Why would you bother if you think it’s pointless?
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Please compare what I supposedly quoted for posterity to what she actually posted. I reversed the meaning of the last sentence. The fact that you can edit within the quote is what makes it useless as a record.
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I didn’t say it was quoting as a record, beyond the conversation between registered COTH members in the course of the conversation.
And editing would be why one would want the data from the source, in this case COTH, as I imagine they can see when and who edits and what gets edited.
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Looks like this thread has now taken that traditional turn down the path of becoming pedantic.
BTW, the second item I posted from the docket info was page one only. I did not include the signature page because the actual signature did not copy. For the life of me, I don’t understand why some refuse to pull up the links provided for information and review the info for themselves rather than insinuating the document wasn’t signed.
As always, walk on by.
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Nothing is ever truly deleted on the internet and, edit details are easily retrievable under court order if necessary.
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The bolded part is something many people do not understand…
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Plus it’s easy enough to just take a screenshot.
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For what it’s worth, there is nothing clickable for me on the docket search, so there’s nothing I can view.
Use this link: https://portal.njcourts.gov/webcivilcj/CIVILCaseJacketWeb/pages/publicAccessDisclaimer.faces?fbclid=IwAR3KToNYcgUKdD1lmanaItb_K4hWAFHQu5eVNTdD-FlyX046F-_x9GhQvAU 77
Once you “agree” and taken to the next page, you MUST chose search Civil Docket, then search by name, Michael Barisone, then enter. You will see a list of filings in date order. You can click on any of them or the attachments to read the document.
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@eggbutt I want to say thank you again for making using that site easier for those of us who are challenged. The posters here (general forum and this thread) that do this make things so much easier and I just want to make sure they know it!
@vxf111 I have a question that is probably more general than specific to this topic, but using this thread as the example. Just curious. When asked for social media posts and forum posts how does someone like LK turn that stuff over? Print the individual posts on paper and hand that over? Print the whole thread? Links to individual posts on the forum? Or is a link to a whole thread enough and they have to find the individual posts in the thread?
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@trubandloki Depends what format is requested/negotiated between the parties and the ease with which the posts can easily be converted to a different format. Here I would expect counsel to be satisfied with either hard copy printouts or PDF screenshots or something similar. If this was a high dollar securities class action they’d probably want more of a native format preserving metadata. But I’m guessing that in light of the circumstances SGF would probably be okay with any sort of fixed medium that shows them what was posted and when.
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yes that is what they want as there Many. Many posters in that thread telling the person who saying the were Lauren that she best not post anything …but that person continued posting in a gleeful manor like the kid who stole a candy bar from the store then tells their friend Here’s How Its Done then laughing about it. The posts and the thread do show intent.
Even after people were pointing out specifically that these post could and most likely would be used in court the person continued
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Apparently a lot of posters, because every time LK would post on her FB it would be reported here within minutes then dissected until the cows came home.
Sleuhting and internet stalking was going both ways here.
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Bad timing for the forum to change, a lot of posts were lost during that change it seems too.
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Where posts were lost in a thread? I understood that whole threads were lost, not individual posts.
Edit to fix bad typing.
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Not sure.
One could argue that in one case the subject of “stalking” and sleuthing is someone in the public sphere with media coverage, articles, interviews, etc. I’m sure plenty of us went to her very public facebook page, but how many of us commented on those posts? I don’t think @ake987 would be in the same realm of public consciousness.
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I don’t remember Lauren’s posts as mostly being “gleeful”. I viewed much of the content of the threads to be other posters blaming her for the shooting (Why didn’t you leave? Why did you poke the bear until you made him snap?”). Her posts sometimes responded to the hate, frankly, and on rare occasions provided information about the case.
As you yourself know, it is hardly unusual for COTHers to tell other posters not to post, often quite rudely.
Some posters claimed that they thought they were aiding Barisone’s side by “showing what Barisone was dealing with”.
I always thought that the importance of posts here or on Facebook for either trial was vastly overblown.
Evidence is rarely as black-and-white as television would make it seem. It is often corroborative of witness statements or determined facts, but is also used to impeach testimony. It is also used to establish the credibility of witnesses, etc.
There is indeed precedent for the social media activities of an individual playing a significant role at trial.
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