Hitch, all I will say is that… you are my new hero. 
http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/hanov.html
http://www.horses-and-horse-information.com/articles/hanoverian-horse.shtml
http://www.hanoverian.org click on breed profile.
Another site that supports me… 4 for Nattie, 0 for CW
Still don’t believe me? Want me to find this info for every German Breed? I don’t mind… I still have my bibliography from my 10 page paper.
~~Nattie~~
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Celtic- I didn’t say he IS a draft, I’m saying from a LONG LONG time ago, they were GERMAN drafts. For mares to get a premium status, they had to pull a certain weight for a certain distance, there was no riding or jumping involved.
Maybe YOU should talk to the people over on Sport Horse Breeding.
~~Nattie~~
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Oh yes they did Celtic!! Haven’t you ever seen a picture of Werther?? Or any of the “old style” foundation Warmblood stallions in Germany?! They were origonally bred to war horses and plow horses. I did a hole research project on them last year…
I didn’t say that <B>I</B> thought it was a warmblood, I’m saying that some dumb lady did.
~~Nattie~~
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[This message was edited by Nattie on Nov. 08, 2003 at 09:02 PM.]
I hate to add another aspect to this …debate… but I’m sick today and feeling grouchy 
so hear goes. 
Do we have any indication that the breeds we (Americans)call drafts looked the same 200 years ago? Perhaps the Percheron of 150 years ago looked more like the Irish Draught of today? We in the US have a tendency to make “show ponies” of all kinds of beasts. If you need proof look at show Poodles and show hunters (sorry, had to say it) and Shetland Ponies. There is the tendency to fixate on a feature and overdo it. Thus the enormous neck, thick leg feathers and overall massive size we know may be an American creation.
If anyone knows a bit about the history of draft breeding in the US feel free to educate me. This is just a theory. What do I know know about any thing but thoroughbreds??? Not much. 
Besides, as I said, I’m cranky today. 
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Well, I’m not actually a self-described expert on these things, so you may want to confirm with someone who is. 
But I don’t blame Didi for not wanting to be a warmblood. Most of the ones I have dealt with are primadonnas. 
Sporthorse South, I think you’ve summed it up very well (and much more concisely than my attempt 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OneonOne:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 5:
Devildog, The Rugged Lark quarter horses are supposed to be pretty tall.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
She wasn’t referring to how tall they actually are, she was referring to the (incorrect) measurements given. There’s no such thing as 14.5 hands.
Formerly mmclough<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, that is what I meant! I have ridden a very tall QH before, and had a friend who had a 17hh QH!
What are you going to do, bleed on me???
I already sent an email to the jeopardy producers…I yelled at the tv for a good 6 min.
<a href="http://www.scatteredoaksfarm.com">www.scatteredoaksfarm.com</a><BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Timothy Hay:
Delighted - TB’s can be registered as Danish Warmbloods if either the dam or the sire was a DWB as well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Bwahahahaha!
Timmy, you always crack me up!
SillyHorse
~ I’m probably on John Ashcroft’s enemies list. At any rate, he’s on mine. ~
Hmmm according to that site the standardbred is a warmblood-who knew? Oh and I want one that is 15.9 hh too. 
Staying away from the hot/warm/lukewarm debate-momma didn’t raise no fool! 
I’m always waiting for horse categories on Jeopardy, and am always disappointed. I knew someone was going to post about the Hotblood/Coldblood thing!
But the palpation and the AI keep the veterinarians in business, and we need that!
I’m an alter, and I hate stupid people.
[This message was edited by Erin on Nov. 11, 2003 at 09:18 PM.]
“Please take your trivial mindset elsewhere…”
Just because I am pointing out the flaw in your thinking does not make my post “trivial”.
Easyjumper1, thank you for your post!!! Excellent information! 
I’m an alter, and I hate stupid people.
Medievalist, I believe Irish Draughts are “working horses”, not actually drafts. And I don’t think Irish sporthorses (RIDxIrish TB) are not considered warmbloods by the Europeans.
[This message was edited by Master Tally on Nov. 08, 2003 at 09:55 PM.]
bigbay, if you want an interesting bunch of answers, post your question over in Sport Horse Breeding! Go look at the thread about “New Registry?” - very entertaining!
“I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning to sail my ship.”
-Louisa May Alcott
I’m just going to follow along and read this one. I’ve seen way too many heated debates on this. Just recently about PMU foals and mares.
Okay…never mind…I’ll throw out one flag:
Hot + cold = warm works with water…not blood. My only ‘issue’ with this (if it can even be called that) is when sellers add the “warmblood” or Warmblood" tag onto a horse to ask an increased price over what it’s actually worth.
D*mn Jeopardy and their interferring ways!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RodeoHunter:
Silly Jo! It’s in the first post. “What you get when you cross a hot blood with a cold blood.” The correct question (which no one got) was, “What is a warmblood?”
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Oops! Sorry! Somehow I started reading this topic on page 2. Duh.
[I] TODAY’S BLESSING: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the crotch of the person who screws up your day and may their arms be too short to scratch. AMEN
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CLONING, silly! That’s the answer. We just clone the same zorse over and over and over. No more stud fees, no more nightmare heat cycles, no more palpations (bet the mare’s will love that), no more AI collections (“Where’s my helmet?”)…
Life will be good!
“I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning to sail my ship.”
-Louisa May Alcott
CG,
I would encourage you to form your own registry; including studbook, mare book, and performance book (as I think the KWPN does this well just copy theirs).
Now what can you call this registry ?
ZORSE does sound forceful, powerful and able to leap tall buildings whilst piaffing in a single - albeit well-basculed - bound!
Yours in sport,
Lynn
Founder of the Pinto Warmblood Clique
