I wonder why the criminal defense team poured over thousands of pages of SM media (as reported in one of the legal briefs posted long ago that I will not search and repost for you). Everything is important when it comes to trial information.
It has been rumored that USEF has not taken action against LK for many of her incendiary posts because they can’t prove who her alters are or if she was the one actually posting on Facebook, etc. If this civil trial information is made available, I wonder if USEF will use it against her?
I don’t think Lauren would be considered a “public figure” in the sense that Ted Cruz is a public figure, not that I think that that is what you were referring to.
In terms of simply being being a private figure (legally), I disagree with you if you are saying she is fair game for stalking in a way others aren’t just because she is of greater interest because of the crime. It’s human nature they people will be more intrusive in her case, but that doesn’t make it right.
I agree with you in general terms. However, I would like to draw a distinction between her posts on COTH making specific statements on purported facts in the case, vs her general persona on SM.
If she said one thing on COTH re the gun or whether Barisone asked her to leave, and then says something different in court, that’s relevant. (Although SM posts are hardly sworn testimony.)
On the other hand, I have a really hard time believing that there’s much in the general SM stuff that would matter.
Hahahaha! Sued for saying I heard a rumor? Bring it on! Just as USEF could not sanction “eggbutt” without true knowledge of the identity of said alter, they can not sanction “LaLaPop…” either. Yes, several of her very old FB posts were investigated, but not all. Another rumor is they are waiting for the results of the criminal trial before speaking to her. As you say, with her penchant for law suits, why would USEF open themselves to litigation until a later date?
Facts matter. They asked for the delay because the “30,000” pages of information had been given to the defense within days of the date.
Regardless, as has been the case since August 7, 2019, this is all speculation, rumor, hearsay, hyperbole, imagination, etc on posts (except for LaLa).
Perhaps we should add disclaimers saying “for entertainment purposes only”.
You are passing along a rumor. Rumormongering. You are a rumormongerer. You did qualify it with “this is a rumor” instead of qualifying it with “I know for a fact”. I assume that distinction gives you comfort that you can’t be successfully sued.
Even aside from avoiding law suits, you’re unwilling to refrain from repeating unflattering rumors about a gunshot victim, apparently.
Lauren has made no attempt to post anonymously, and indeed the discovery demand required her to state flat out that the posts of La La Poprider were posted by her.
I agree that USDF cannot sanction COTH screen names, cartoon characters, or characters in literature.
Didn’t Lauren say that @eggbutt was going to be called as a witness for the prosecution in the criminal trial (if it happens)? I assumed that that meant that she knew @eggbutt s identity and could prove it and that the actual person posting as Eggbutt would be called to testify.
Of course I have no way of knowing for certain the identity of Eggbutt, but I did hear this rumor… I have no plans to pass along the rumor because 1) I’m too classy to deal in rumors, and 2) I’m appreciative that no one on this forum has ever attacked me by speculating on my identity. (#2 is sarcasm; I’m not sure whether #1 is sarcasm or not).
The courts would be totally overloaded if frivolous rumor suits were allowed. I doubt anyone on this forum has “defamed” LK. Opinion, speculation, fantasy are just that! Bless your heart. I have hit a nerve it seems.
CotHers… Seriously MB’s legal team should hire some people on here. People here sleuthe and did up drama for free anyway. I can make recommendations. Call me!
Interesting point that requesting someone report all their social media posts gets around the alter/pseudonym problem. The person has admitted to being the author behind the alter. Then they can’t deny that was their alter or account.
As far as what use these would be, I doubt there is any true forensic evidence in any of the posts I’ve seen that would be of much use in a criminal trial. However there is a lot that could be used to impugn the plaintiff in the civil law suit, and make her look undeserving to a judge or jury. And perhaps there was enough to fuel the plea bargain to a lesser charge, who knows.
I am purely speculating here but it wouldn’t surprise me if Barisone is pursuing some sort of excuse/justification/defense and/or mitigation in the criminal case. Proving LK’s conduct in and around the time of the shooting (including the extent to which she acted in a manner that provoked or threatened him) could help make those arguments. It also could help him defeat the mens rea or state of mind he’s accused of. I don’t know his legal team’s theory and I am not really interested in spinning out too deeply what MIGHT happen at a trial that hasn’t occured yet-- but I can see a reason why the social media posts might be of interest to his criminal defense team.
I know she has posted recently (to point out that the old threads were not locked anymore). I don’t think she has posted anything since then that could be even close to ban worthy so I am pretty sure she is not banned.
Hopefully the reason she is not posting is because she does not really have anything to add and she is following the direction of her lawyers to not post.
