Kooki, Good Lord! Now poor PC Owen is injured?! :eek: It wasn’t Drunk Mum who ran into him was it? Hope he is mending.
Glad to hear that Gran has two daughters she can depend on. I have sisters who are nurses and I know it is nice to have them when there is a medical crisis so I hope the one is being a comfort with Gramps. Maybe those two can do something about their sister, or at least take the demon spawn out of the area.
Luckily for you, since there is other family, I agree with Bluey that social services won’t give the girl to Farmer Dave. In the long run, this will turn out to be a good thing for him and for you. In the short term, watch your back, keep the fence on high and your hose at the ready!
I have a business trip next week. I’m not sure if I should take my horses to my trainer’s for the time I’m away (4-5 days). All three travel well and settle anywhere. I think I’d sleep better if I knew they were safe. Houses/property can be replaced. The horses couldn’t.
My SO would still be at home, but he works nights, so there would be no-one there overnight. What do you think?
I would if it were mine…being gone during the day would worry me enough, but gone for several days? Ask your trainer, but if I had the ability, and if it were my own horse, I would feel better sleeping at night if he was out of harm’s potential reach.
please dont tell me it was mother-- who was drunk dirver and hit pc plod
as its to much of a coinsident – isnt it
i hope dave doesnt get her to be honest then you will only have to worry at term time holidays and stuff and you can work out roughly when kid will be around so you more prepared for a naughty child to visit- plus she might grow out of it dunno but at least you will have some forwarning as to when to up the anti xx
If they are not gone by then I would move the horses. Its not fair you have to pay to keep your horses elsewhere, but a mother/daughter team of crazy people is just too risky.
Yeah, the child is under control now, but the mother isn’t and blames you for everything.
Sorry for all your trouble, but aren’t they going home soon!?
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If they are not gone by then I would move the horses. Its not fair you have to pay to keep your horses elsewhere, but a mother/daughter team of crazy people is just too risky.
Yeah, the child is under control now, but the mother isn’t and blames you for everything.
Sorry for all your trouble, but aren’t they going home soon!?[/QUOTE]
I agree. There are no limits I would not go to, if I were financially able, in order to protect my horses. If they haven’t left by then (and you also know that they’re not coming back!), I wouldn’t hesitate moving my horses just for a few days. To me, it would be worth it.
If you do end up leaving the horses at home - DONT tell her (or Gran) that you will be gone. Without prior warning, most likely it would be a few days before she notices you are gone, and then she would not know when to expect you home, a fact that most likely (hopefully?) will keep her from formulating some fiendish plot.
Big jingles for PC Owens! :yes: And hoping Grandpa is getting better every day.
Sorry you are having to go through this KC. Have a good trip, and enjoy the time away from the drama. :winkgrin::yes:
I have not read all of the posts here but did wade through the first third and wanted to suggest you purchase additional equine liability insurance ASAP. This will help protect you if the kid does something stupid like let your horses out or get kicked in the head and covers just in case they have a great lawyer who finds an way around the state law.
We have a million dollar policy and I still cringe when I see neighbors standing on our fences to pet our horses, but at least we’re covered if they drop the toddler into the paddock.
Don’t know where you are, but here, in your case, with what is going on, the police would take the time to have someone around all the time you were gone, checking to be sure nothing was happening.
Of course, maybe your only police is the one that was injured?:eek:
I hope that drunken Mum is not planning to stay at Gran’s on a permanent basis - hope she has a home to go home to.
Oh, and in the synopsis of that happened you failed to describe how drunken Mum fell into the electric fence and that a large part of the thread was distracted for a while by a now-banned person who shall be nameless.
I might just lock child and mother in a loose box while I’m away and have done with it. :winkgrin:
Hopefully, my trainer should be able to take them for the week. Pasture board would be fine. Heck, they could live in her garden- I don’t mind so long as they’re safe.
[quote=Tiramit;3394418]Geez this is a fun situation. Poor Kooki!
I have not read all of the posts here but did wade through the first third and wanted to suggest you purchase additional equine liability insurance ASAP. This will help protect you if the kid does something stupid like let your horses out or get kicked in the head and covers just in case they have a great lawyer who finds an way around the state law.
We have a million dollar policy and I still cringe when I see neighbors standing on our fences to pet our horses, but at least we’re covered if they drop the toddler into the paddock.
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Great idea. I have good liability insurence (£3mil) but I’ll give my broker a ring and find out what she recomends. I really should have done it the first day the child was in my pasture.
[quote=arabhorse2;3394470]Bluey, Kooki’s in England. Don’t think there are a lot of beat cops available where she lives.
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You’re right. I very rarely see the police in my village. Drive into the nearest town or city, and you see them, but out in the sticks? No. :yes:
It wasn’t the Mother who crashed into PC Owen- a drunk 17y/o in his Dad’s car did that. :no:
I’m trying to get hold of my trainer now to ask if I can board my horses there for a week. (I’d rather they were there early and back a few days later.)
I honsetly don’t know how long Mother is planning to stay at Gran’s. Not much longer I hope.
I’m happy to hear you’re looking into moving the horses while you’re gone - were it me in your situation I would be really worried about their safety at home. And hey, a plus to having them at the trainer’s is maybe she has some horse-crazy barn rats around that can keep them in work while you’re gone? I don’t think the horses would mind either way but it might be nicer for you! :lol:
And, of course, big jingles for Gran, Gramps and poor PC Owen. Hopefully it won’t be long until you’re all rid of this mess.
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It’s always such a long saga with these kids.
I have a foster son. I am currently applying for full custody, opposed by our Child services, because of the services order which is connected to the custody application - they have to pay lots of costs.
I have known child since he was 7. He has foetal alcohol effects - very small for age, socially delayed, lacks conscience, can’t think ahead, is not good a relating current action to consequences etc etc. All in all a very difficult child to manage. Normal intelligence. Add to the FAE the fact that he has been in at least 12 different foster homes before coming into my care just before he turned 10. I had him in my care for 2 1/2 years. Did all the things Child services requested. Child services agreed to provide me with a number of services - none actually happened. I am a social worker, trained in child development and the management of kids with behaviour problems. When I requested support (I am single), was given the impression that I shouldn’t need it because I have had the training.
Child has tantrums. He and I were dealing with these (because no one else was helping us!) In August last year, he was told his bio mother was back in the area. Tantrums started up again. Yelling, screaming, swearing, threatening - imagine the worst behaviour in a toddler, with the strength of a fit, pre-adolescent boy. In September we were riding - I have taught him to ride and he has two ponies- he was being stroppy with pony who bucked him off. Started yelling at pony. I told him that it was not fair to pony - started yelling at me. I told him he needed to either apologise or go away and calm down and come back when he was ready to apologise (our usual strategy). He stormed off. After I had finished working horse and out them away he still hadn’t come back. Nearly dark by now. Searched the farm. Still no sign. In the end rang the police. They said that he had been in there and was “a child in need of care”. turns out he phoned a past foster family who came and picked him up. They took him to the police and he told them I’d been beating him up.
Child’s social worked was out of the country. No one read his file to see that this had happened before. Child services let him with past foster family until I complained to the psychologist who then demanded that he was moved. Off course child services not interested when I said that he was not safe - I was a child abuser. Child services placed him with another foster family. Lasted a couple of weeks there until foster parent found him and another child playing with penises. This from a child who hadn’t shown any signs of this sort of behaviour. Placed with another family. I started haveing contact again. Police closed case, no evidence, child kept changing story. I was not sure that I wanted anything further to do with Child or child services. Huge stress. Concerned on my contacts with child that family he was with were not good. SWer very concerned also. No other family available. “Are you concerned for physical safety?” “No, concerns are around emotional well being.” “well, not really a problem for us.”
Removed from that family after found naked in bed with 6 year old foster sister.
I am now having regular contact and have applied for custody because it seems to me that no one else is looking out for this child. If I can keep him out of jail then I will have done him and society a favour.
I am glad that I am not starting with him now though. Farmer Dave is a Very Brave Man.
Sorry for the epic saga. Lots of these kids are brain damaged and no matter what we do, we will never be able to make them high functioning members of society. The function well with strict boundaries and limits, clear consequences and consistant attention.[/QUOTE]
Not much longer I hope.
I don’t think the horses would mind either way but it might be nicer for you! :lol: