[QUOTE=skydy;6775724]
That info. was included in the ratemyhorsepro article.[/QUOTE]
Daventry insisted it was in COTH. It no longer appears in that article or in RMHP as noted by Dazednconfused. And skydy, Rate My Horse is the ‘People Magazine’ of the horse industry. Surely you know better than to believe everything in those rags. Or maybe not…
And if Lauriep says she knowledge of the situation I’d be inclined to accept what she has to say.
While I agree that virtually any home would be better than remaining with Jill I do think there is an extremely good chance she is doing more hiding of horses than legit rehoming and that the horses would be better off in the long run if they had someone sane choosing their next home ie MHS. I also think the name calling and allegations being thrown back and forth deflect attention from where it belongs which is squarely on Jill Burnell’s shoulders. It was one thing when she just had human victims, it has gone to another level now and we need to make sure we don’t interfere with justice being done for the animal’s sake.
[QUOTE=daisycutter87;6776839]
Lets turn this thread around and make it a productive one once again. If you really want to help; donate funds, any supplies, and participate in the Auction to help Marin County. [/QUOTE]
^^^^THIS!!
and
[QUOTE=Justa Bob;6776732]Thank you for mentioning the fundraising. Please spread the word in your local horse community. If we all pitch a little, we can make all the difference. Its the soon to foal mares that need the safety net we can provide. Marin is watching - and we can support them.
If anyone has a few extra dollars, COTHers have been asked by the Harrisburg Humane Society to help the 26 Morgans seized, which is outstripping the HHS capacity for funds. Not to divert, but the situation is very serious and the first news report is now out.
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?383899-Morgan-horses-dead-amp-dying-in-Central-PA-UPDATE-Supplies-needed-post-47/page3&highlight=morgan
Waiting for real news on the Marin situation is difficult - but the power of COTHers to make right is awesome. We have that to work with. Who doesn’t love COTH magic?[/QUOTE]
^^^^^THIS!
I swear this mess is draining the life force out of me. I cannot tell you how many hours that have been spent behind the scenes organizing the auction, setting it up, asking for donations, posting information up, etc. And we have several people to thank for that. You people KNOW who you are!
I am NOT happy about some of the things that have transpired. But, I can’t change that. What is done is done. So, if we can’t change the past, maybe just maybe, we can do something about the future. I’m putting my faith and money and energy towards who I KNOW are the good guys in this - Marin Humane Society. To that end, we are still accepting donations for items, breedings, services, etc. We have been overwhelmed by the community and have been thrilled by the response and generosity. This has been a smear on the industry as a whole and in particular sport horse breeding. I think it’s safe to say that we are ALL angry, but I would prefer channeling that energy productively. People tend to remember the negative about things, but lets TRY and make this so overwhelmingly positive that it eclipses the bad juju here!
To that end, surely there is something in the auction that you NEED :D!!! And without further ado - here’s the items that are closing this evening!
Starting: Sat Jan 12 21:10:00 2013
Sat Jan 12 21:10:00 2013 EST or 5 minutes after last bid 1 Breeding to the Weser Ems stallion, Bodyguard
Sat Jan 12 21:25:00 2013 EST or 5 minutes after last bid 1 Breeding to the Hanoverian Stallion, Escapade
Sat Jan 12 21:40:00 2013 EST or 5 minutes after last bid 1 Breeding to the Welsh Mountain Pony, Section “A” Stallion, My-Mar Dunvegin
Sat Jan 12 21:55:00 2013 EST or 5 minutes after last bid 1 Breeding to the Perlino Czech Warmblood Stallion, Sagar
Sat Jan 12 22:10:00 2013 EST or 5 minutes after last bid 1 dose of Grand Cru Frozen semen
There are LOTS of people that are doing everything in their power to help rectify this mess NONE of which is their creation. There is an entire AUCTION dedicated to helping the cause and as far as I can tell, I don’t see ANY of Rising Star’s stallions donated to that. How odd? However, RSF has “heroically” laughs sarcastically swooped in and “rescued” Romantic Star from the evil hands of Jill Burnell/GFF. Gimme a break. Oh but wait - she’s also represented by the SAME attorney as JB/GFF. Hmmm. I’m unsure as to why that should be disregarded as fact. WHY is that, do you think? Birds of a feather? And then she has the audacity to whine about not getting updates on Romantic Star from the Marin Humane Society.
REALLY??
I find it absolutely baffling that people are trashing Ronda. She doesn’t have the horse, doesn’t apparently have access to the horse, nor can she get information about the horse that she bought, paid for, arranged shipping–all of which I would imagine she finds terribly disturbing.
If I were in her shoes, the last thing I would want to do is rock a boat–including participating in the fundraising efforts. What if JB saw that as sabotage and hid the horse or sold him to someone else while pocketing RSF’s check (if she were to get him back)? She’s certainly capable of it as she’s shown previously.
I don’t find Ronda’s actions questionable at all, I find them to be quite smart and indicative of character. She likely knows the stallion, LIKES the stallion, and saw an opportunity to get him out of a crap hole.
The attorney situation certainly seemed unusual and I’m glad they have corrected.
(I exchanged PMs with Rising Star Farm when her name was first brought up in this thread).
I hope that this mess can be resolved soon and I am glad that Romantic Star will have a great home when he recovers.
EquineReproduction you are a star, all of those who have worked so hard putting this auction together deserve our thanks and support!
ETA Ratemyhorse pro has not corrected…
I’m glad the articles have been corrected re: the lawyer. I admit I had a !!! reaction when I first saw that RSF was doing business with JB, but I’m willing to give RSF the benefit of the doubt until something is proven otherwise. RSF’s posts both here and on Facebook over the years have been nothing but professional and aboveboard (as far as I know/remember). I think the timing is the biggest issue of all, and as the saying goes, the truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. I just hope RSF saw Romantic Star in person before she bought him and fully understood the situation she was getting into…although on the 17th she probably wouldn’t have realized this was going to blow up as soon as or as big as it did once MHS started seizing horses. Or that RS would be one of the horses seized.
I also agree that RSF’s lawyer is likely telling her to make no public comments on pending legal matters…that is standard (and smart). Her earlier FB post was probably vetted by her lawyers prior to being posted. I hope she only had good intentions (if somewhat lacking in sense and forethought), and if so, that her business is not harmed in the long run. As another saying goes…if you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas… Either way hopefully RS recovers and spends the rest of his days well cared for in a good, proper home.
This cutie needs a bid or two. Come on, someone out there must want a lovely half Welsh pony or horse foal running around their pastures in 2014 or beyond. http://www.legup-auction.org/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=stallions&item=1358130300
This is how you can help - please share the auction info on your local equestrian facebook pages and in your barns.
Can you please report here where you have posted? We can begin to see what communities have been notified and look for others to reach out to.
I am not a writer by any stretch - so please improve - but here is a ready-to-repost statement. 
Marin County Horse seizure case donations needed
Marin Humane Society needs help in a case involving an estimated 24-30 horses, including many pregnant mares. Four horses have been seized from Gray Fox Farm, a warmblood breeder, and an investigation is on-going. Foaling season is coming and legal and care costs are significant. Equestrians nationwide have joined to donate stallion breedings, items and cash. Please join us - every little bit helps.
Marin County horse fund raiser:
http://www.leg-up.org/marin-county-fund-raisingauctiondonation-page.html
Auction page:
http://www.legup-auction.org/main
Cites/sites, please. It’s not been corrected on ratemyhorsepro.com that I can see.
[QUOTE=Dazednconfused;6776846]
Pretty important correction…
The articles have been corrected to reflect that Jill Burnell and Ronda Stavisky are not represented by the same attorney. That was in one of the articles early on, but apparently is not true.
I’d be surprised if Rising Star didn’t retain counsel of her own however, and they have instructed her to not discuss the matter. That’s usually how things like that go. Even if she didn’t hire an attorney or the attorney didn’t say not to talk about it, what good would it do? She doesn’t really have any obligation to COTH to talk about the particulars of the sale. I’m sure it will all come out in the end anyway.[/QUOTE]
These sources have been notified about the Leg-Up - Marin County horse fund raiser:
Brent Ainsworth - Novato Patch. He was thanked for his several reports
Marin Indepedent Journal - also thanked for reporting
Marin Horse Council - thanked for their posts about the MSH seizure, hopefully they will share the Leg-Up fund raiser. Also noted that auction item donations are being accepted.
The Horse.com - thanked for coverage
Included in the request to publicize the fund raiser:
Highlighting the story of equestrians united nationwide to raise funds for the Marin County horses - its really cool! Also added information about mares ready to foal, Marin HS monitoring the deprivation of the mares and the winter conditions without shelter during foaling season. Plus the generous stallion owners donating breedings.
Sorry - obviously my posts are thread killers. Hopefully spreading the word will result in fund raising. 
Justa Bob, you’re great. It makes me all warm and fuzzy to see so many COTHers
spring into action for the benefit of these unfortunate horses.
[QUOTE=vineyridge;6776912]
Cites/sites, please. It’s not been corrected on ratemyhorsepro.com that I can see.[/QUOTE]
http://www.chronofhorse.com/article/updated-humane-society-seizes-four-horses-gray-fox-farm
http://www.marinij.com/novato/ci_22327901/marin-authorities-seize-more-horses-from-chileno-valley
Same with Patch too…
http://novato.patch.com/articles/2-more-neglected-horses-taken-in-at-breeder-s-ranch
RMHP may not have been updated but every other article has been.
Good lord, an entire page stating the articles have been changed. Did anybody actually go back to those articles and check before posting it on COTH? Show me in the two articles below where the information has been corrected?
Dazednconfused, the articles you posted above never did site that information in the first place. That information was not posted in every article out there. The two articles below were the ones that originally stated it, and they have not been recently edited.
[QUOTE=Daventry;6775743]
From Rate My Horse Pro:
[I]“A warmblood breeder for years, Burnell’s Gray Fox Farm lists the stallions Redwine, Romantic Star, Federalist, and Aloha. According to Ronda Stavisky, she purchased Romantic Star prior to his injury and seizure from Burnell. She says she is unaware of the horse’s present condition. Weems is also representing Stavisky.”
[/I]http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/news/court-denies-burnells-petition-new-issues-arise.aspx
Also found it in this article:
“Weems, whose office is in Fairfax, said she also represents a Georgia woman who bought the stallion and was waiting for it to be shipped before it was injured and confiscated.”
http://www.marinij.com/novato/ci_22327901?source=pkg[/QUOTE]
Please, donate to the auction or to Marin Humane Society if you are interested in helping! :yes:
[QUOTE=CrowneDragon;6776103]
I have been loosely following this saga, but I saw that Rising Star Farm had recently gotten a health cert for Romantic Star to be shipped, so his body condition must have been deemed suitable for the travel.[/QUOTE]
Not at all ethical but I have seen vets do Health Certs without ever taking off a horses blanket , taking a temp or doing an exam.
There are a myriad of ways a horse in poor condition could have still acquired a heath cert to travel. We also do not know the story that was spun to the official who examined the horse. Skinny unwell horses are shipped across the country all the time.
[QUOTE=Daventry;6776936]
Good lord, an entire page stating the articles have been changed. Did anybody actually go back to those articles and check before posting it on COTH? Show me in the two articles below where the information has been corrected?
Please, donate to the auction or to Marin Humane Society if you are interested in helping! :yes:[/QUOTE]
No need to be snarky. Yes, I did in fact go back and read them. Maybe you’re the one who needs to read for comprehension. Just because an attorney says they are representing someone does not make it true (and just because it’s posted by RMHP doesn’t make it true either). More sources than not have been corrected to indicate the attorney isn’t representing Rising Star. Curious as to what your interest is so vested in here…
[QUOTE=Dazednconfused;6776941]
No need to be snarky. Yes, I did in fact go back and read them. Maybe you’re the one who needs to read for comprehension. Just because an attorney says they are representing someone does not make it true (and just because it’s posted by RMHP doesn’t make it true either). More sources than not have been corrected to indicate the attorney isn’t representing Rising Star. Curious as to what your interest is so vested in here…[/QUOTE]
Because I would like to see people helping out and donating and making sure the horses are looked after. Plan and simple.
Marin Humane Society Fundraiser:
http://www.leg-up.org/marin-county-fund-raisingauctiondonation-page.html
Marin Humane Society Donations:
https://www.kintera.org/site/c.aiIOI3NLKgKYF/b.8490959/k.5C3E/West_Marin_Horse_Case/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp?c=aiIOI3NLKgKYF&b=8490959&en=clLNK3NLLbIWKdPOLaITJaOZIvK7IgPXIpL0J9MULlIXKjOaF
[QUOTE=Justa Bob;6776732]
Thank you for mentioning the fundraising. Please spread the word in your local horse community. If we all pitch a little, we can make all the difference. Its the soon-to-foal mares that need the safety net we can provide. Marin is watching - and we can support them.
If anyone has a few extra dollars, COTHers have been asked by the Harrisburg Humane Society to help the 26 Morgans seized, which is outstripping the HHS capacity for funds. Not to divert, but the situation is very serious and the first news report is now out.
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?383899-Morgan-horses-dead-amp-dying-in-Central-PA-UPDATE-Supplies-needed-post-47/page3&highlight=morgan
Waiting for real news on the Marin situation is difficult - but the power of COTHers to make right is awesome. We have that to work with. Who doesn’t love COTH magic?[/QUOTE]
Bump
[QUOTE=Daventry;6776948]
Because I would like to see people helping out and donating and making sure the horses are looked after. Plan and simple.[/QUOTE]
I don’t understand why that has anything to do with correcting factual information on the situation. You have plenty of posts and threads about your auction…Don’t know how anyone could’ve missed them or my posting a correction is mutually exclusive or diversionary.
GFF’s website still lists Romantic Star as a standing stallion, and his ad on warmbloods.com is still active (on sale!). Also, a google search of Romantic Star Stallion shows no hits that he has been seized or changed hands, so there could be some confusion in interested parties if they don’t know what has happened to him.
[QUOTE=Dazednconfused;6776961]
I don’t understand why that has anything to do with correcting factual information on the situation. You have plenty of posts and threads about your auction…Don’t know how anyone could’ve missed them or my posting a correction is mutually exclusive or diversionary.[/QUOTE]
dazedandconfused, you may be. I read all those articles days ago. Now I’m not saying my memory is faultless, but I don’t recall COTH ever mentioning that Weems represented the new stallion owner. It might have. Nor would that be pertinent in an article on the mandamus petition or the January 7th article that did not mention that RS had been sold.
Usually when an article in a reputable news publication is corrected, there will be a notation that it HAS been corrected and what the correction was. None of the articles has that notation.
This is why I hate internet journalism–it’s too ephemeral to be trusted. " Facts" can change without notice and no one is ever the wiser.
The two that clearly stated that Weems was involved with the new RS owner have not “corrected” themselves.
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