Just FYI- The Wizard of Oz is on right now on TNT. 8:00-10:15 Eastern time.
thank you
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Just FYI- The Wizard of Oz is on right now on TNT. 8:00-10:15 Eastern time.[/QUOTE]
Well then, I’m off to see the wizard.
How is Gran holding up?
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Grandma may have driven because she knew daughter was hell-bent on confronting Kooki and she didn’t want her driving drunk and endangering the entire countryside.
As far as Gran being the cause of the entire problem for whelping Bad Daughter, the jury is out on that one as we don’t have enough information to make a decision. Sometimes people are just bad.[/QUOTE]
Good point about the driving - I didn’t think of that when I questioned her decision to drive over in the middle of the night.
I don’t think Gran is necessarily the cause of all the trouble either, she certainly sounds like a lovely woman. And I know that families produce all sorts - I often sing that Sesame Street Classic, “One of these things is Not like the Others” when I am with my DH and his brothers! :lol: That is why I would love to know if DM has any siblings - not that it really matters, nice people can have awful children and vice versa, I’m just curious at this point.
:eek::eek::eek:
Holy shnikeys!!!
This whole situation and ensuing thread is insane:lol::lol::lol:
Hope this little dingleberry gets sent far, far away from you and Farmer Dave. What a noble thing for him to offer, but I can just see this evil demon spawn making false allegations against him or his boys. I know of someone who was falsely accused of horrible things, and it was the worst year of his life. The accuser finally fessed up after being thoroughly questioned and couldn’t keep her story straight.
Send this little crackhead on down the road… the art of life is passing problems on:winkgrin:
Like, “Hoods in da Woods?” Supposedly kids from afar come to camps here and work on trail maintenance for the state parks. :lol:
Gosh I hope everything turns out for Kookie…
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Like, “Hoods in da Woods?” Supposedly kids from afar come to camps here and work on trail maintenance for the state parks. :lol:
Gosh I hope everything turns out for Kookie…[/QUOTE]
I hold out hope that it’s that simple- not that it’s ever been around these parts:)
Yes, best of luck to Kookie!
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Drunken Mum re-appeared, rested and refreshed after spending three weeks in Spain with her BF. Showed up at Elphaba’s farm at 2:00 in the morning, drunk and raging at our heroine for getting DM’s issue into trouble. Gran sat in the car crying.
ETA: Proving that there is indeed a God, while busy showing all and sundry her tailfeathers, DM stumbled and grabbed onto leccy fence for support. :D[/QUOTE]
Was this an episode of Absolutely Fabulous?
Should be.
It’s always such a long saga with these kids.
I have a foster son. I am currently applying for full custody, opposed by our Child services, because of the services order which is connected to the custody application - they have to pay lots of costs.
I have known child since he was 7. He has foetal alcohol effects - very small for age, socially delayed, lacks conscience, can’t think ahead, is not good a relating current action to consequences etc etc. All in all a very difficult child to manage. Normal intelligence. Add to the FAE the fact that he has been in at least 12 different foster homes before coming into my care just before he turned 10. I had him in my care for 2 1/2 years. Did all the things Child services requested. Child services agreed to provide me with a number of services - none actually happened. I am a social worker, trained in child development and the management of kids with behaviour problems. When I requested support (I am single), was given the impression that I shouldn’t need it because I have had the training.
Child has tantrums. He and I were dealing with these (because no one else was helping us!) In August last year, he was told his bio mother was back in the area. Tantrums started up again. Yelling, screaming, swearing, threatening - imagine the worst behaviour in a toddler, with the strength of a fit, pre-adolescent boy. In September we were riding - I have taught him to ride and he has two ponies- he was being stroppy with pony who bucked him off. Started yelling at pony. I told him that it was not fair to pony - started yelling at me. I told him he needed to either apologise or go away and calm down and come back when he was ready to apologise (our usual strategy). He stormed off. After I had finished working horse and out them away he still hadn’t come back. Nearly dark by now. Searched the farm. Still no sign. In the end rang the police. They said that he had been in there and was “a child in need of care”. turns out he phoned a past foster family who came and picked him up. They took him to the police and he told them I’d been beating him up.
Child’s social worked was out of the country. No one read his file to see that this had happened before. Child services let him with past foster family until I complained to the psychologist who then demanded that he was moved. Off course child services not interested when I said that he was not safe - I was a child abuser. Child services placed him with another foster family. Lasted a couple of weeks there until foster parent found him and another child playing with penises. This from a child who hadn’t shown any signs of this sort of behaviour. Placed with another family. I started haveing contact again. Police closed case, no evidence, child kept changing story. I was not sure that I wanted anything further to do with Child or child services. Huge stress. Concerned on my contacts with child that family he was with were not good. SWer very concerned also. No other family available. “Are you concerned for physical safety?” “No, concerns are around emotional well being.” “well, not really a problem for us.”
Removed from that family after found naked in bed with 6 year old foster sister.
I am now having regular contact and have applied for custody because it seems to me that no one else is looking out for this child. If I can keep him out of jail then I will have done him and society a favour.
I am glad that I am not starting with him now though. Farmer Dave is a Very Brave Man.
Sorry for the epic saga. Lots of these kids are brain damaged and no matter what we do, we will never be able to make them high functioning members of society. The function well with strict boundaries and limits, clear consequences and consistant attention.
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WOW Phoebetrainer. You are a hero for be so patient with your foster son and not giving up on him.
Come on Child In My Pasture!! Almost 1,000 posts! :lol:
phoeboetrainer the consquences of his actions like you say are dertermined by mind set problems
and no doubt go right back to his parents and then his care parents that were not properly checked out beofre having this child as in a crm check ie criminal record check in childcare
this is often a dwonful on social services becuase they dont have the manpower or enough units
due to goverment legistation not realising that kids today are a future tomorrow
and soem children need that vital contact of a decent human being, but often the case is they get passed from pillar to post from one foster carer to another
some are good and some are bad, and the child is just a child and i hate to say this but as the goverment usually pays for a foster-- then they money is the object and not the child in question
there ouaght to be more for the social servcies- in what they do and ther ouaght to be regualar check ups, as in weekly if a child is at risk or even dialy contact with the foster parent
my aunty was a foster mom, and she was brillient did it for years but the child was upper most in her mind at all times,
sometimes when a child has been dumped by parents into a care home society it f-- up ther mind as deep down they want to know why or thinks it s there fault, with this in mind children know even as young as 2yrsold that they arnt with there mom, and that plays on there mind- later in life if they have spent there life in care some want to find there oirginal parents and ask why- some say they have good reasons as to why
just watch the shows on tv with all the one that are re united most say at that time i was 17 or 16 or 15 or didint have a job, or my parents told it was sin etc but forwhatever the reason why you give up your child–
its still your child- how that child turns out depends on the society and the enviroment it lives in,
if how ever it has mental problems most are becuase they dont understand and cant figure it out as to why they been dumped so they rebell some are genuiely ill with xyz
some do ok, and are happy with the situation etc and turn out to be good adults
but personally if it was me or my child on the line then the child comes 1st
and i would give it the best darn care one could give,
theres a whole bunch of reason why people do what they do, and why kids are in homes
or like kooky situation
the child is rebelling in her own way as its one of not understanding why its gets dumped off and no one cares for her, so she does what she has to do to get attention
its a cry for help in most cases and then wehn you do help- they still cry for more
it takes a long time to sorrected soemthing so deep seated in a human mind
as to what makes that person tick
Was this an episode of Absolutely Fabulous?
No, but when I saw the recent story in the paper about the two drunk English women who got kicked off a plane, I wondered if their names were Patsy and Edina.
http://www.deccan.com/World/WorldNews.asp#Drunk%20UK%20women%20force%20plane%20to%20land
haha very funny
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No, but when I saw the recent story in the paper about the two drunk English women who got kicked off a plane, I wondered if their names were Patsy and Edina.
http://www.deccan.com/World/WorldNews.asp#Drunk%20UK%20women%20force%20plane%20to%20land[/QUOTE]
Arrrggghhh, I’m going to Kos in September:eek:
I don’t wanna be with CHAVS.
Paddy
sends warm confy hugs to Kookicat
you and your horses and Dave with his family have really tried all you can so I dont blame you for not trying.
Poor granny she has really got more than she can handle with, I hope her husband gets well. and that those 2 dessapear…
holy crap! Last time I checked this thread it had 10 posts! Apparently something crazy happened!
Can someone summarize so I don’t have to read all 920??
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holy crap! Last time I checked this thread it had 10 posts! Apparently something crazy happened!
Can someone summarize so I don’t have to read all 920??[/QUOTE]
Kid in field hassling horses
Kid rips up fence posts
Discovered kid was staying with Gran locally as mother couldn’t cope
Discussion with Gran
Gran makes kid come and put back up fence posts, meanwhile kid gets soaked with hose while trying to key OPs truck with a hoofpick
Nice PC Owen tries to have a chat with kid
Drunken Mom shows up at 2am screaming at OP for getting kid in trouble with Police
Gran can’t cope anymore
Farmer Dave next door offers to adopt
Have I missed any salient points?
Try looking at all Kookicat’s posts and then pick out the ones relating to this topic, easier than reading 920 posts 
Sorry for not updating. I’ve been at a tradeshow for work over the weekend. (I’m exhasuted. Two members of staff didn’t turn up so I ended up doing 6am-8pm both days.)
Back on topic- Child and mother are still here. Mother seems to have child under control when she (mother) isn’t drunk- which isn’t often, from what I’ve seen. The landlady in the pub says Mother is in there almost every night when she visits Gran.
Gran is a very slight lady- about 5ft 1, and about 110pounds. Mother is around 5ft6 and is quite heavy. I dare say Gran feared for her safety if she didn’t do as daughter said. 
Gran has two other daughters- one is a nurse, and the other is a teacher. Child’s mother is the middle child.
Farmer Dave is waiting to hear back from the caseworker. He thinks that they’ll say no becasue of Mother. I kinda hope that they do, after meeting Mother, for his family’s sake.
Grandad is still ill and in hospital. I don’t think Mother has been to visit him. Child has been once with Gran.
Oh, and could I have some jingles for PC Owen? He was involved in a car crash while at work on Thursday. He has a broken shoulder- a drunk driver ran into his patrol car.
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Wow! You do have your plate full. Take care.:yes:
Those things take time, hopefully the mother and kid will go away and not be back until the kid is older and more civilized, maybe.
Looks like you are stuck with that family there, can’t help that sometimes.
The kid does has a family, so I doubt that the case worker would give the kid to another family, just because it causes problems.
Maybe they will get her some professional help soon, an obvious need after all what happened.
Try to keep a low profile, because I don’t think you can’t do anything to help and have yours to protect.
Jingles for you…
Jingles for Granny and Grandpa
Jingles for PC Owen.
And my stick art response for all the poor drama is…
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