I don’t think it’s Nick. Also thought he was banned? I’m really not sure of either, but no way in hell am I talking to him.
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That made me chuckle :)…I had the exact opposite happen. Needed a more dressage specific instructor in a barn full of H/J trainers (all very good H/J trainers), don’t get me wrong, just not as good with dressage basics as a sole concentration. The barn manager made some subtle hints that while short term work with this one trainer was OK, I might want to keep looking. The instructor did help but both the horse and I “outgrew” her, so to speak.
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There is nothing associated with the account information for NickPeronace2 to suggest he is anyone other than who he says he is, so please move away from that line of discussion.
Let’s all please continue to work toward having a productive discussion.
Thanks,
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no, his old screen name is not banned
https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/member/193235-nick-peronace
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ok, well this is a strange thread, I’m out
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I have had some not very good instructors - most who just hadn’t had good instruction themselves and didn’t have a high level of knowledge / experience to share.
However it is worth noting that I have also had a couple of instructors whose ability to teach far exceeded their ability to ride. They were not naturally gifted riders and really didn’t ride particularly well, but had a well developed eye and a great understanding of the mechanics, theories and concepts behind correct riding. They could really see and explain clearly what students needed to do with their horses and how to do it.
Their students’ scores, placings and progress far exceeded their own.
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I’m just going to leave this right here…
[h=5]What is a narcissistic sociopath?[/h]
- People with narcissism are characterized by their excessive and persistent need for others' admiration and positive reinforcement. They generally have grandiose opinions of themselves and believe they are superior to other people. Narcissists are also frequently convinced that they are above the normal responsibilities and obligations of everyday life, so they usually have significant difficulties maintaining employment or relationships as a result.
- The narcissistic sociopath has this type of personality along with a noticeable lack of regard for the rights of others and a tendency to regularly violate those rights.
(2) They are egotistical to the point of narcissism. They really believe they are set apart from the rest of humanity by some special grace.
(3) They scapegoat; they are incapable of either having the insight or willingness to accept responsibility for anything they do. Whatever the problem, it is always someone else’s fault.
(4) They are remorselessly vindictive when thwarted or exposed.
(5) Genuine religious, moral, or other values play no part in their lives. They have no empathy for others and are capable of violence. Under older psychological terminology, they fall into the category of psychopath or sociopath, but unlike the typical psychopath, their behavior is masked by a superficial social facade.
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Nick: We all have choices in life. The choice of with whom to ride, email, and even how we respond to other humans in general discussions or heated debates. Those choices define who we are and, probably more importantly, how we project ourselves to others. Time and time again, you have made countless choices to respond to people using vulgar, abusive, condescending, and vile diatribes. You choose to act this way, and it tells a lot about your character.
Moreover, if that is how you choose to respond to people who you so repeatedly call “haters”, “losers”, and my personal favorite, “armchair dressage masters hiding in their mothers basements”, what on earth makes you think we’d trust you with our horse(s)? If you treat people this way when they disagree with you, how are you going to treat a horse who disagrees with your methodology? It’s quite a simple question, and one worthy of a public answer.
Furthermore, quit feigning victimhood. You are no victim. You have abundantly reaped what you’ve sown. You can dish it, but you most certainly not take it. You continue to beat a dead horse (an analogy, not an accusation) by deflection and projection.
Lastly, for the love of all that is good in this world, actually take people’s advice and seek out a trainer. Embrace being humble for once and train with others. No one, and mean no one, is ever above getting help and guidance from other instructors; not in every day life and, most certainly, not in the horse world. You have created this firestorm regarding your training, and no one else. Own it. Fix it. Move on. Grow.
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Thank you. I was hoping this would appear sometime soon.
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Thank you, Big Mama - that s a very important consideration.
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My best instructors also routinely take lessons and encourage me to audit and participate in clinics. We did have one snafu w/ current instructor getting a little tweaked about some of my ‘other’ lesson choices, but he’s my horse so that’s that.
I also wouldn’t take lessons with anyone who trashes judges and/or eschews competition. It’s one thing to be too busy/broke to go to a million recognized shows a year, it’s another to say all modern judging is crap. that’s ridic.
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I think we uncovered enough “truth” for Nick to have nothing left to defend or say. Shame really. I wanted to know why his horse is for sale.
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He’s made it pretty clear he isn’t actually here to answer questions or have a conversation. Other than to claim that we’re all lying and making things up (despite the screenshots added to this very thread). 
:lol:
If you want to know, you can always email him and then post his response? I’m sure you’re not the only one who is curious.
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It looks like he’s deleted his most recent blog post about the COTH “haters”??? Someone here screenshotted it but I don’t see it on his blog today.
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Which is why my number 1 question about an instructor is “How are their students doing? Do they progress at a reasonable pace with decent scores most of the time?” If the students are all stuck at 1st level for years on end, then that’s not the instructor for me.
We have so many lovely riders in this region and a lot of them can’t teach their way out of a bucket. Sure, they can put the moves on a horse but getting a middle aged adult amateur down center line just isn’t their strong suit. I look for someone with a track record getting people like me on horses like mine up the levels.
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We removed an inappropriate post and responses to it, per the previous reminder.
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haha i think i will pass on giving him my contact info.
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I actually tend to find the trainer who is naturally skilled is less helpful for me because I’m decidedly not. On the original topic, I think Nick has more natural talent than I do, and I’d love to see his energy go into learning to ride instead of bloviating.
My trainer has a ton of natural talent but an amazing awareness so he can feel what he does and explain it. He has a fairly mechanical mind and can translate between mechanics and feel. As an engineer, he often defines goals in phrasing and diagrams in the arena dirt which make sense to me, then tries to explain feelings so I can reach that goal. He’s very creative in coming up with ways to describe things, and keeps trying new ways, exercises to help me find my position, etc. That unending patience and desire to find the key to make something work and constant desire to learn more really helps. He loves when we ride in clinics and watches as much as he can so he can learn from what we are taught and use what works well in the future as well.
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That’s a great point. Some really natural riders aren’t great at explanning what to do because they don’t really know what to do, they just feel it.
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I have as well. The key is that vital understanding of what the goals of dressage are and how to interpret and teach each horse and rider’s ability to allow their development in a progressive manner.
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