[QUOTE=Kmsuds;6508989]
Jetsetter you are too young to realize what an ass you have made of yourself.[/QUOTE]
Thanks!!!:lol:
[QUOTE=Daventry;6508999]
I don’t think so! You on the other hand…;)…but you did say you were putting your flame suit on. ;)[/QUOTE]
BUMP!!!
[QUOTE=Daventry;6508999]
I don’t think so! You on the other hand…;)…but you did say you were putting your flame suit on. ;)[/QUOTE]
Yes Daventry for comments that I made. Not to be attributed to comments not made by me.
but you as a business person know how damaging comments can effect your business right?
[QUOTE=jetsetter;6509005]
BUMP!!![/QUOTE]
Sorry Jetsetter, decided I had a better plan for you 
I am curious how when you look at all the pictures on her website, the babies are running through fields of tall grass, yet it doesn’t seem that she has any of those. Where are those fields?
Oh yes, and that’s what Jill’s big problem is. :rolleyes: She’s not to blame for any of what’s happening. Give me a break! :lol::lol:
Across the street at the neighbours. :rolleyes:
Oh and another question. Does she have a barn or do the mares just foal in the pens with everybody else?
[QUOTE=dianehalpin;6508282]
A person like Ms. Burnell who blames her mother for losing a mare’s papers, which was the situation as explained by one registry to me in my struggle to get my Redwine filly’s papers (the email has been printed and saved), must be a terrible, terrible disappointment to the mother, which, in my opinion, is the greatest tragedy in this sad story. [/QUOTE]
It’s obvious where the lost papers are after looking through those photos! She can’t find them or they’ve got dog $h1t on them! The state of chaos in her home explains MANY of the problems people have had with her.
I think the pictures of the horses looked okay given the area but it’s obvious that the chaos in her home HAS spilled over into her business, in her inability to provide (locate) paperwork over and over again, and the shameful state of her breeding lab!
[QUOTE=Daventry;6509025]
Oh yes, and that’s what Jill’s big problem is. :rolleyes: She’s not to blame for any of what’s happening. Give me a break! :lol::lol:[/QUOTE]
Seriously? how to you get me saying she’s not to blame out of that. :no:
I was referring to you and you alone.
Ah, gotcha I thought you were sticking up for Jill regarding comments others are making on this thread about her.
As for my comments about Jill…I’m good with them! :yes:
Crossed with the right mare? YES. :yes:
[QUOTE=Daventry;6509041]
Ah, gotcha I thought you were sticking up for Jill regarding comments others are making on this thread about her.
As for my comments about Jill…I’m good with them! :yes:[/QUOTE]
nothing to do with your comments about Jill. But if someone puts a title say “axe murderer” next to your name and blasts in on COTH you don’t feel there is an issue there? you don’t feel that the credibility starts to fail in all of this when people are crying conspiracy, calling out people randomly because they feel like it?
[QUOTE=Lynnwood;6508511]
You might be as mental as she at this point! The most depressing picture of the whole lot was the tiny make shift bed crammed in the corner with rows and rows of pill bottles and trash lining the area CLEARLY a space intended for one of her elderly parents! http://www.flickr.com/photos/51498400@N03/7780758414/in/set-72157631063762854
I can tell you for a fact from the dozens of elderly pulled from horrifying conditions the often feel as if they have no choice being unable to care for themselves and the fear of being forced into nursing homes and hospices keeps their mouths closed while they endure the most appalling conditions. :sadsmile::sadsmile:
It speaks no shouts to me that if she could not clean up her act to properly care for her ailing parents happily subjecting them to that filth there is no saving grace. This thread and the many others and their resonating cacophony of claims and judgments against her should be enough…yet even when photos of physical filth and dehumanizing conditions are provided SOME people continue to defend her. Maybe their mental health should also be taken into question.[/QUOTE]
This speaks loudest to me to me too. Anyone who will force an elderly person (or child) to live in that sh*t and squalor is a horrible, awful excuse for a human. It says everything about how little Jill cares for anyone else but herself. I’m so sorry to hear that the parent(s?) had to live like that - that’s so dehumanizing.
So easy to get lost in this wild thread…but Cartier and VB…whose phenotype ? I actually watched one of the said stallions and while my mere mortal hunter embedded soul cannot be trusted? :lol: Not sure re “phenotype”? Continues to amaze me how so many breed to stallions not seen in person when we have a) no true “hunter” data re breeding and no DAM data at all and b) no proven “phenotype” for hunters other than the fabulous TBs of yesteryear!
I myself …think any Rotspon offspring a bit meh for hunters…performing hunters that is…but jmho
Just wondering what will happen to those who have purchased 2013 Inutero foals from Jill?
Sad. This is obviously someone who has a severe mental illness. Even sadder to see family destroy her as thoroughly as they can when what this woman needs is help. Hope this serves as a wakeup call and she receives the therapy she needs and her animals find a safe place to fall.
I don’t think publicly destroying someone this mentally ill is the right thing to do. This type of behavior is beyond laziness, or selfishness which are regular character flaws. This woman is truly mentally ill.
I truly hope she gets help before any more animals have to suffer, and that the fangs are retracted here and the witch hunt called off. Where is everyone’s human compassion? How can you not feel compassion and sadness for this truly sick woman?
If I was an axe murderer, then everyone would be justified in slinging mud at me. But when I’ve got a few close friends who have been personally wronged by Jill Burnell and have heard it directly from the horses mouth, so to speak, the proof is in the pudding unfortunately 
And then there are the countless people who have emailed or PM’d me to tell me their “Jill horror story”. :no:
I will agree, and have on other threads though that, despite what a few are saying, Redwine is a lovely stallion, his foals are lovely, and thank God, the horses seem to be the one thing that Jill had done right by and kept them in decent shape (yeah they are in a dry lot and some of them might not have shelters, etc., but they’ve always looked in decent weight and looked after). I suspect though that enough people have been burned that they are just hurt and lashing back. Can’t really blame them. This is an expensive sport!
Unfortunately, the whole Gray Fox Farm seems to be an intricate “house of cards”. Hoarding can be a debilitating sickness.
[QUOTE=hundredacres;6509061]
This speaks loudest to me to me too. Anyone who will force an elderly person (or child) to live in that sh*t and squalor is a horrible, awful excuse for a human. It says everything about how little Jill cares for anyone else but herself. I’m so sorry to hear that the parent(s?) had to live like that - that’s so dehumanizing.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. Additionally, I hope the animals in the house get rescued. As to the mares in the dry lots, that is not how we keep mares and foals here in Virginia. If you are her friend, please rescue those animals. I do not feel the empathy for her that others have expressed; I think she should be criminally charged for elder abuse and animal cruelty.
[QUOTE=Anteup;6508864]
A “friend of Jill’s” whom I can assume was actually Jill in alter, PMed me, somehow knew I had a foal by Apiro, and proceeded to bash him, telling me that his foals don’t jump well, but that Redwine’s foals ALL jumped superbly. Not to mention some other nasty comments she made. I was told NOT to rebreed to him.[/QUOTE]
Jill was wrong… They jump well.
