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DESPERATE TO MOVE! They're here! pg 26

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#141

[QUOTE=Wendy123;2096674]
You are a vet? Vets use correct grammer, punctuation, and spelling. A vet would not assume a horse is skinny because it is old or needs their teeth floated.[/QUOTE]

For God’s sake, what does grammAr (yes, proper spelling on your part would be prudent before attacking someone else’s) have to do with being a vet TECH? I didn’t realize veterinary training required an English degree. Perhaps you have veterinary science confused with the GSP test required of journalism majors? Good attempt at breaking down someone’s character though, you really told her, huh?

I don’t see why people feel the need to jump on Maxxtrot for being skeptical and wanting to confirm details before offering help- the fact is, there are a LOT of internet scams out there, people with sob stories asking for help but really just wanting your money. I’m not saying this is one of them, I’m just saying its not all that unrealistic to want to check it out first and make sure. ESPECIALLY since she lives in the area and has somewhat of a business connection with the accused.

One question- Lots of offers have been made to Chanter for help. Has she accepted any of them?

Give the horses away. Send the dogs to a shelter. You’re not helping the animals at all by keeping them when you know that you cannot afford to take care of them without putting them in bad situations. I know you think you can’t live without them, but you can, and they’ll be much happier when they can be properly cared for. Then you won’t have to be picky about living arrangements, you can take the offers that have been made, and you can get back on your own feet. The fact is, you’re NEVER going to end up in a better situation (money-wise, especially) if you try to hold onto the horses. Think about them- do you really think that you’re putting them in good situations?

#142

glad I’m not the only one that wonders why she has not taken anyone up on there help offers…

#143

Okay, I have followed and read this entire post and from the beginning something did not feel “right” about it.
Chanter has gotten quite a few legitimate offers for help/trasnportation/shelter, but it seems not one of them was accepted.
The legal system is flawed but I think she could have gotten SOME kind of protection…she stayed in the last horrid situation way longer than she should. And I agree, if you are that broke you cannot have luxuries like HORSES, or any other animal you cannot afford to care for and feed.
Chanter, please clear all this up for those of us who find your situation a little unclear. I am not disputing your word, but the fact that you haven’t jumped on the first trailer offered is a little strange, considering your desperate tone…

#144

I think there have been offers of local transport and distant free horse boarding, but nothing yet to keep her horses local and somewhere for her and her dogs. Her dogs need to stay with her - no local bedrooms (besides the possibility of Nootka’s). The offer to VA was today (I think) so may not yet be looked into. If her horses are on pasture, they probably aren’t in immediate physical danger from the FM. She’s probably looking for somewhere to keep her horses, and where she can stay with her dogs.

I can’t even really accomodate horses for a couple of days (hubby reinforced that we have - no room - when I tried figuring out who could share paddocks with whom). I think getting her horses out of there to somewhere local for a temporary time (for no cost) would free her up to leave quickly. She probably won’t go without her horses (and I don’t blame her). It might take a few days to work out a job situation with living quarters.

She is in a dicey situation… I called today, but no answer.

#145

[QUOTE=archieflies;2097102]
For God’s sake, what does grammAr (yes, proper spelling on your part would be prudent before attacking someone else’s) have to do with being a vet TECH? [/QUOTE]

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

#146

Has anyone heard from Chanter???
Until she comes back and tells the story HERSELF, I think we could continue to hope for a happy ending to this.

I sincerely hope she’s ok.

#147

I’ve been reading this thread the last few days, keeping up on it.

I’m not saying I believe or don’t believe Chanter, but something is not adding up. IMO, the horses didn’t get “thin” overnight, she must have noticed it when she went to look at the place before she moved there. Red flag? I don’t know, something isn’t right. Not to mention, I thought Chanter was like 18 or 19, not in her 40’s! Chanter has several people worried about her, and several CoTher’s have offered to help in one way or another, so why is she still there? If I was down that way, I would do what I could for her, loan her a tape-recorder, video camera, anything just to help her out. Unfortunately, something is unbelieveable, and I give credits to those trying to help her out. Something does seem “off” about all of this. I hate to be negative, but I’m trusting my gut on this one. I don’t know, but some of the things she was saying, Wow.

All we can do now, is sit back and wait for Chanter to come on here and give us her update. Until then, we can not do anything. Even if BM “hurt” her, there is no way of knowing, because (not sure if I’m 100% right or not, sorry if I’m wrong) no one really knows where this farm is, so not much can be done for her in the long run. I do pray for her and the animals involved safety. Keeping Chanter in our prayers.

#148

[QUOTE=JBnC;2097215]
:smiley: :smiley: :D[/QUOTE]

Oops: the quote I meant to use was: “For God’s sake, what does grammAr (yes, proper spelling on your part would be prudent before attacking someone else’s) have to do with being a vet TECH? I didn’t realize veterinary training required an English degree. Perhaps you have veterinary science confused with the GSP test required of journalism majors? Good attempt at breaking down someone’s character though, you really told her, huh?”

In case you were referring to my comment as well (if not, please ignore: ;))

I was simply considering that if I were Chanter, and someone PM’d me stating they were a professional and knew this man (the employee beating boss)…well, the lack of typing skills would have been a red flag for me. The way we present ourselves - in this format, the way we type, DOES have some influence after all.

I realize that it is irrelavent now…but I’m just saying it would have made me skeptical under these specific circumstances.

Also note: I suck at typing and I’ve forgotten almost every grammar rule I’ve ever known - but I do try!

Anyway! As I read on…this thread is giving me a headache.
I hate to think that we have been deceived. I’m really hoping this is not the case.

#149

The water is just a stupid mans power play issue. He is the controler, he can do whatever he wants. Simply an abusers way to further victumize.

He is always mad at one horse or another & screaming about starving it for a few days to make it submit. Gee, somehow stupid me would accidently always feed which ever horse it was this time. Oh course I was screamed at for it, but oh well, I could be a duck & let that roll off my back. Other things I simply cannot be a duck about. So I guess turning off my water is just part of his thinking process of getting me to submit? I have no idea what goes on in his mean brain, other than obviously constant unhappy thoughts.

#150

Chanter…what are you DOING???

#151

Yes…Chanter PLEASE give us an update and tell us whose offers you have follwed up on…your post did not really address anything…:confused:

#152

Chanter, you have to do something. We can all give you ideas to no end, but you are the only one who can actually do something. We cannot. We are not employed by this man, and our horses are not there. If I were in your shoes, I’d be more worried about looking for a place to go, (and quick) than about what he’s going to do to you. The only thing he’s doing by hurting you more is adding to your complaint. It’s his problem in the end, he’ll be the one getting punished, be it by authorities or a higher being.

Document, document, document. Do anything you can. You may have to give up the dogs and/or horses, but you have to look out for your own life in the end, because if you go before those animals, they will have no one to defend them.

#153

Absolutely! I moved my horse in less than 24 hours in July '06 over watching another horse get abused. Granted, it was only down the street, but the horse was almost taken to my house in the city and placed in my backyard until I had found something more suitable. My horse was leaving, no way could I leave him there, and I was under way less risk of my horse being abused than yours. In my case it was truly more neglect and idioacy, it wasn’t direct abuse. But mine was out of there anyway. I couldn’t sleep that night scared for my horse. So I understand being frightened. The barn I left was owned by one of the richest men in my area. He does DOT contracts all over the southeast. He drives around loaded, with at least 1 half gallon of Jack Daniels in his vehicle at any time. The cops never pull him over. He laughs about that too. Yet, bottom line, I got my horse the HELL out of there.

People have posted options. Have you called? Just asking, even if it’s not an ideal situation, maybe it could work just long enough until you could get on your feet. Please update us!

#154

[QUOTE=archieflies;2097102]
For God’s sake, what does grammAr (yes, proper spelling on your part would be prudent before attacking someone else’s) have to do with being a vet TECH? I didn’t realize veterinary training required an English degree. Perhaps you have veterinary science confused with the GSP test required of journalism majors? Good attempt at breaking down someone’s character though, you really told her, huh?

I don’t see why people feel the need to jump on Maxxtrot for being skeptical and wanting to confirm details before offering help- the fact is, there are a LOT of internet scams out there, people with sob stories asking for help but really just wanting your money. I’m not saying this is one of them, I’m just saying its not all that unrealistic to want to check it out first and make sure. ESPECIALLY since she lives in the area and has somewhat of a business connection with the accused.

One question- Lots of offers have been made to Chanter for help. Has she accepted any of them?

Give the horses away. Send the dogs to a shelter. You’re not helping the animals at all by keeping them when you know that you cannot afford to take care of them without putting them in bad situations. I know you think you can’t live without them, but you can, and they’ll be much happier when they can be properly cared for. Then you won’t have to be picky about living arrangements, you can take the offers that have been made, and you can get back on your own feet. The fact is, you’re NEVER going to end up in a better situation (money-wise, especially) if you try to hold onto the horses. Think about them- do you really think that you’re putting them in good situations?[/QUOTE]

I am not on the board claiming to be a vet professional and never claimed to be a perfect speller. I would assume a “vet professional” would use the correct vet terms and be able to spell the breed of a horse correctly. I wonder also about the poster’s story in totality but would give her the benefit of the doubt since it appears that the welfare of the horses (and her) is at risk. I wonder at the counter post of this supposed vet tech as well because the tone, grammer, and spelling of the post seem rather juvenile!

#155

[QUOTE=King’s Ransom;2097030]
Yankee Lawyer – you are right, and certainly the dynamics are VERY different inside a marriage. The dynamics of an abusive domestic relationship are so confusing and difficult, it really is very different. But I was just saying that people tend to repeat their mistakes … and the domestic violence situation is one example of that. I have also seen people repeatedly make the same mistakes in business, investing, and employment. I have a friend who is such a good person, very nice, outgoing, talented … but she cannot hold a job. Her mouth gets her in trouble every time. And I mean EVERY time. She never learns! Even after months of unemployment and nearly losing her home, she gets a great job, everything is going wonderfully. She has benefits, a retirement plan, starting to put some money in the bank and then WHAM! She’s fired because she told somebody off. Oy vey! How many times does this have to happen before she learns? Apparently … at least once more.:no:
She is still a really good person, a good friend … but making the same mistake over and over.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. That’s what I thought you meant, but as others keep referring to domestic violence as well I just wanted to clarify that there is a distinction. Domestic violence situations are typically a lot more complicated, for one thing.

#156

shame on some of you

OKAY, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THIS THREAD HAS TAKEN A VERY NASTY TURN TOWARDS ATTACKING ME. I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO SIT HERE & GO THROUGH ALL YOUR BS. I HAVE NOT READ ALL THE NEW POSTS & DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING POSTIVE TO SAY THAT CAN HELP ME OUT HERE, TAKE YOUR NASTINESS TO A DIFFERENT THREAD IF YOU FIND IT THAT IMPORTANT TO BE ON THE ATTACK & NOT SUPPORT FO ME DURING A VERY TRYING TIME!

IF YOU HAVE TRUE LEGTIMATE OFFERS OF HELP PM OR E-MAIL ME & I WILL GET TO A COMPUTER AGAIN WHEN I CAN. MY MOST SINCERE THANKS.

WHILE I AM EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO THOSE OFFERING TO TAKE IN MY HORSES FOR 3 WEEKS OUT OF STATE, LET’S BE REALISTIC, IT IS NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS NOT EVEN A COUCH AVAILABLE FOR ME TO STAY UPON THERE FOR ME TO SHIP MY HORSES THERE FOR SUCH A SHORT PERIOD. AND ALL THE OTHER ONLY PARTIAL SCENARIOS THAT RUN ALONG THE SAME VEIN, IT SIMPLY IS NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR ME TO ACCEPT THEM EITHER. SURELY THAT MAKES SENSE TO THOSE OF YOU ATTACKING ME? WHICH WHO ARE YOU TO BE ATTACKING ME WHEN YOU HAVE NO TRUE & HONEST CLUE AS TO THE SPECIFICS OF ANY OFFERS POSSIBLY GIVEN TO ME???

I HAVE NEVER EVER PUBLICALLY SPOKEN ABOUT THIS ON COTH AS I HAVE WANTED TO BE TREATED AS EVERYONE ELSE. I AM A PERSON WITH DISABILITIES WITH A SOON TO BE RETIRED SERVICE DOG & A HAVE THE REPLACEMENT DOG IN MY POSSESSION. GETTING RID OF THEM IS NOT AN OPTION, P-E-R-I-0-D. Some here privately know about my SD’s & have respected my privacy. Thank you. I am extremely humiliated to feel forced into speaking of them now, just in order to quell some of the vicious attacks I am recieving from you not in my shoes.

DOES IT MAKE YOU PROUD THAT I FEEL FORCED IN TO PUBLICALLY ANNOUNCING HERE THAT I AM A TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY SURVVIOR THAT FUNCTIONS VERY BEST I CAN, WHICH IS ACTUALLY AT A PRETTY DARN HIGH LEVEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF IT IS NOT UP TO YOUR STANDARDS, THEN DO TELL HOW DOES ATTACKING ME (HANDICAPPED OR NOT) HELP ME IN ANY WAY??? IF YOU WANT ME TO FUCNTION BETTER, THEN HELP ME TO FUNCTION BETTER, NOT KICK ME DOWN EVEN FURTHER.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE & HELPFUL TO SAY, TAKE IT ELSEWHERE, AS YOU ARE JUST CLUTTERING UP MY THREAD WASTING MY TIME WITH YOU ATTACKS THAT I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO READ THROUGH SLOWING ME DOWN TRYING TO FIND THE LEGITMATE POSTS OF HELP.

CHANTER

#157

[QUOTE=Wendy123;2097312]
I am not on the board claiming to be a vet professional and never claimed to be a perfect speller. I would assume a “vet professional” would use the correct vet terms and be able to spell the breed of a horse correctly. I wonder also about the poster’s story in totality but would give her the benefit of the doubt since it appears that the welfare of the horses (and her) is at risk. I wonder at the counter post of this supposed vet tech as well because the tone, grammer, and spelling of the post seem rather juvenile![/QUOTE]

What about the tone, grammar and spelling of the OP?

#158

ok so now Chanter chimes in but, again gives no detail of her plan…In my opinion she is responsible for her animals and if she’s not making a change SHE is putting them in harms way herself. I do feel sorry for her but, it seems like she complains but, again is doing nothing…

#159

I’ve been following along with this thread and the more I read (or don’t read), the more doubts are generated. I know Christmas is a lonely time for some people and maybe the OP just needed some attention. I have spent many Christmas mornings alone (had to feed horses) and it can be sad. Maybe OP needed comforting and just didn’t know how to ask for it, so this crisis was created to guarantee plenty of responses.

One of the things that bothered me are her posts on the “Thank Your SS” thread. Earlier in the day, she is chirping along about all the gifts she received and her giftees are exclaiming over her generosity and then a few hours later on the same day, she suddenly has not been paid in 3 weeks and is being abused?!

Maybe she just didn’t want to bring people down? Maybe it suddenly overwhelmed her and she just had to scream for help?

Having been in similar situations, ex-husband threatening to shoot my horse, BO having a nervous breakdown and telling everyone to get the hell out, etc., etc. - I know, you can do what must be done - you just have to DO IT.

Just some thoughts…

#160

I thought all service dogs for the handicapped have to be spayed or neutered? Why would Chanter have intact males in her possession, if that’s what they are? :confused: Seriously folks, I’m asking a legitimate question here.

And when did they authorize Shitzhus and Pit Bull crosses as service dogs? Those dogs are usually Goldens or Labradors.

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