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Please get out of here, fascinated. [/QUOTE]
Sweetie, Sweetie, it’s spelled facinated:rolleyes:
Good to see everyone’s had an enjoyable weekend… 
Let’s all please avoid the personal commentary. It seems to be a universal opinion that the child’s behavior in this situation was inappropriate, and the OP has received lots of advice re: various approaches to address it.
Generally speaking, few people actually “know” each other and the various reasons for posting in virtual BB worlds, so it can be easy to make assumptions or misinterpret humor (from both sides). Add to that a desire to prove a point, and we can get stuck in a downward-spiraling discussion.
If the OP would like to provide further updates on the situation, feel free. In the meantime, please call an end to this “round,” which has gotten increasingly personal. The OP has made contact with the child’s guardians, will be talking with the police and will likely be reporting back with further developments.
We also wanted to clarify that the only contact anyone from the board has with Mod 1 is via email or PM–I’m “Mod 1” for a reason! :winkgrin:
Thanks and good luck to the OP.
I realized my typo only after I posted. I was trying to get back on to edit that and spell her name “correctly” when the website froze and crashed. I only got back to it now, to find your kind corrections.
Apparently the reason she came onto this board was to attack posters on a topic, so her behaviour on this thread isn’t really all that unexpected (from the I dream of no more personal attacks thread):
facinated says: I was first attracted to your bb when I read all the personal attacks on some poor girl who had been killed eventing; and her family. I said it was disgusting and was attacked for saying so. Maybe you should have a rule that if you say something crappy about someone you need to post your home phone # and address.
Oh, okay, sorry, was posting as mod 1 was posting.
Thanks, Mod1! 
Whew…made it thru alllll the posts. My, my, my…how things do go south around here.
Meanwhile, back to the OP:
Glad you found out who she is and who she “belongs” to. Perhaps you can help grandma while grandpa is recuperating and put Poopikins TO WORK! Perhaps in the morning she spends the time cleaning grandma’s bathroom(s), kitchen, vacuuming, dusting, etc. Then the afternoons are at your place doing the fence work, mucking stalls, Paddock Poop Pick Up, etc.
Labor is a good way to keep idle hands occupied. Just ask J Swan about her Auntie J Swam’s boot camp for children. :winkgrin: :lol:
BB Rifle…with a nice scope. :winkgrin:
No, no, no…that would be cruel. Paintball gun would be more humane. :yes:
No really, I’m just kidding. Although I would probably hot wire my fences to all hell and let the little brat get shocked.
I’m not a fan of kids terrorizing my horses. If any stupid bratty kid EVER DARED to come into my pastures and chase my horses they’d be dead. All I could see is one of my babies breaking a leg. If that happened to me and I knew it was the kids fault I’d sue the PANTS off that family. :mad:
Can you tell I’m not a kid person???
Thank goodness!!! The voice of reason!!! Thank you o’ great Mod1 posting from behind the curtain !!!
jaw hits the floor :eek:
I have to add, though, that unless she changed her attitude a whole lot, I would not want her working at my place. We often hire young people (l4-15 y.o.) and believe me, they are often more work than not having them in that they require supervision every inch of the way. Every so often there is a kid who comes back every year and they are a goldmine with their enthusism and reliability and honesty.
Gran’s housework would work fine with me in this instance. To work around horses safely one needs empathy with animals. (stick?)
Foxtrot is right
Foxtrot is right, unless you have a degree in psychology, you don’t want to encourage a troubled child to come to your barn. All those kids who love horses, see the spinoff, are the ones you want to encourage. A child who is sent away by her mother to grandparents, one of whom is very ill (and why doesn’t mom collect her kid now?), is not one that you want in your barn, near your dogs and cats, etc. You want the child that the op has posted about as far away from your barn as possible, perfectably back in the city. Most of us are unqualified to handle children with emotional problems, and it is best not to try to practice psychiatry w/o a license. The op wanted help to prevent the child from harming her horses or turning them out on the roads, and she shouldn’t be responsible for this child, the kid’s parents should be, both physically and legally.
I’d try and catch her again and call the police before you approach her and have them detain her on sight for trespassing. If you can’t get any info out of her to give the police calling them when she isn’t there won’t do any good.
Just because a child is abandon by her “parents” doesn’t mean it is her fault or that she is a worthless human being. I can not imagin living where no one really wants me. It seems to me she is reaching out to you, she has stopped chasing the horses. I have seen more compansion for an animal on this board than for this child.
My neighbors were the most disfunctional family I ever met, I befriended the 10 year old boy, taught him to ride my ponies and work around the farm. He would work beside me all day and all he want was someone to say “Good Job Justin” and give him a pat on the back. When his father remarried the first time the step mother was supportive of Justin riding but when he remarried the 2nd time the step mother was jealous and it broke my heart when I had to tell him he could not come over anymore. At least Justin had 2 years of where he felt good about himself, felt appreciated and loved.
I’d do it again in a heart beat but then I’m the fool that tries to catch the stray dog in the middle of the road during a lightning storm, by the way she’s the most loyal dog I have ever had.
It is not the same thing at all, at all. The OP said she would gladly have had the kid come over and show her the horses. Most of us love to have future horse lovers around us. I’m sure most of us think she just needs a little help along the way. 90% of kids do something in their lives that’s not really acceptable, but 99% of those end up straightening around with maturity. However, based on the story, I agree with a lot of posters that the OP cannot put herself, her animals or the child at risk of being hurt physically, or herself being at risk of being sued. This thread has “headed south” for various reasons, but back home with the OP, things will probably be settled in a sensible manner. The country English are usually pretty polite people.
A lawyer prob wrote it…
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Sigh. Can you provide a cite to the poll, please? Like you, I doubt its accuracy, and I’d be really interested to know who wrote such a thing.[/QUOTE]
And the way these AMBULANCE CHASERS advertise and also go after the drug companies that paid THEIR LAWYERS to bribe the FDA to pass drugs as acceptable. That might be closer to the truth than you think.
And NOW BACK TO THE KID CHASING HORSES…:lol:
Were I in the OP’s shoes, I know for me I could not and would not risk getting involved. My property, my horses, etc, are hidden from view by a thick screen of trees all around. Me and all my neighbors - whether I know them or not…within any sort of view/hearing/sight range work away from home all day every day. I have horses and dogs and cats and whatnot to worry about. This young tween (not really a child in my book) has a history of repeatedly acting out violently (chasing horses with sticks again and again is violent in my book), behaving deceptively (tying Grandma’s dogs and just leaving them there for over an hour- I mean really? Who does that?- and I’m sure she took that fence down. I’d be forging a close relationship with Grandma, and making sure it’s clear what she’s done and doing. I’d want a conference call with Mom and Dad, too. This is a serious offense. That girl needs a Big Fat Dose of reality and penalty. Scrubbing Grandma’s walls, tending Grandma’s garden. She wouldn’t be there with me, scrubbing my barn, I suppose because I can’t be there to make sure she does not burn my barn down while I type on COTH 40 miles away 
It’s not about compassion: I have only dumped dogs and dumped cats, it’s not a lack of heart. It’s just a lack of time and hands on protection of MINE.
Well, phew! I think I’m caught up on the posts.
Kept my appointment this morning with the police. It wasn’t all that productive really, but they gave me a crime number and took copies of the pics. They won’t fingerprint the posts now but advised me to keep them locked away where she can’t get at them so if anything else happens, they can fingerprint them.
The countryside PC was out on another call, but he phoned me this afternoon. He thinks he’s already had a complaint about this child. I mentioned that she was coming around to fix my fencing, and he told me he’d come and have a word with her. He was really lovely, actually, very concerned for my horses and farmer Dave’s cattle!
Child (My mom yelled at me for calling her a kid lol ‘Kids are baby goats…’ did turn up tonight, with a very angry gran hanging onto her arm. Gran and child had cross words before they left home. She was sullen and barely spoke. Her gran popped into the house to use the bathroom, and I offered her some gloves. She told me where I could shove them in a colourful way. I said ‘Fine, your hands, get on with it.’
PC Owen turned up just as we were starting to put the fence back up. (I was showing her how to do it, she was not really paying attention.) He took her up to the house with gran (who had brought a book to read while the child worked) to have a chat with her. I don’t know what he said, but she came back out in a different frame of mind. Actually listened as I told her how to put the posts up. PC Owen left to deal with another call at this point.
About half of the fence was up before she asked to go to the bathroom. I walked her to the one next to my tackroom (which was locked ) and went to the other side of the yard to wash buckets while I waited for her to come out. My truck was parked in the yard, about ten feet away from the tackroom. I don’t know what made me turn around when I did. She was standing in front of my truck, with a hoofpick in her hand, ready to scratch the paint.
I have a hose with a pretty nice jet, and I put it to work, right down the back of her neck. It scared the crap out of her because she thought I wasn’t looking, and she chucked the hoofpick (Not at me, or I’d have squirted her again with the hose) and ran off home.
Wow, that’s gonna be a long post. Gran is beside herself because of this kid. She even brought home made cake for me. So I’m going to have another chat with Owen and see what he thinks. Dave might have more luck with her than me- he has three boys of his own (and a lovely baby daughter).
Ah, well. At least half of my fencing is up. Gran is bringing her back tomorrow night to finish the job. I can’t be there (my night to work late) by my SO (who has just come back from working away) has offered to watch her for me.
Cookies to anyone who gets this far!
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Great job using the hose on her! Sometimes kids like that need a taste of their own medicine- hard work and hard knocks can teach a young mind like that an awful lot.
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WOW!
You are going well beyond my capacity for working with the girl. You actually caught her about to vandalize your truck and you are letting her come back?! I am impressed.
Is your SO scary? I hope so.
Good luck
Kooki, good for you for working so hard to help rehabilitate this girl and for having such good aim with a hose! I am impressed that you are letting her come back - I would be ready to wring her neck if I were you! Her poor grandmother, I hope for her sake that the parents come and claim their ungrateful spawn before she does any more damage.
Really hoping for your sake that your SO can be a scary person when the need arises.
