<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>goldy
Working Hunter
Posted Sep. 11, 2005 11:11 AM
April 10, 2005 Haunted by the night Brach died, Chicago Tribune. Plemmons says “his victims were typicically wealthy people who could afford to lose the money”. Tribune " The victims of his Sacramental swindles which led to federal charges against him in 1991 see it differently, however".Plemmons stole $58,000 from in a horse deal. Tom and Debbie Long " We borrowed money to make this happen," Tom Long said. Long said it took his family a long time to pay off their debts and get back on their feet after Plemmons disappeared with their money. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by ohnowwhat:
Uh, hello …
Have you checked CNN or FOX lately?
There are other things going on out there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Uh, hello yourself …
Have you bothered to say that on any of the other fluff threads still alive and well on this BB? The world doesn’t stop for anyone.
For crying out loud, at least this thread is important to Goldy! He does have reason to care about the subject. Sheesh!
SCFarm
I dun near graduated th e6th grad i guna be brain sugent. That me popouse
You know, it’s probably a good thing that I don’t drink alcohol. I’m having trouble enough trying to follow this. Too much contradiction (did I spell that correctly?) and I just keep wondering who pissed you off goldy that you open all of these threads this evening, never having posted under that name before and just keep going on & on when no one cares what you say and we’re just having fun playing verbal volleyball? Who are you trying to get back at?
Joe said in his interview with the ABC reporter that he 100% will stand by his word he said about Bailey in that trial and a few lines later said words similar to I think you will see if you look at what I had said I think I will hold to what I have said. If you look at this article any expert or intelligent person will see he has contidicted himself and shows uncertanty that he has not now changed his story. Also if you can get actual video clip you will see his head movement on one question is totally incongcruent with what he is saying!Any expert with word and body laguage will smell a con man!
Can this thread die please lol! I keep seeing “Helen” pop up and it’s quite distracting. Don’t pay any attention to me, I am sure this thread is quite intriguing.
You say goldylox, “I can answer a lot of the question you ask but now is not the time.” Why did you start this thread then? To find out if there’s interest? To see what might or might not sell?
If you want to find out who’s on the board for the various trusts, do a google seach. Quite interesting.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Bea
Premium Member (4/05)
Posted Sep. 15, 2005 07:40 PM
One. Last of the Mohicans is the only movie I’ve ever watched. And then stayed in my seat in the theater and immediately watched all over again. I might have to go rent it tonight.
Two. Goldy, since it seems the BB is trying to have a moment of honesty with you, I’ll throw in my .02
You mentioned early on you were drinking from the stress of the situation. Understandable, but I have to tell you that alcohol can lead to seemingly obsessive behavior. I’ve been thinking that you’re sitting at your computer, drinking, and brooding on the situation. If so, not a healthy combination. Because rather than helping relieve stress, the alcohol is fueling the preoccupation </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have not had a drink in a couple of days. By the way I love to drink sometimes with friends. I am not an alcohlic. I am in the process of making my self stronger than ever so I can deal with some evil things that have come my way. I would love to end this thread so I can begin work on other things in my life. I am sure some of you are busy like me and probably have some more important things to take care of. So I do not care if some of you like me or whatever you wish to think of me. I have only told you my story! Best wishes to all of you!
Man…I need to open a new bottle of red and just watch this guy…It’s freakin’ 10:54 on a Tuesday night…how much more entertainment can I be blessed with? 
I’m pretty sure we can all learn quite a bit…I’ve always wanted to “learn something out” (where, pray tell me, is the freakin’ fruitbat!!!) 
Now all of a sudden many of these articles saying my father killed Helen Brach are hard to find on the computer! HUUUUUUUMMMMMMM!!!
Goldylox, you are talking about one of the most corrupt areas of the country. Sorry, but from the days of bootlegging to not too long ago, it was reknowned. So now what?
And you expect us to believe you with all the inuendos and circumventing of the facts?? That your life is threatened, you are a BNT and that if you die, (life being threatened, feds watching your every move, media lieing continually) people will be putting things out there. This is sounding waaay too much like a movie. Sorry, I believe in the truth, and like Delidog was around back when Benny O’Meara was it. Along with the rest of the boys.
You may be telling the truth, or you may be one hell of a con artist. Nothing so far weighs to either side.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Oh sorry–they did prove the drug charges.I’ll be glad to post the court recourts for you.–Oh and Put the article on this site–where JP said he shot her in the head and that she was alive. Not something that was written on the BB but on the TV or newspaper. Frank Jayne Jr. spent jail time for selling drugs from his stable–easy to find the records.Lady you are way in over your head–The only thing you know is what you have read on this gossip board-- Did you know any of the people involved. Frank Jayne Jr.-Curtis Hansen-Joe Plemmons-Matlick-Si Jayne-Kenny Hansen etc, the answer is ( NO ) So you try to influence people of your great knowledge on this board and all the while you have no ideal in the world what happened. You and Steve (goldy) are fishing for pie in the sky–I understand him–he most likely beleives in is dad–right or wrong-you my lady or a lost soal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sorry Pal Jaynes record has already been posted. His conviction on drugs! You will have to pay more attention!!! I will add that my Father has never used, sold an illegal substance!!! He has no arrests or criminal record. I f you do not read carefully everything that has been posted, you will not see ( You probably do not care) the brilliant minds that have been uncovering some inportant facts. I smell a TROLL! The enemy ! I better run for shelter! Some of these people on this thread are alot more brilliant than YOU OR I !!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by goldy:
Remember this is America the land of the FREE.Would you be one of people who does not like freedom of speech and wants to be above the law?
If you don’t agree with the powers that be, you must not be patriotic and you hate America, and if you aren’t with us, you’re against us (isn’t that how it goes these days ). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
seriously, i don’t think chicago will ever be “cleaned up” per say. look whats going on with Mayor Daley right now. whatever though. Chicago has run this way since forever. I don’t think the city can actually function without coruption (sp?). that’s just my opinion though.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Are you using a pill gun or just using the squash kitty between the knees, pry mouth, and jam finger with pill down throat method? Oh… and a little funny to go with the whole kitty & pills story. My friend/co-worker at the clinic had a kitten poop in her scrub pocket this afternoon. Seems that the kitten squirmed itself loose while having the pill gun jammed into its mouth, ran around the clinic, was finally scooped back up, and received its drontal tab (while one tech pinned it down and the other shot the tablet in with the pill gun)… at sometime during this madness, he pooped in my friend’s pocket! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am using the squash kitty between me & the kitchen counter & a pill gun. I wasn’t having to do that before & was just doing the finger trick but he’s so fed up with it that if I wanted to keep my fingers, I’d better use the pill gun. 
Also, I am keeping his nails short. 
It has been 7 weeks this round I think. 1 more week & we’ll take him off & see how he does. I’m not hopeful but he’s doing great now. 
The kitty poop in the pocket is too funny!!
Lisa, I’ll PT you back in the AM. I am exhausted & need to go to bed. 
I have only one reason starting this thread when I did. A gut feeling I had over a month ago kept comming up. Goldy you must get the Truth out fast! These people are probably in the process of making their WEB OF LIES biger & bigger. If something does not happen soon with all you know about these lies the web will get so large and confusing. It might become to difficult or complicated for even the brightest minds to want to tackle. THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!
Do you know that this year any time the feds have asked for permission for a wire tap they have gotten it. When they say it involves terrorism they do not have to ask for permission!
Noone knows so much that they can’t stand to learn aliittle!
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by obvious alter:
Anyone notice how much is NOT being heard from the Chicago crowd? Especially those old enough to have lived/ridden during all of those wonderful times? Unfortunately, I am in that category.
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Yeah, I did notice that. I haven’t gone back and read the old CoTH threads, but I would assume there were a bunch of Chicago area people on them. But, I’m not sure what to make of that.
OTOH - I DID live through Watergate in DC - and it didn’t give me any better insights into who Deep Throat was - or, more interestingly - what his motivations were.
Aren’t cold cases often investigted by people who weren’t involved in the original cases? I would think fresh perspectives can be quite valuable. No, we aren’t going to solve anything here. This is simply an intellectual (or not ) exercise for all of us but Goldy. And maybe our ramblings will inavertantly bring up the right questions (amongst all the wrong ones).
Of course anyone who was there (or anyone at all) is welcome to play on this thread. But honestly, it’s been nice that no one has gotten personal or is defending/accusing anyone they know/knew.
I am a bit facinated by the whole Chicago mob thing. And from what I am reading (thru Google searches) the horse mob was more like a footnote in scheme of things - which explains why (in my mind) why all this was much less of a priority back then. Well, that and the cross over to the “real” mob scene players. Eye opening to say the least.
Oh, and sian - we are arguing here, not fighting. This thread has been most civil. No one is getting mean or personal. Scepticism is welcome, even helpful.
SCFarm
But if you all notice all Goldy is doing is babbling. He really hasn’t said anything interesting. He is just a big bluff.
If you do know speak up or SHUT UP!
I haven’t read much of this thread and keep wondering why it still goes on. Can someone summarize? Is it a joke or is it real?
