Dehydration/minor colic JINGLES needed

What does that reply have to do with the questions that were asked?

There were no details given about what the argument entailed, and it has been said that Chanter has no family. If she DOES have family and they won’t associate with her, that seems odd. Especially since everyone in her life has seemed to do something wrong to her. So it seems interesting to me that you seem to know more about what is going on than what has been said on here publicly. If you are talking to Chanter, please PM Chanter’s Helper.

She obviously has something mental going on, and needs professionals to sort this out. People who ARE equipped to handle her. It sounds like CH is trying to find out exactly who that would be.

Brain injury + stress, stress, and more stress = shuts down and needs some time to process things on her own terms, which often means no more input from the other side for awhile. Seriously, this can happen over deciding between scrambled or fried eggs. I know I’d be seriously shutting down over all the stress Chanter has incurred over the past few weeks… at least that has been my experience living with brain injury over the last 5 1/2+ years. I know I have many days that I don’t feel like I can deal any better than my 2 y.o. niece, yet I have some very adult decisions that I have to make in my life.

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Brain injury + stress, stress, and more stress = shuts down and needs some time to process things on her own terms, which often means no more input from the other side for awhile. Seriously, this can happen over deciding between scrambled or fried eggs. I know I’d be seriously shutting down over all the stress Chanter has incurred over the past few weeks… at least that has been my experience living with brain injury over the last 5 1/2+ years. I know I have many days that I don’t feel like I can deal any better than my 2 y.o. niece, yet I have some very adult decisions that I have to make in my life.[/QUOTE]

A perfect explanation as to why Chanter should be getting professional help. No?
I still don’t understand why no one has called the Adult Services in Texas.

Going through underwear drawers in the middle of the night for no good reason? This is a believable story from someone with a publicly posted past history of unbelievable stories? :lol:
One may not be able to believe everything one is told. :winkgrin:

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Going through underwear drawers in the middle of the night for no good reason? This is a believable story from someone with a publicly posted past history of unbelievable stories? :lol:
One may not be able to believe everything one is told. :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]

Wow, did I miss something somewhere? Who went through whose drawers exactly? I thought this was about Chanter and her horses/dogs finding help and homes. Now I’m definitely confused. Must be a language barrier between Canada and Texas.

GLS, are you posting real situations that happened to Chanter, real situations that happened to you, or hypotheticals?

I think that was goeslikestink trying to illustrate how, if you are the victim of a crime or abuse, it’s not so easy to trust again. :yes:

And, to a certain extent, I agree. It’s probably very difficult for Chanter to turn off her “survival instinct,” and I would imagine she’s very defensive by nature. Her new situation in TX is not what she expected, and it may be that she is reacting in the only way she knows how.

Before assuming all is lost, I would encourage Chantershelper to research TBI a little more, and perhaps learn how to better understand Chanter’s behavior.

Personally, I would back off…WAY off…for a little while. Her behavior indicates that she perceives a major threat (whether there is one or not, that’s how she perceives it); if at all possible, give her some time and some space to calm down and begin to see things for what they are. She doesn’t trust anyone yet (why should she), so she will have to see for herself that the funky water ISN’T going to hurt her horse, and that you aren’t out to screw her over.

I would ignore the “silent treatment” for a few days. Let her be the one to initiate conversation…or, if you speak to her, don’t talk about the issues you’ve had. It may be that she feels badly about the way she acted, but doesn’t know how to explain her behavior or express her guilt, so she has “gone into hiding” physically and mentally. Let her stay there and process things for a little while, if you can. If need be, slip a note under her door saying, “I really want to resolve things. Please talk to me when you’re ready.”

Bear in mind that TBI often causes a developmental setback; Chanter may chronologically be in her 40’s, but mentally she might see the world through much younger eyes. Children (and many adults, for that matter) often express guilt as anger. Think about it: if a little boy breaks mom’s favorite lamp, and she scolds him for his carelessness, he will feel guilty…but he doesn’t know what to do with that emotion, so instead of saying, “Yes, mom, you’re right, I’m sorry,” he will think to himself, “But I didn’t MEAN to break it…why is she making me feel bad?” and become angry instead. Basically, Chanter may realize she overreacted about the water and about other things that weren’t the way she thought they would be…but she can’t figure out how to make amends without “weakening” herself, and her resulting defensiveness is creating a snowball effect.

CH, I think you are in a position to break the cycle, so to speak…but you will need to know how to handle a person with TBI. If I were in your shoes (and I AM glad I’m not ;)), I’d spend the next few days doing some homework and making some phone calls…specifically, you would want to speak with a doctor or therapist who specializes in TBI. Then, armed with a better understanding of what you are dealing with, try to open communications with Chanter again. I believe if you can do this in a way that is non-threatening to her, you may succeed in reaching a solution that is good for both of you.

Just my two cents. Good luck to all involved. :yes:

Ah ok, I don’t read Goes like stinks posts, I can’t handle em. Thank you for the catch-up.

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Why shouldn’t she trust anyone yet? Wow. She has a myriad of strangers that she BEGGED for help, help her out of a situation that may not have been as bad as she said it was (As far as I know, the only person to actually go out to the property was a big guy to have a burly talk with the barn manager) and people help her get a new home, and right off the bat she starts complaining about her new digs? I think you have it the other way around. Why should CH trust her?

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I agree with Black Market Radio.

SBT- I don’t think CH should be having to walk on eggshells to appease someone she let come to her home, and presumably work for her in a safe atmosphere. You’re suggesting that instead of having some help on her farm, where she offered chanter a home and job, that she now Kowtow to her. Bull crap!

sbt exactly – those that dont understand dont get it becuase they have never been there ----

look some understand me well – some do not
as some know i have struggle to put things into prespective-- but iam a logical thinker-- but it dont come over that way
becuase of bad comprehension and delxtic ways
but –
it doesnt make me any less of the perosn i truely am – chanter has issues and her dignity and she thinks to – time is all she needs to get it right in her

– me it takes me time to get it right on a page

an slot things into order as logical –

i think they can both work on it given time and chance

OK, GLS can you at least use a spell check program so we can understand you a bit better? I understand that you are dyslexic, but using a spell check would make your posts a tad easier to understand.

Also, do you or do you not know Chanter personally or do you have inside information that we are unaware of?

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Those of you who are so "“caring” and think that CH ought to humour and lcontinue to house the OP and her animals , should then offer to open their homes instead. It’s very easy to impose such things on other people. If you are not willing to invite this person to live at your farm or home , then you have no business telling someone else they should do so.

Those of you who assisted and encouraged this unfortunate move, ought to be looking for a solution.

How about YOUR house? What’s the matter? Don’t you care?

SBT, Chanter solicited help from strangers. If she were not comfortable doing so, she could have asked for help from APS herself. If she is truly disabled and receives a check for such injury, she is in “the system”. She may not like the system or the restrictions it places on her, but she is connected.

She is smart enough to come on a BB and ask for assistance, and capable enough of not only driving a long distance, but of doing it in an ice-storm. I believe she is more capable than some are giving her credit for. Just because she is labeled as “disabled” doesn’t mean too much. “TBI” can be used to describe a myriad of issues. My roommate in college had a TBI, and managed a 3.9 all the way to the end…and no school officials even knew she had one, so no provisions were made for her disability.

Someone suggested PTSD, and I’m not sure what situation gave him or her that impression; was that from a conversation with her? Or is someone mistakenly using that interchangeably with the TBI? There are some brain changes that occur in some people with PTSD, but it is not termed as a TBI. The only reason I’m bringing it up is to try and understand what is solid information about Chanter, and what is conjecture.

yeah all you do-gooders go pay pal her some money - that’s all she was ever after in the first place. She just happened to scheme herself a little to far into it and ended up in texas, instead of a nice vacation somewhere, or a car deposit or something.

For Chantershelper - Call the cops - Turf this ungrateful, scamming, loser out of your home - before your marriage suffers! You and Mr Helper don’t need this crap.

I won’t mince my words and i’m sure i’ll get banned or something. But this whole situation is disgusting and I can’t believe it’s been allowed to escalate on the internet to such proportions. Let this be a lesson to this forum and the moderators that future “Help me, some big bad man is being mean to me and my beasts!” threads be shut down and removed immediately. This is a place to talk horses. Not offer welfare to those who need to take responsibility for their own problems and try to take advantage of the generosity of horsepeople.

New COTH Name

Chronicle of the Crazy.

What a sad situation.

Chanter how are your horses first off?

Now it sounds like the situation is not what you had expected and you were not what CH was expecting either.

How to resolve this peacefully?

Where do you want to go? Why will you not communicate with CH. Im sure CH didnt spend all this time to get you there to make you misserable. Are you willing to sit down with a 3rd party and CH to discuss this rationally?

what do you mean where does she WANT to go?

the crazy doesn’t want to spend “their OWN money”. They have this bizarre sense of entitlement and feel that everyone else should pay their way whilst they gallavant from one place to another.

They also seem to feel the need to create drama and surround themselves with attention - good or bad. Any attention to them is viewed as good attention.

CH needs to call the police and have this person taken off the property. They are not sound of mind and I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing my animals or property may come to harm.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. :yes: