I looked him up for you on USEF and sadly he is an “unknown” although his breed is listed as Dutch Warmblood.
Good example of my big pet peeve - not entering the breeding info into the database when a horse is listed! If they come from Europe they have papers!
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Anyone know Zagreb’s breeding ? I should add I’d love to know the actual bloodlines. The barn website says he is 9 yr old Dutch recently imported.[/QUOTE]
I think I found him on Horse Telex. Looks like he is by Saffraan—Sastrona, by Jonker.
Or, actually, there’s another 9-year-old chestnut KWPN named Zagreb, so he could also be Sonique—Taidora, by Houston.
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Good example of my big pet peeve - not entering the breeding info into the database when a horse is listed! If they come from Europe they have papers![/QUOTE]
Of course he had papers. But the papers may show him to be older and more accomplished than the importing trainer would like you to believe. Not too much of an issue now, but he may have missed those three years of pre-sub-baby green experience after being a 1.20 jumper in Europe.
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Of course he had papers. But the papers may show him to be older and more accomplished than the importing trainer would like you to believe. Not too much of an issue now, but he may have missed those three years of pre-sub-baby green experience after being a 1.20 jumper in Europe.[/QUOTE]
Last I checked, there were no eligibility requirements for equitation horses.
I forgot about Horse Telex - thanks ThaRidge. I looked up both sires and Saffraan is a gelders (harness) horse and the other one Sonique is a Hannoverian. I would guess that Zagreb is by Sonique based on the looks and movement. Didn’t see any harness type action in his movement, but you never know! 
I find breeding so interesting 
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Last I checked, there were no eligibility requirements for equitation horses.[/QUOTE]We both know that I know that. But it still stinks that you can’t look up bloodlines because papers get “lost.”
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We both know that I know that. But it still stinks that you can’t look up bloodlines because papers get “lost.”[/QUOTE]
It’s not that hard to look up bloodlines. www.horsetelex.com
Phelps has their report up on the finals and is reporting (along with USEF’s press release) that Stallone VDL has a strained muscle. http://www.phelpssports.com/viewarticle.php?id=10009759
There still aren’t full scores up-- I’d like to see where everyone ended up outside of the top 10, so I hope they’re posted soon.
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Honestly, he doesn’t look tired—just like a jerk.[/QUOTE]
I have never found a horse ever being “a jerk” They can’t talk, so the only way they can communicate is to misbehave.
I have a question. According to the class specs:
“Winners of twenty (20) Talent Search Classes may compete in the Finals if they have not reached their 21st birthday under
Federation rules, but are no longer eligible to compete in the *PLATINUM PERFORMACE/USEF SHOW JUMPING
TALENT SEARCH CLASS.”.
Lillie has 19 wins. Does this mean she won’t be able to qualify/show at next years final? That would really stink 
Exactly the opposite, comingback. Once you have 20 wins you can compete in the final every year (until you age out) without going through the qualifying process.
Once she wins one more class, she can compete in the final until she wins it or is showing as 21, but may not show in any qualifying classes prior to the finals. So she can go to Gladstone for the final until she turns 21 or wins, but she can’t show in the USEF class at WEF/Devon/HITS/anywhere.
Thanks Grover and BigEqRls!
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I have a question. According to the class specs:
“Winners of twenty (20) Talent Search Classes may compete in the Finals if they have not reached their 21st birthday under
Federation rules, but are no longer eligible to compete in the *PLATINUM PERFORMACE/USEF SHOW JUMPING
TALENT SEARCH CLASS.”.
Lillie has 19 wins. Does this mean she won’t be able to qualify/show at next years final? That would really stink :([/QUOTE]
I think it’s per year, not for lifetime, as in you can have up to 20 wins, but then you have to stop doing the class to give others a chance to qualify, lol.
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I think it’s per year, not for lifetime, as in you can have up to 20 wins, but then you have to stop doing the class to give others a chance to qualify, lol.[/QUOTE]
I think it’s unlikely Lillie’s 19 wins all happened during the current year. The rule used to be 20 wins lifetime IIRC. At one time there was no USET Final just a gold medal for 20 lifetime wins, bronze medal after 5 wins and silver after 10 wins.
The rule is per lifetime. The only yearly limit is 60 Maclay points.
Does anyone know if the feed from USET will be archived so it can be watched later? Hoping to watch it when I get back to the States…
I’ll send a mouse lemur picture to the first person to answer
It’s already up as VOD along with the West Coast Final. I’m not sure if they’ve finished loading everything, but they said they were going to.
Perfect, thanks!!
Perhaps it isn’t a rider issue at all, but a judge issue. And a “name” issue. I think I have seen certain east coast Eq riders names 1000 times in various paid ads in periodicals. And then I read that some of those same names are scoring in the high 80’s or even 90’s now in the USET east, despite clear- cutting through some jumps, or having quite sticky rounds that stand out as not very good according to some on this thread. Were they deserving of a 90, or whatever? Probably not according to spectators here with no " dog in the fight", and yet they will get top ribbons. If we keep stacking the deck with the " names", why should others bother?
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