Contesting scores

[Larksmom]

when I jj, there are inevitably people talking over each other, but the people at the receiving end are dogged in their attempts to get it right.

[Janet]

I do not think there is a specific RULE requiring paper score sheets, and I know there is at least one company that provides WiFi based scoring. But I would hate to have to investigate an “inquiry” without the paper score sheet. Especially since jump judges often radio in (and/orwrite down) an incorrect rider number. When you have all the paper score sheets it is easier to sort that out.

As I tell the jump judges, the 3 most common inquiries I get are

• It wasn’t me
• I had not presented yet
• It wasn’t a refusal

The paper score sheet is far more useful in sorting that out, compared to what was said over the radio. You can’t “draw a picture of what happened” over the radio.

[Syrynx]

LOL they sure were!

[Larksmom]

I often cannot see the number, and I would hate to tell you how many times I have had to rely on the loudspeaker, and jjs in front of me to announce who is heading for my jump.

[Syrynx]

Same! This year I was at fence 2 and I could clearly see fence 1. So much easier than being out on the middle of the course.

[Janet]

I know. I am not blaming the jump judges (I am a jump judge too).
Suppose
Fence 3 has

• 43 clear
• 42 clear
• 44 clear

Fence 4 has

• 42 clear
• 43 Refusal
• 44 clear

Fence 5 has

• 43 clear
• 42 clear
• 44 clear

Then, if 43 makes an inquiry, saying they didn’t have a refusal at fence 4, didn’t pass anybody, and weren’t passed by anybody, I am probably going to give them the benefit of the doubt. (I am also going to find 42 and talk to them.) But if all I have is what the controller filled out in a master score sheet based on the radio calls, I am not going to have that information

[Jealoushe]

this happened to me too and I had to show my go pro footage to get the 20 removed lol

[Larksmom]

the good news is looking ahead now, the weather guessers are saying rain from 12 am till maybe 6 am. So hopefully, no rain but the humidity!

[fanfayre]

Weather guessers

[CodyNKR]

The paper jump judge sheets are the official ones.

[pony_grandma]

When you can’t see #s then descriptions are very necessary as you rely upon radio calls. I’ve been there w that problem.

There’s a thread in the past about challenging time penalties. And I added in that one about the ones that are made necessary at nondesignated - hold fences.

Can You successfully Challenge Cross Country Time Penalties

Now I am not stupid…It wasn t my time penalties…But I observed an interaction and was very very curious, coming from a family with Swimming Competitors where “The Official Time Stood” period…Pitting your personal watch…well after your run is over…against the “official Clock” how does that work…your watch can be diddled with while you are pondering the penalty impact…I tried to Google it but found nothing…maybe I am stupid:lol::yes::eek::D:winkgrin:

^^^ probably all more than you’all ever really wanted to know!

[Larksmom]

well, I was jump judging 2 weeks ago and they put me at the first fence! So I had to pay doubly attention.

[pony_grandma]

I remember a fence #1 assignment and at first I was stung thinking oh this is too easy. I had a great day watching the start box and the scenarios there. I learned a lot.

The trainer that hand walked her student to the area and then announced ‘this is where she has her problems.’ Atta way trainer… Sure enough there was a lot of tugging, circling and bit pulling going on once the trainer had to let loose. Then the smacking the horse coming out of the box … that horse NEVER SAW fence #1 3 Refs and DQ’d.

Trainer, horse - student and parents walked away. Horse probably needed to be sold and go purchase. I wished I had a wad of cash on me I’d have made an offer!