Eagle: How did you find this thread? I may be wrong, but you don’t appear to be a horse person.
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, you argue with obvious professionals on this board. So what’s your angle? How did you even find this board to comment on it? I don’t get it.
Obvious professionals? That’s evidenced by the conduct on this Board! By the way, my comments on the “Lab” were in reference to the condition. The SIL has apparently disappeared and someone posted that she stole the camera ( I know, not what the lynch mob wants to hear so discredit it ) and entered the premises illegally. What’s stopping the SIL from setting this whole thing up? Someone commented that “yes, indeed that’s her lab I’ve been there” yet hasn’t answered if she immediately left the premises due to the conditions. With a little research, this breeder has used Redwine as late as 2010, why not warn the community if you witnessed such appalling conditions? Isn’t that what this whole thread is about, warning people about the alledged criminal behaviour? It’s obvious this person is highly respected in the Industry, why no warnings?
How did I find this Board? It was real difficult! I googled Jill burnell/ gray fox farms as I was curious if some of the mares had foaled and what their offspring looked like! Low and behold it was what, 3rd hit? No conspiracy, just curiosity.
Idaziens, for the record the Airline Captain is the one responsible for the $200 million dollar aircraft and the 250 souls sitting in the back. Other than making a P.A., customer service is left to the customer service agents and cleaning is left to the cleaners.
Again. Her house, her lab, her parents are irrelevant. What is relevant is the untold number of people who have been ripped off by Jill Burnell of Gray Fox Farm. We are attempting to put an end to the unethical business practices she employs so that no one else is scammed. Arguing about anything other than that is a smoke screen. Got it now or must we continue to state this over and over?
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Again. Her house, her lab, her parents are irrelevant. What is relevant is the untold number of people who have been ripped off by Jill Burnell of Gray Fox Farm. We are attempting to put an end to the unethical business practices she employs so that no one else is scammed. Arguing about anything other than that is a smoke screen. Got it now or must we continue to state this over and over?[/QUOTE]
Finally someone states the mission statement! Remember though how this all started, Her house, her lab, her parents…Nothing about scamming in post 1!
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“Mike is a commercial airline pilot; so his concept of customer service, cleanliness, and best business practices are based on commercial aviation. And anyone who flies knows what a delightful experience it is to try to get from point A to point B on a commercial airline”
Here we go! The Modus Operandi continues! Don’t like what someone has to say, attack their profession, works every time! Obviously you have no idea of the role of a wide body Captain! Keep going, great entertainment and I won’t stoop to your level and name call or try to minimize your career…[/QUOTE]
When I fly, I am paying your salary as well as paying for the most dismal cutomer service experience money can buy. Try riding in coach and checking your bags. I was actually trying to make an excuse for you.
Minimize my career – I am a teacher and farmer married to a Naval Officer who also has WINGS, and a SWO pin, and a SUB pin and the daughter of a retired Air Force Officer. So, step right up into it Mike. We fully expect that a guy who defends Jill Burnell would not hesitate to minimize the teaching and farming professions and military spouses and families. GO AHEAD & MAKE MY DAY!
Idaziens, something got lost here in our exchange! You stated that my “concept of customer service, cleanliness, and best business practices are based on commercial aviation” I took that as derogatory, wouldn’t you especially after your statement of “When I fly, I am paying your salary as well as paying for the most dismal cutomer service experience money can buy”
As a fellow farmer, commissioned officer ( 3rd generation ), and volunteer High School Football coach that has the utmost respect for my 6 fellow coaches that are teachers, you’re wrong!
My business practices are not based on Commercial Aviation, they’re based on my farm and my dedication to customer service. Which is why in your words I defend Jill. I’m not defending Jill in her business practices because I have none with her. But what I am defending is the unsubstantiated claims ( other than the judgement listed ) that haven’t been proffered up and I’m not willing to believe in heresay!
Thanks for paying my salary, the family appreciates your business!
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Again. Her house, her lab, her parents are irrelevant. What is relevant is the untold number of people who have been ripped off by Jill Burnell of Gray Fox Farm. We are attempting to put an end to the unethical business practices she employs so that no one else is scammed. Arguing about anything other than that is a smoke screen. Got it now or must we continue to state this over and over?[/QUOTE]
And eagle74 is irrelevant as well, so I really don’t understand why so many of you keep “feeding” him?! I’m not in this fight (other than having admired Redwine in the past), just observing from the sidelines, and even I have had enough of eagle to make him only the second person to ever make my ignore list. I suggest that you all do the same.
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And eagle74 is irrelevant as well, so I really don’t understand why so many of you keep “feeding” him?! I’m not in this fight (other than having admired Redwine in the past), just observing from the sidelines, and even I have had enough of eagle to make him only the second person to ever make my ignore list. I suggest that you all do the same.:)[/QUOTE]
I’m deeply hurt…
IGNORE is INSTANT HAPPINESS!
Thx to horsepoor; I figured out there is a TROLL KILL tool at CotH, which is so much more effective than the death by a thousand papercuts / endless troll feeding.
In case others need help -
Click on poster’s name
Select Public Profile
Select " ADD ___ to YOUR IGNORE LIST" – it’s opposite the “ADD to BUDDY LIST” option
But, I am sure y’all already knew all that.
I am currently deploying TROLL KILL / IGNORE for all of our alters, houseguests, and a$$hats; and my thread looks so very, very much better. Love, Light, and Unicorns…
Mandarin: if you are going the “jealous route” at least read that it’s been done before on this thread. And, here’s what I have to say about that: which bnt will ride or handle jills horses now that she’s not paid john French and scammed Brandon (he even reported it on this thread!!!), that’s right, NOONE. And no offense, but gray fox farm/Jill Burnell/her stallions are barely (think in the 400s if I’m correct) even ranked on the actual hunter performance national ranking sooooooo… Yeah.
To all the rest of Jill’s multiple personalities on this thread… Want this to go away? Stop scamming people, start paying your professionals, and start being honest about EVA so you don’t cause a HUGE EVA problem.
Peace out thread!!!
Ding ding ding. You hit the nail on the head. People need to ignore him. He is just trying to get people’s panties in a bunch so he can giggle about it.
Ignore ignore ignore.
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Finally someone states the mission statement! Remember though how this all started, Her house, her lab, her parents…Nothing about scamming in post 1![/QUOTE]
The lab is very relevant to the scamming, in my mind. The unsanitary conditions could have and probably are directly contributing to uterine infections, poor semen quality, and the spread of the EVA virus. Her lack of organization results in lost papers, delayed shipments of semen, and even some of her financial issues, most likely.
The angry accusations of stolen cameras, out of context photos, and whining that the parents could have lived in a travel trailer and left at any time (not buying that one, I am sure there was a reason they stayed even in terrible conditions) points to a person who makes excuses and is self-centered.
So all of this evidence does relate to the fact that despite having a marvelous group of stallions (and their offspring), GFF has some serious issues that need to be addressed for the good of the horse community.
Eagle:
How did I find this Board? It was real difficult! I googled Jill burnell/ gray fox farms as I was curious if some of the mares had foaled and what their offspring looked like! Low and behold it was what, 3rd hit? No conspiracy, just curiosity.[/QUOTE]
Correct me if im wrong; but it is now August and foaling season is way past done. Wern’t you the person who posted pictures of this years foals; also?
I know, kind of hard to believe a horse womans bf would sit down and google some lady who owned a farm where they went to look at foals. Like so many non horsey bfs give a rats ass about that sort of thing.
Who cares about his career…or him. He’s a troll…
Sorry if this was already answered: do JB’s lab conditions mean breeding to any of her stallions might be an EVA risk, not just Redwine?
And for the person who says that Jill is stiffing people because so many people have stiffed her,
WHY THE FARK IS SHE BUYING / TAKING ON MORE MARES?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0WvJrEuJTk
Sheesh.
Donatella,
absolutely there is a risk regardless of which semen you use. If the semen is handled in that ‘lab’, next to EVA positive samples, dirt, grime and disorganization, there is risk for a whole host of things to go wrong. I for one would never shoot anything into my mare that was concocted in conditions like what was in the photographs.
For someone who keeps being adamant about not knowing Jill, not being a horse person, just going to Jill’s with a friend and not defending her…46 posts later, here you are! I can’t think of a non-horsey man in their right mind that would post 5 times on this thread let alone 46. Wouldn’t your efforts be more productive on a board or forum defending, say, innocent victims of pedophiles, innocent victims of sexual abuse or serial killers? Since you’re a football coach and at least have some knowledge in the area of sports and coaching, why not help support and defend all of the kids out there who have been sexually abused by their sports coach. Wouldn’t that serve a much better purpose than this?
Seriously, this is the cause you decided to put all of your efforts into? Even I admit it’s starting to smell in here. I cry bulls#$t on the, “I’m just a guy that followed a friend to a farm.” If not, and this last statement is true, man, you got way to much time on your hands. :no:
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I don’t think I’d even feel comfortable prepping slides for a fecal flotation in that environment, nevermind semen or dinner :dead:[/QUOTE]
:yes: Best line in this whole thread! :yes:
