Favorite Classical Trainer Nick Peronace VS USDF Judging Standards

[csaper58]

@Nestor

Wait what? :lol: This thread starts with a link to HIS BLOG.

Every thread discussing his antics has included video, photos, and screenshots. Including video of him talking to the camera about COTH directly. Go back through the history. There are screenshots of his abusive comments on FB, his posts degrading riders, his attacks on Robert Dover and Charlotte Dujardin, and more.

There is no rumor here. He is VERY open about this.

Please provide links.

Did anyone save the material on the blog to this cloth thread?

Is what is being discussed on the blog saved here?

Where can these videos be viewed on what post here?

[SendenHorse]

@csaper58

Prove you talked to him.

There are things you can say around the kitchen table and things you can put in writing on a public forum.

You need to be more aware of the difference.

Am I am trial here, Casper?

I got a really really bad feeling from him, like make the hair on the back of your neck stand up creepy.

I’m not engaging is this sort of talk, it’s a waste of time that is not the goal of this thread. There are plenty of screen shots on COTH about him and info on other threads for you to see.

[csaper58]

@Nestor

Wait what? :lol: This thread starts with a link to HIS BLOG.

Every thread discussing his antics has included video, photos, and screenshots. Including video of him talking to the camera about COTH directly. Go back through the history. There are screenshots of his abusive comments on FB, his posts degrading riders, his attacks on Robert Dover and Charlotte Dujardin, and more…

Not finding any of the above. What year did the above transgressions take place?

[Nestor]

@csaper58

Not finding any of the above. What year did the above transgressions take place?

Start here: https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/dressage/258262-nick-peronace-dressage

[NSC_Los_Angeles]

Csaper58 - since you are feigning a lack of comprehension, I’ll try to state my point more plainly: Your behavior indicates that you have an agenda to defend NP, under the guise of “don’t be mean on the internet you guys.” Therefore, your writing on the subject is disingenuous.

[csaper58]

@SendenHorse

Am I am trial here, Casper?

I got a really really bad feeling from him, like make the hair on the back of your neck stand up creepy.

I’m not engaging is this sort of talk, it’s a waste of time that is not the goal of this thread. There are plenty of screen shots on COTH about him and info on other threads for you to see.

Judge not lest ye be judged… you are making personal accusations about him.

‘Consider the source’ is always good policy.

[csaper58]

@Nestor

Start here: https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/dressage/258262-nick-peronace-dressage

Tried a few of the links on that thread they don’t go anywhere.

[SendenHorse]

@csaper58

Judge not lest ye be judged… you are making personal accusations about him.

‘Consider the source’ is always good policy.

Of course I am judging him, and I don’t feel bad about it.

It’s pretty clear you have no idea of what is going on with Nick.

[csaper58]

@NSC Los Angeles

Csaper58 - since you are feigning a lack of comprehension, I’ll try to state my point more plainly: Your behavior indicates that you have an agenda to defend NP, under the guise of “don’t be mean on the internet you guys.” Therefore, your writing on the subject is disingenuous.

I am not defending NP, or being anything other than transparent, and consistent.

Be however you want to be on the internet.

Here at COTH there are rules everyone who joins agrees to abide by. Honor the agreement you made.

[csaper58]

@SendenHorse

Of course I am judging him, and I don’t feel bad about it.

It’s pretty clear you have no idea of what is going on with Nick.

It is pretty clear you want everyone to believe you do.

[SendenHorse]

@csaper58

I am not defending NP, or being anything other than transparent, and consistent.

Be however you want to be on the internet.

Here at COTH there are rules everyone who joins agrees to abide by. Honor the agreement you made.

No one has been hiding anything from you, I told you everything I know.

Now you need to do your homework and inform yourself- its all here in this forum.

[SendenHorse]

[edit]

This isn’t about me- it’s about how he is now attacking Ulf.

It makes me a bit angry he is attacking a good trainer and judge. Someone who has taught me a lot, and who I respect.

[csaper58]

@csaper58

[B]It is sad and sick the way some posters here have made NP their personal chew toy, and it reflects badly on COTH as a whole

Remaining silent in the presence of abuse (even if the abused is one who is distasteful) is an abrogation of a society’s duty to up hold the rights of all. [/B]

[csaper58]

@SendenHorse

No one has been hiding anything from you, I told you everything I know.

Now you need to do your homework and inform yourself- its all here in this forum.

What are you rambling on about? This makes no sense.

[SendenHorse]

@csaper58

What are you rambling on about? This makes no sense.

I was answering you question

[PeteyPie]

@csaper58

Remaining silent in the presence of abuse (even if the abused is one who is distasteful) is an abrogation of a society’s duty to up hold the rights of all.

Wait. What? Are you saying that it is wrong to remain silent in the presence of this trainer’s abuse of the dressage test judges? Isn’t that what this whole thread is about? (I don’t think those judges are distasteful at all; I’ve heard nice things about them.)

[smoofox]

csaper - many of your accusations in this thread are so Out There… you really need to go back and start from the beginning before you continue to sneer with contempt and hold yourself up as some kind of hero for doing so. NP’s antics and comments have been documented, screen-saved etc. Not third hand stuff - his own words and videos that he often quickly deletes. You could find all this out with some simple research, but apparently would rather avoid the facts and condemn those who have commented on them and have concerns.

@csaper58

If people wish to capture screen shots of actual quotes and discuss them that would be fair.

This has been done multiple times - all over Facebook and other forums as well. Google. Threads here at COTH (and elsewhere) have started as a result. This particular thread started based on NP’s own words from his public blog - nothing second or third hand about that.

You not being aware of things does not mean they are lies (as NP would claim) or made up (as NP would claim)… you are so busy pointing fingers at others that you can excuse your insults and behavior that - if say, I had posted your exact words, you would be freaking out about and no doubt reporting me.

No one is telling you or Crockpot or anyone else to shut up - but you are most certainly telling others to do exactly that. State your concerns and opinions without insults. Share your concerns without pretentious jeering, sneering and waving around forum rules as some kind of a banner even as you ignore them…

@PeteyPie

Wait. What? Are you saying that it is wrong to remain silent in the presence of this trainer’s abuse of the dressage test judges? Isn’t that what this whole thread is about? (I don’t think those judges are distasteful at all; I’ve heard nice things about them.)

Don’t be ridiculous, PeteyPie… anything NP does is fine and we must not ever disagree with him… or discuss any wacky accusations he has made…

[SendenHorse]

Did you read the OP, really read and digest it? Do you know who Ulf Wadeborn is?

I have met and worked with Ulf in person so it disgusts me that Nick is going after Ulf and USDF.

[SendenHorse]

have you ever met Ulf ,Casper? have you been to any of his shows and clinics? Do you know him?

Well, I do.

It disgusts me what Nick is doing. Unacceptable.

[BigMama1]

Sorry Csaper, you’ll have to do your own research as I have already actually read all the posts and followed the links mentioned in them. Nick may have removed some of them but that doesn’t make them any less real. None of us have any reason to “prove” anything to you. Begin with his blog post linked in the very first post on this thread and carry on from there. Or don’t. But don’t make up nonsense about all the comments here being speculation and third-hand, when that is patently untrue.