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Lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit.
. . .
Seriously, I saw an article not too long ago about a poll that indicated that 85% of people feel that there will be something that happens in their lifetime that would justify a big enough lawsuit to make them wealthy. Accurate? I hope not, but it still boggles the mind.[/QUOTE]
Sigh. Can you provide a cite to the poll, please? Like you, I doubt its accuracy, and I’d be really interested to know who wrote such a thing.
I did. I took the poll in a Wal-mart parking lot. Seems to be working , eh? They al lbeleive in our majikal powers to make them rich now!
I haven’t a clue, didn’t save it.
I would have said the number was very small. I don’t actually know anyone who has ever sued anyone.:sigh:
But I do know people who have been sued for bogus reasons. Guess I haven’t done the math.
“There has been some kidding on this thread about paint balls and such, but you have to have a sense of humor to see that it was kidding.”
Has that Rancher person said they were kidding. I honestly believe them to have been serious
Why would you “honestly believe” something typed from someone you do not know and have never met?
I happen to know Rancher…in real life. She adores children, her own children and most of the children in her town. Heck, she babysits for probably half the children in her town. :winkgrin:
Would she shoot a kid? I’m guessing no…I know her IRL and she’s not the “shoot the kid!” type. She does have a temper when it comes to annoying people…but I don’t see her shooting anyone.
I can say in person to people, “One of these days I’m going to shoot my husband!” because he does tend to get the tractor stuck in the manure pile…making me have to chain-haul it out and then spend time washing the shite out of the frame. Am I really going to shoot him? Hell no, I adore that man. And shooting him would make for a hella lot of paperwork. (tongue in cheek typing…see?)
The pre-teen was atrocious…she chained dogs to a post and left them there, didn’t tell her gran where the dogs were or that they were safe even though the gran was obviously upset, mouthed off to the OP, was more than old enough to know not to trespass or chase horses, came back sneakily when told not to trespass, then came back again a second time and tore down her fencing in retaliation for being told to leave.
Seriously…you’re more worried about what people are typing tongue in cheek (I don’t know the person who stated to chase the child into a huge live trap but I’m pretty confident typing that that was also tongue in cheek sicne only an insane person would believe that) rather than the legal repercussions of what this youngster could cause? Yes, some children are abused. Not all though and it’s a tad nuts to assume that a pre-teen acting bratty automatically means the child is being abused. Or that people joking about live-trapping the youngster or paint-balling them are child abusers.
And FWIW…overly intelligent 12 year olds do not normally “act up” because they’re smart and bored. This is what happens with overly smart dogs…who don’t get enough stimulation. Not humans who are smarter than average at the age of 12.
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Again with Facinated’s “poooorrrr wiiiittttlllleeee ggiiirrrlll” speal. No one called this brat anything she didn’t disearve or that wasn’t true. And what do you care? She didn’t hear or read any of it, she didn’t know of it, and it didn’t do any damage to her.
And “little girl” is a misnomer - she is around 12 years old. She’s almost a teenager and old enough to know better or to be taught -very quckly - about respect for other’s property and animals.
I’m still shocked and amazed that you continue to defend someone that you a) don’t know, b) won’t ever have contact with, c) has done things that would get adults arrested immediately, d) has no empathy as she let her grandmother suffer worrying about her dogs, and e) OBVIOUSLY premeditated everything she did, as she LIED to her gran about walking the dogs and instead went to cause trouble.
I really hope you never reproduce. Your spawn will apparently get away with anything and everything they do. God forbid you abuse them by disciplining them, right?? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Refresh my memory. Where have I defended the child’s behavior?
You implied that the reason for the brat’s behavior was the OP’s anti-social personality, which you had absolutely no basis to comment on and makes absolutely no difference in the outcome.
You advocated every avenue but something that may actually fix the problem and keep the girl away from the OP’s property. “Talk to her parents before doing anything else” - well, obvioulsy they’re worthless when it comes to setting boundaries.
You don’t have to stand on a rooftop yelling “THE GIRL IS INNOCENT” to defend her. You have continuously taken the indefensible position of blaming everything and everyone in this girl’s life for her behavior.
When is she old enough to own up? What if she were 13? What if she were 21? Would she be old enough to be responsible for her actions then?
I vote that when she’s old enough to mouth off to an adult and then premeditate revenge, she’s old enough to be punished for the things she does. And HARSHLY.
[QUOTE=MSUteamrider;3375856]
You implied that the reason for the brat’s behavior was the OP’s anti-social personality, which you had absolutely no basis to comment on and makes absolutely no difference in the outcome.
You advocated every avenue but something that may actually fix the problem and keep the girl away from the OP’s property. “Talk to her parents before doing anything else” - well, obvioulsy they’re worthless when it comes to setting boundaries.
You don’t have to stand on a rooftop yelling “THE GIRL IS INNOCENT” to defend her. You have continuously taken the indefensible position of blaming everything and everyone in this girl’s life for her behavior.
When is she old enough to own up? What if she were 13? What if she were 21? Would she be old enough to be responsible for her actions then?
I vote that when she’s old enough to mouth off to an adult and then premeditate revenge, she’s old enough to be punished for the things she does. And HARSHLY.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be crediting me with saying, and thinking things I never said or thought. I did say to talk to her parents, but my reasoning was that it would reduce the risk to the OP of being prosecuted for threatening, or harming the child. Assault is a good charge to avoid, especialy when a minor is involved. Beyond that show me a quote to support your argument against me.
I think the thing that skews the numbers is that the few people who actually do sue, will sue a LOT. Anybody. At the drop of a hat. For any reason.
I know of one family where the mother and daughter were involved in something like four different lawsuits between them. At the same time. Four totally unrelated matters- the only common factor was that these people saw an opportunity to get a financial settlement, and they went after it. Four times. That I knew of, during a short period.
I tried to stay far away from them.
Again, best of luck to the OP.
Oh, for cryin’ out loud, fascinated. Get over yourself and your preoccupation of defending all your [edit] comments. You are certainly unfascinating to most of us - I say let’s call it a day and hope OP and Granny can sort out the li’l darlin’. Sadly, school is not in for another month or so - yikes!!!
I’ll say it: The kid is a sociopath.
Nice 11, 12 or 13 year old girls do not chase horses with sticks and they do not mouth off at adults. Not even understimulated highly intelligent girls. I know this because I have highly intelligent girls who span that age range and when they are bored and told to entertain themselves they certainly do not do so by going to the barn and chasing horses with sticks, nor do they “walk” the dogs by tying them up and then wandering off to terrorize the neighbors. This is antisocial and unacceptable behavior by any stretch of the imagination and making excuses for it is just wrong. I don’t care what kind of family life the girl had, by that age she certainly knows right from wrong and how animals should be treated. This is the kind of behavior that will only escalate if it isn’t nipped in the bud.
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Oh, for cryin’ out loud, fascinated. Get over yourself and your preoccupation of defending all your idiotic comments. You are certainly unfascinating to most of us - I say let’s call it a day and hope OP and Granny can sort out the li’l darlin’. Sadly, school is not in for another month or so - yikes!!![/QUOTE]
I am still trying to find out exactly what the offending comment was. I hope you don’t decide not to breed to my stallion like the other person did.
Breed to your stallion? No, well just send 12 year old girls over to play with him and you can babysit for free:D
:lol::lol::lol:
Oh, forget it.
This farm seems to be a prefered destination for girls aged 4-14 lately. Send them on.
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This farm seems to be a prefered destination for girls aged 4-14 lately. Send them on.[/QUOTE]
Given the tone you have set with this thread that just sounds creepy…
[QUOTE=ToiRider;3375934]
I’ve been waiting all day to find out if you’ve figured out who can be prosecuted yet? What did your team of lawyers tell you?
OOPS, I jumped the gun. It’s still Sunday. I have to wait until tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
I will let you know. I believe that it is a crime to threaten to harm a person over the internet. I think discussing plans and methods to do so might be as well. I am curious to learn if the paint ball advice is considered to be harmless fun. Are you of the opinion that nobody on COTH bb would ever do something rotten to a kid?
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Given the tone you have set with this thread that just sounds creepy…[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol:
[quote=facinated;3373915]Or we have a stuffy old bat who can’t be bothered to get to know her neighbors, and may well be the Wicked Witch of the Cotswald. It is a much better bet that an English horsewoman is an anti social individual, than it is that a little girl is a sociopath.
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[quote=facinated;3374403. On Monday when everything is open I will learn more about if the threats which have been posted against this child are actionable
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[quote=facinated;3374442
My objection here is to the attitude, and ideas that are being suggested by adults, to harm, and scare a child.
The “wicked witch of the cotswald” has said that she has no intention of doing any of those horrible things to the child. The people who would do such things should not be supported in any public forum, especialy one involving the increasingly problematic public perception of animal abuse that we have in the horse world.
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[quote=facinated;3375025]kookikat- the only thing I have said which was directed towards you was my original suggestion, and subsequent acknowledgement of your saying that you had no intention of doing anything cruel to a child. Several other people have recomended horrible tactics, although I did infer from your original post that you did not know yours either. .
You claim to be 24 yrs old, but since you are a witch that is subject to doubt. Besides “young bat” lacks poetic flow.
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The rude comments you have made to the OP are in bold… referring to her as and "stuffy old bat, Wicked witch of Coswald etc when all she did was ask the girl to leave her property and her horses alone and ask for help with how to deal with this situation.
[quote=facinated;3375839]Refresh my memory. Where have I defended the child’s behavior?
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And I believe your defense of the child came when you were saying that is was most likely that the OP was antisocial than the kid being the problem as well as looking to the authorities to see if anything can be done about the “threats” on this forum. Does that help refresh your memory??
[QUOTE=jeta;3375943]
Given the tone you have set with this thread that just sounds creepy…[/QUOTE]
Again you have me confused with someone else. I am the irrational one who is speaking against the people who want to hurt, and scare the child.
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