Child in my pasture- WWYD?

Note to the OP:

Can you have the police test the fence posts for fingerprints BEFORE the child touches them to put them up? Just so there is absolute proof of her actions, in case you need it later.

Obviously, once she touches the posts to put the fence back up, there will be no fingerprint evidence to verify that she was the vandal who tore down the fence in the first place.

Again, document, document, document.

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Originally Posted by facinated
There is something seriously wrong with the majority of you people.If this woman does not know who her neighbors are, in a rural area, I will bet that if you poll the neighbors you will hear plenty about her.
This is a child, no one knows her name or anything about her yet the venom is spewing. This spitefull tone and attitude towards people works against horse owners every time. If my kid came home and told me that someone had yelled at her, I would find that person and make their life very, very miserable. If my child were at fault I would take responsibility, but nobody is going to get away with going after my child.

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Originally Posted by facinated
Or we have a stuffy old bat who can’t be bothered to get to know her neighbors, and may well be the Wicked Witch of the Cotswald. It is a much better bet that an English horsewoman is an anti social individual, than it is that a little girl is a sociopath.

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Originally Posted by facinated;3374403. [I On Monday when everything is open I will learn more about if the threats which have been posted against this child are actionable[/i]

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Originally Posted by facinated;3374442
My objection here is to the attitude, and ideas that are being suggested by adults, to harm, and scare a child.
[B The “wicked witch of the cotswald” has said that she has no intention of doing any of those horrible things to the child.[/b] The people who would do such things should not be supported in any public forum, especialy one involving the increasingly problematic public perception of animal abuse that we have in the horse world.

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Originally Posted by facinated
kookikat- the only thing I have said which was directed towards you was my original suggestion, and subsequent acknowledgement of your saying that you had no intention of doing anything cruel to a child. Several other people have recomended horrible tactics, although I did infer from your original post that you did not know yours either. .
You claim to be 24 yrs old, but since you are a witch that is subject to doubt. Besides “young bat” lacks poetic flow.

The rude comments you have made to the OP are in bold… referring to her as and "stuffy old bat, Wicked witch of Coswald etc when all she did was ask the girl to leave her property and her horses alone and ask for help with how to deal with this situation.

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Originally Posted by facinated
Refresh my memory. Where have I defended the child’s behavior?

And I believe your defense of the child came when you were saying that is was most likely that the OP was antisocial than the kid being the problem as well as looking to the authorities to see if anything can be done about the “threats” on this forum. Does that help refresh your memory??


The use of the word “if” makes it a question, the word “or” indicates that it is an option. I used the term “wicked witch of the cotswAld” in acknowledging the OP’s statement that she was NOT in agreement with the violent solutions to which I object. The confusion here may result from poor reading comprehension. I believe I said it would be a better bet that the op was anti social than the kid being a sociopath. Based on subsequent postings by the OP, it appears that the longshot won this time. If that analogy went over your head, maybe someone will explain it to you.

For the love of all things holy…facinated, YOU’RE the one who started this train wreck but refuse to accept any responsibility. What part do you not understand…no one wants to hurt or scare a child!!! The only thing scary about this thread is you!

And here I had promised Mod1 I would behave this weekend…I tried, I really did…sorry Mod1

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For the love of all things holy…facinated, YOU’RE the one who started this train wreck but refuse to accept any responsibility. What part do you not understand…no one wants to hurt or scare a child!!! The only thing scary about this thread is you!

And here I had promised Mod1 I would behave this weekend…I tried, I really did…sorry Mod1[/QUOTE]

There are several posts from different people detailing ways to hurt, and scare the child. Paint ball guns, electric fence, vicious dogs, vicious horses, ways to communicate threats, etc. Now everyone but the people who said those things is claiming that they were tongue in cheek comments. My initial posting was what I felt to be good honest advice. The rest was in response to what I see as nasty people saying nasty stuff about a little kid, and I am a big fan of little kids.
I will put in a good word for you with Mod 1 at The Coach Stop tomorrow.

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Again you have me confused with someone else. I am the irrational one who is speaking against the people who want to hurt, and scare the child.[/QUOTE]

Ummm…Ok let me explain this so you will understand where people here are taking issue with your comments…

The TONE of which I refered to in my comment comes from the fact that you don’t seem to GET when someone says something tongue in cheek…You appear to read everyone’s comments as LITERAL… as if the SSS comment was really a possibility. GET A GRIP…

The more you try to dig in your heels to fight for your stance makes you come across as someone who refuses to LISTEN ( what i mean here is READ BETWEEN THE LINES )

The internet can be tough in that inflection isn’t always apparant and misunderstandings can take place…BUT REALLY…This isn’t that difficult…

If you go back and read the quote from which I commented on, if I were to approach this as you seem to I could read into it that you LIKE to have young girls in your presense…Wow takes a different TONE then doesn’t it…

Quite honestly, I assumed you were trolling…guess not…

How exactly does that “ignore” feature work? I’m about ready to try it. :wink:

:lol::lol::lol: Some folks just like to hear themselves typing…

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Ummm…Ok let me explain this so you will understand where people here are taking issue with your comments…

The TONE of which I refered to in my comment comes from the fact that you don’t seem to GET when someone says something tongue in cheek…You appear to read everyone’s comments as LITERAL… as if the SSS comment was really a possibility. GET A GRIP…

The more you try to dig in your heels to fight for your stance makes you come across as someone who refuses to LISTEN ( what i mean here is READ BETWEEN THE LINES )

The internet can be tough in that inflection isn’t always apparant and misunderstandings can take place…BUT REALLY…This isn’t that difficult…

If you go back and read the quote from which I commented on, if I were to approach this as you seem to I could read into it that you LIKE to have young girls in your presense…Wow takes a different TONE then doesn’t it…

Quite honestly, I assumed you were trolling, but I guess you just don’t get it…[/QUOTE]
So I take things too literaly, I should read between the lines, and if you read between the lines like I do I am a pervert for letting my daughter’s friends come over to play. Let me guess. You got a C- in Logic 101.

Logic would suggest to me that if more than 20 people got the same unintended impression from my posts, the fault was not with their reading comprehension, but my writing skills.

Good night, and good luck. :cool:

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Logic would suggest to me that if more than 20 people got the same unintended impression from my posts, the fault was not with their reading comprehension, but my writing skills.

Good night, and good luck. :cool:[/QUOTE]
What impression are you trying to convey? Perhaps if you stick to something you actualy understand you can present your ideas more coherently.

Before you guys get all stirred up over this guys comments…take a quick look at previous insults…I mean posts…
Just because someone has been around a little while doesn’t mean they aren’t a troll. :smiley:

The ‘ignore’ button is under User CP.

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Thanks folks. I’m still reading through the replies but thought I’d post an update now.

I moved the horses from the pasture they where in to one closer to the house. Glad I did because when I went back to the first pasture, all (Every. Single. Post. GRRRR) of my electirc fencing is down. I think she had help to do it, because there’s a lot of posts. I’m going to have to cancel my plans for tomorrow to put them all back up. :mad::mad::mad:

Phoned the police again, who basically said the same as you. Get evidence, ring them if she comes back etc. Because there’s no damage done, there’s nothing they can do about the fencing. If she’d broken something they would have been able to act. I’m not a happy camper, needless to say. :(:(:frowning:

I was talking to my lovely next door farmer too, and he thinks she’s been messing with his cows too. Is it evil to wish he still had his dairy bull to scare some sense into her? :lol::eek::winkgrin:[/QUOTE]

tkae photos its crimnal damage – as in breaking ans entering as post down

have your digital camera with you-- 9 am is when you found her 1st and kids are creatures of habbit-- as more than likely thats when she let out to play all day so is local i presume so keep a cammera nearby and make sure you up and looking before 9am

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Originally Posted by facinated
.If this woman does not know who her neighbors are, in a rural area, I will bet that if you poll the neighbors you will hear plenty about her.

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Originally Posted by facinated
Or we have a stuffy old bat who can’t be bothered to get to know her neighbors, and may well be the Wicked Witch of the Cotswald. It is a much better bet that an English horsewoman is an anti social individual, than it is that a little girl is a sociopath.

The “wicked witch of the cotswald” has said that she has no intention of doing any of those horrible things to the child.[/b] The people who would do such things should not be supported in any public forum, especialy one involving the increasingly problematic public perception of animal abuse that we have in the horse world.

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The use of the word “if” makes it a question, the word “or” indicates that it is an option. I used the term “wicked witch of the cotswAld” in acknowledging the OP’s statement that she was NOT in agreement with the violent solutions to which I object. The confusion here may result from poor reading comprehension. I believe I said it would be a better bet that the op was anti social than the kid being a sociopath. Based on subsequent postings by the OP, it appears that the longshot won this time. If that analogy went over your head, maybe someone will explain it to you.[/QUOTE]

The first statement in which you use the word if is not a question it is a statement as well as an ASSumption. My keen powers of observation noticed that there wasn’t a question mark at the end of the statement which would be proper puncutation for a question. If that bit of English grammar went over your head maybe you can have a 2nd grader explain it to you.

As for the “Wicked witch of the Cotswald” statement the first time you used it was not when you acknowledged the OP’s statement that she’s wasn’t in agreement with the tongue in cheek solutions to her problem but when you were busy insulting her calling her an anti-social individual. Thus doing the same thing to the OP that you are so angry that others are doing about the child ASSuming things about her personality.

You say you can’t comprehend the tongue and cheek suggestions given to the OP for a solution to her problem yet you want to talk down to others saying they have “poor reading comprehension” when you spout the same drivel insulting the OP, and using your “analogies” . And since the definition of an analogy is over YOUR head I will help you:

An analogy is defined as:
a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.
2. similarity or comparability: I see no analogy between your problem and mine.
3. Biology. an analogous relationship.
4. Linguistics. a. the process by which words or phrases are created or re-formed according to existing patterns in the language, as when shoon was re-formed as shoes, when -ize is added to nouns like winter to form verbs, or when a child says foots for feet.
b. a form resulting from such a process.

  1. Logic. a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.
    —Synonyms 1. comparison, likeness, resemblance, similitude, affinity. 2. correspondence.
    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
    Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

A correct analogy would be comparing the way your posts make you look and a horse’s a$$. (See… it is 2 things that are alike…and the saaaammmme… I’m typing slower to help you understand.):winkgrin:

Saying that it was a better bet that the OP was most likely to be the wicked witch and antisocial than the kid being a sosciopath is not an analogy since it is not comparing 2 like things, This is an ASSumption which is defined as…

  1. something taken for granted; a supposition: a correct assumption.
  2. the act of taking for granted or supposing.
  3. the act of taking to or upon oneself.
  4. the act of taking possession of something: the assumption of power.
  5. arrogance; presumption.
  6. the taking over of another’s debts or obligations.
  7. Ecclesiastical. a. (often initial capital letter) the bodily taking up into heaven of the Virgin Mary.
    b. (initial capital letter) a feast commemorating this, celebrated on August 15.

[Origin: 1250–1300; ME assumpcioun, assompcioun, assumsion < L assūmptiōn- (s. of assūmptiō), equiv. to assūmpt(us) taken up (ptp. of assūmere; see assume) + -iōn- -ion]

—Synonyms 1, 2. presupposition. 1. hypothesis, conjecture, guess, postulate, theory. 3. presumption. 5. effrontery, forwardness.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

I hope you can read those definitions for comprehension and it doesn’t go over your overinflated head and ego.

And I don’t see where it matters if the OP is anti-social, or kept to herself, she asked the child to leave, her property was tresspassed upon, and then vandalized too close to the confrontation to be coincidence. Your statements toward the OP have been nothing but inflammatory and uncalled for unless you just like hearing yourself talk, which must be the case because I can’t see anyone else wanting to listen to you talk for very long.

And if you can’t understand that… I’m sure someone will explain it to you.

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um-- i am to presume you feel drawn into a situation becuase you know the gran op and feel awkward so what to do

in the old days people sued to the sent the kid home with a thick ear— not litteraly

we all done stupid things at one point in our lives as this young person has

what you could do, if you wanted to , is give her a 2 weeks in your yard as in work
to make up for the destruction shes caused you

ie teach her a lesson that pays for the xyz
so teach her how to muck out and then if shes good teach her how to groom
and as you have informed the police tell them if you like this is your intention

tell the gran to send her to you at certian times ie 9 till 1am
this would allow the gran some space as shes in a bit of a spot

and this would allow the child to learn not to do it again-- whisle teaching
tell her the implications and the dangers she put herself in

bit like community service type thing but she has to work for it

bit of hard work didnt hurt anyone-- then if at the end of 2 weeks she likes it
go on from there-- asit might be she will come to grans every summer just to help you

oooh and pooh picking is a good place to start-- let her learn values in life

Now THAT is C-R-E-E-E-E-E-P-Y

Says the man who probably drives a non-discript white van and stocks up on candy at Costco or Sams…

Oops there I go ASSuming things again… :winkgrin:

Facinated: I suggest you sign up for a basic spelling class when you go back to school this fall.

Next, try a pinch of discretion and a dollop of humor.

It is so adolescent to take a thread that has nothing - aka NOT A THING - to do with you and turn it into a train wreck.

Now, go grow a sense of humor. Clearly you have ample fertilizer with which to feed it.:yes::cool::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Anyone want to PM with facinated’s identity?

Being in the same state, I’d sure like to steer my daughters away from him should we cross paths at a show (they don’t need “fans” that are strangers)…and certainly I’d like to be cautious when beating them and shooting them with paintballs behind the trailer so he doesn’t catch me! :wink: :lol:

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And thank you for the English lesson. If I had known how to spell “hypothesis” I would have said that my comments were posed as such. I did know how to spell question so I went with that.

If the lady in England was offended by the term “wicked witch of the cotswald” please explain to her that since she does know her neighbors (even better now) that the conditions set forth in the hypothesis have not been met, so she need not order new business cards.

Please get out of here, fascinated. You’re obviously only interested in poking at people, have no clue what you are talking about, and can’t help twisting other people’s words and meanings around to make them somehow all about an argument with you. No one cares about you or your posts. Beat it.