instead because itâs a better look.
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