Favorite Classical Trainer Nick Peronace VS USDF Judging Standards

[BigMama1]

@Nickperonace2

There are lots of very good pictures taken from that show. They can be found on the same page with all the bad ones. If you still need help, contact me. I have the good pictures and would be happy to share.
contactnickperonace@gmail.com

If you could share a few here that you think are good and explain to us what is good about them, that would be very helpful indeed. Consider it a virtual mini lesson

[Nickperonace2]

@trubandloki

What is most amusing is the fact that NP thought any of these judges knew who he was before he went in the ring and cared enough about who he was to change their typical judging practice for him.

He clearly thinks he is a bigger person than pretty much everyone else does.

I do hope that his family is not harmed by his delusions. There is a part of me that hopes this is all some fun family game and they sit around and giggle together coming up with even more off the wall things for him to say and do so they can laugh at how people react to him.

When you consider the 1000s upon 1000s of clicks a hate page like this gets, and COTH failing to interview me so I can tell my side seen by those same 1000s, its really not hard to believe. If youd like to talk more about it please email me at contactnickperonace@gmail.com

[BigMama1]

@RedmondDressage

I guess if I’ve gotta be stuck inside due to the wildfire smoke its a good day for it. This just got much more amusing :lol:

Break out the popcorn and the cardbordeaux - I have a feeling this is about to turn into a legendary thread of Open Trailer proportions :lol:

[Nickperonace2]

@Crockpot

There are no doubt lots of wannabes out there who have delusional rationalizations for why they bombed at some show -but they are not famous on CoTh :dead:

The only reason this joker is somehow significant is because Coth has made him significant.

Think about it.

:uhoh:

I’d be happy to work with you one on one so you can determine for yourself how “delusional” I am. I welcome you bringing your friends also. Unfortunately you sound grossly misinformed about me. Please contact me so we can set something up. Contactnickperonace@gmail.com

[Joanne]

Nick: It is spelled Prix St. George, not Pre-St. George.

[KBC]

@Nickperonace2

When you consider the 1000s upon 1000s of clicks a hate page like this gets, and COTH failing to interview me so I can tell my side seen by those same 1000s, its really not hard to believe. If youd like to talk more about it please email me at contactnickperonace@gmail.com

This is NOT a hate page, this is a message board, free to anyone who wants to post.

Do you not see the irony in complaining that COTH wouldn’t interview you, so those 1000’s could see your side, but you have the floor here and you want to message people one by one, when one explanation would reach the 1000’s you crave?

[BigMama1]

If Nick does prefer to answer every single question individually, he is welcome to do so by PMing each poster - that way nobody would have to give their personal email address out and it would save him the trouble of posting the exact same response over and over again

[Nickperonace2]

@Crockpot

this guy would be a nobody except Coth made him a somebody- JMO

Its attention I never asked for and have tried to get COTH to remove. COTH is a hate page and you can read more about it here
/nickperonace1.wordpress.com/2017/08/11/we-need-to-talk-about-it-part2/

Please contact me if you have questions contactnickperonace@gmail.com

[Nickperonace2]

@trubandloki

We are not the only forum in the world. This guy has been the talk on lots of forums. COTH did not make him anything. COTH (and the other forums) helped prevent him from [edit] people.

The only thing “prevented” was the truth
/nickperonace1.wordpress.com/2017/08/11/we-need-to-talk-about-it-part2/

If you still have questions please contact me contactnickperonace@gmail.com

[Nickperonace2]

@AltersAreUs

Actually, this guy was a nobody trumpeting himself all over the place as the best of the somebodies. Coth just called him out on it, proved his lies were lies and then he started threatening people. But yeah, I guess if you want to think he’s not doing the sport and horses any harm, well, that’s your opinion.

And seriously, I really wish someone had called out one of my past “trainers” who talked a good game but knew jack all about dressage. I spent $$$$ and years with her while not being able to consistently pull a 60 at training level. But hey, I was a newbie and she supposedly trained with Olympians so the problem must be me & my horse. Turns out, she was a groom for said Olympian for a summer but you’d never guess that seeing her resume. Sham instructors SHOULD be exposed for the cheats they are.

You are sadly mistaken in the events that occurred. Please read this then if you have questions contact me
/nickperonace1.wordpress.com/2017/08/11/we-need-to-talk-about-it-part2/

My email is contactnickperonace@gmail.com

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Nickperonace2

When you consider the 1000s upon 1000s of clicks a hate page like this gets, and COTH failing to interview me so I can tell my side seen by those same 1000s, its really not hard to believe. If youd like to talk more about it please email me at contactnickperonace@gmail.com

What? Coth interview you? Are you out of your…If you want to talk to the thousands of people you seem to want to address, do it. Coth isn’t going to INTERVIEW you. You’re just afraid to answer the concerns in a forum where people will respond to your answers. If you want to be interviewed, interview yourself again on your blog. Nobody can respond to you there, and anything you care to say will be online for everyone to read and discuss elsewhere. Why should COTH, who you sued and lost to, have any interest in you? If you want to address what is said about you, do it where people are having the discussions. Its not up to us to question you. You’ve answered all our “questions”. We have no questions. We can see for our selves that you don’t have the basic skills to ride above a training level class. That’s fine. Many people are only trianing level. Don’t pretend to be anything you aren’t. There’s no question about it.

[Manni01]

@Ambitious Kate

What? Coth interview you? Are you out of your…If you want to talk to the thousands of people you seem to want to address, do it. Coth isn’t going to INTERVIEW you. You’re just afraid to answer the concerns in a forum where people will respond to your answers. If you want to be interviewed, interview yourself again on your blog. Nobody can respond to you there, and anything you care to say will be online for everyone to read. Why should COTH, who you sued and lost to, have any interest in you?

Some newspapers used to give persons who are subjects of an article the chance to clarify the situation in a personal statement.

[KBC]

@Manni01

Some newspapers used to give persons who are subjects of an article the chance to clarify the situation in a personal statement.

Is not every post we make here a 'personal statement" Nick is a free as any of to state his opinions in a rational manner, he does not have to be interviewed, the stage is his here, but he does not want to use it.

[Joanne]

I think he has already made plenty of personal statements.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Manni01

Some newspapers used to give persons who are subjects of an article the chance to clarify the situation in a personal statement.

How many personal statements is this guy supposed to need? He’s made personal statements all over this board, and took COTH to court and sued them. He does nothing but make personal statements on Coth and off. Don’t be naiive.

Manni, once again, if you researched even a little bit, you would already know all about the personal statements this guy has made. As pointed out, every one of us makes a personal statement here. If he want to make a personal statement he can do so right here. He’s the one who chooses not to.

[KBC]

@BigMama1

If Nick does prefer to answer every single question individually, …

For some reason every time I that post I think it is Nick posting talking about himself in the 3rd person…It is definitely wine time.

[smoofox]

Nick - thanks to your own antics and claims on the interwebz, you were being discussed on other forums and blogs and Facebook pages before anyone at COTH gave you so much as a nod. You seeped over into COTH by osmosis - a bemused ripple effect - not design. You practically howled for people to pay attention to you. You have been the one responsible for all your “bad press”. You have been your own worst advertising. You have only yourself to blame for that - not COTH - no matter how many pouty blogs you write and fingers you point.

Stop blaming “hackers” and everyone else under the sun for your own antics.

Accept responsibility for your own actions.

And no, I am not a loser sitting here in my bathrobe as you would claim. As Redmond Dressage said, it is bloody smokey outside and I am indoors with the fans on for a while. The horses are out snoozing under the cedar trees - maybe using them as a type of filter.

You could just ride and enjoy your horse… and show a bit and seek to improve your skills… there is nothing wrong with that! As opposed to claiming to be an upper Grand Prix trainer/rider with Airs Above the Ground expertise and the guy to send all your chronic bolters/buckers/bad actors to… and possibly getting hurt.

COTH did not write an article about you - thus they do not need to interview you. You can address a couple of hundred people right here in this thread… and yet you want to hide behind your email address… and only “chat” one on one. How does that help? Or are you just fishing for email addresses…

[Windermere]

Alright, well, since Nick won’t play in the COTH sandbox, I’ll offer my own overview of why Carpathia is not demonstrating a readiness for 3rd level. Obviously there is a lot more I could get into, but just going for the broad strokes here.

This is what I would consider a good moment from the show (since Nick feels that there are good pictures):
https://pawsandrewind.smugmug.com/Eq…thia/i-dTfVmVQ
This shows a horse who is lifting her back and stepping under herself nicely. I see a horse who is still lacking topline and needs to strengthen her trapezius muscle so that she can lift and support herself more. The next pictures in the sequence better illustrate how she is not in self-carriage and lifting here - you can see a dip in the muscle in front of the withers.

Compare to this horse, which came up when I searched on Google for 3rd level horses (don’t know the horse at all - just looked for one at a similar point in the stride): http://imgur.com/a/ua3NB

You can see a horse who is lifting his shoulders and showing uphill balance, as well as a correctly muscled neck. He appears to be reaching to the contact, and is forward-thinking, in comparison to Carpathia, who does not demonstrate the same forward energy.

Granted, this is a horse who oozes talent and has very large, extravagant gaits. But even the best trot photo I could find of Carpathia shows a horse who is not active enough in her hind end, reaching enough under herself, or lifting and demonstrating uphill balance.

https://pawsandrewind.smugmug.com/Eq…thia/i-ZNPzk5R

http://imgur.com/a/1VNFo

And here is the purpose of third level, as taken from USDF 3-1:
To confirm that the horse demonstrates correct basics, and having begun to develop an uphill balance at Second Level, now demonstrates increased engagement, especially in the extended gaits. Transitions between collected, medium, and extended gaits should be well defined and performed with engagement. The horse should be reliably on the bit and show a greater degree of straigtness, bending, suppleness, throughness, balance and self carriage than at Second Level.

One of these horses is demonstrating self carriage, engagement, balance, and throughness. The other is not.

[BigDarnHorse]

On his blog, from today:

"KNOW THE FACTS! BOYCOTT COTH!

People really need to understand how the hate campaign works. I’ve spoken out against the biased against me, and so the haters heads are exploding. In my post I don’t just talk about the bias against me but I talk about show ring politics in general. So interesting that they want to take what they want out of my article isn’t it? However for those who are truly interested to know the facts about me and my training abilities, here is an accurate representation. Feel free to contact me. I would love to work with anyone because I can easily back up any claim I make, and debunk any rumor!"

also from today:

"COTH AT IT AGAIN!!

I recently posted about the politics that exist in the show ring. Yet again the truth hurts and makes people’s heads explode, specifically those who stalk and our part of a hate campaign. So if you are part of the bottom dwellers who seek their information based off of The Chronicle of the Horse, you really need to read this and fully understand what you are subscribing to when you log on. "

Nick, can you explain why you recently deleted a discussion on your FB page, in which you first conversed with, then banned out of anger, and then you posted photos from the banned poster and made fun of her riding? I kept the screen shots. Surely you can understand that this is a pattern of behavior for you and that most of us don’t consider such behavior from you a way to calmly and courteously discuss things (as you are asking us to do now).

[Smthn_Like_Olivia]

Writing a blog in 3rd person is so bizarre…