is this really linda parelli?

[Beverley]

As noted in my post earlier today, voila a one eyed OTTB who seems to have done okay without the benefit of being jerked around, or any special games or carrot sticks.

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd89/BevHeff/Hunting%20whip%20views/?action=view&current=bev6.jpg

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd89/BevHeff/Hunting%20whip%20views/?action=view&current=bev15.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/WvzQwJrkztx2oasd7X5raYRK8LkOFQjHpEu5uIS4pVs_/Bev2.jpg

Hardly a push button ride, perfectly capable of misbehaving (and swiftly corrected for same). Come to think of it, would have been way fun to watch Ms. P. pick a fight with him. I can tell you who’d have won.

[Graureiter]

All I can see is a very frustrated “trainer”, a confused horse and an oblivious owner. That “trainer” would definitively not get any business from me. And it does not make me want to try her “special method”

[caffeinated]

@gloriginger;4725445

what arabian stallion, obviously I have been living under a rock…

http://www.fuglyblog.com/2010/pretty-dangerous/

[Murphy_s_Mom]

If this is the type of “horsemanship” (the title of the video got it right “horse-man-shit”) that most COTHers think of when NH is mentioned, no wonder it’s got such a bad reputation on this board. That was a seriously pathetic excuse for “training”. That poor horse had no clue what she wanted and he never did keep his attention on her even at the end when she was making him stand still (was she eating an apple while waiting for him to make a mistake?). Wow, just wow. Am really glad I had better teachers.

[gloriginger]

thanks Caffeinated…how aweful. I hope the trainer is okay, and that no children were watching the class. having been to Scottsdale, it’s pretty wide open, lots of spectators lurking around.

[sketcher]

[QUOTE=caffeinated;4726601]
http://www.fuglyblog.com/2010/pretty-dangerous/[/QUOTE]

That arabian stallion sounds like he had the ‘David Boggs’ treatment. I love when they blame it on the testicles.

[Alagirl]

@sketcher;4726770

That arabian stallion sounds like he had the ‘David Boggs’ treatment. I love when they blame it on the testicles.

:eek::eek: (had to google it, but wow, just WOW!!):eek::eek:

[sketcher]

[QUOTE=Alagirl;4726805]
:eek::eek: (had to google it, but wow, just WOW!!):eek::eek:[/QUOTE]

You probably would have had to be involved in the Arabian industry in the 80’s to really grasp what he is capable of. The sad thing is that is is still, apparently, a very succesful and politically connected handler who continues to work his ‘magic’. Sickening.

[Alagirl]

the little peep into his world was quiet enough, but you really had to click on the ‘suspension’ option in the google search field…he puts up a good front…

[LuvMyTB]

[QUOTE=Woodland;4724883]
Seriously? Did you & I watch the same video? I saw a horse paying attention and trying awful hard and yet nothing not - one - thing he did was right with that blonde woman. She laid into him over and over and over again. “Run out of adrenaline”? No I think he just gave up even trying to be right for her. And when he quit trying she gave up as well.

Twice I have had people come to my barn to work their PP voodoo on my poor unsuspecting horses. My own horse was called what you called this horse. Shane is no ones fool. He is bomb proof(literally) and loving. He moves his feet in precision for showmanship at a WORLD level of competition. And that drove the Level 4 woman bonkers. I finally had to escort her away from my horse. Her arm waving rope twirling hand popping actions were starting to scare him - and NOTHING scares that horse. BUT he has never been ABUSED before! He still is not over it!

Then a level 2 what ever came out and wanted to meet the infamous Susie. Susie just stood there and never moved an muscle while this crazy woman tried to work her(work her over) Susie finally wore her out and the lady left in a huff unable to “make her point”.

There is NO defense for the behavior that person tormented that horse with what so ever! :no: Pathetic intimidation! :no:[/QUOTE]

Woodland–if you would read for COMPREHENSION, you would know that I was in NO way defending LP–just explaining the theory that I think was behind what she was doing. I never said I thought it was right.

You would have also seen that I no longer practice PNH due in large part to the uneducated mishandling, such as what was shown in this video.

You know, Woodland–you have such hostility and vitriol when posting on any Parelli-related thread that it totally undermines your credibility. We have heard 10000 times about your perfect horses and how you and your animals have made fools out of everyone. Try coming up with some new examples and you might have an easier time making your point on these threads.

[jadewolf]

[QUOTE=caffeinated;4726601]
http://www.fuglyblog.com/2010/pretty-dangerous/[/QUOTE]

Holy smokes, I totally missed hearing about that.

I find it interesting, though, that the whole country was in an uproar over Tillikum, a six-ton, 23’ long aquatic apex predator, killed his trainer at Sea World in a somewhat hazy situation… but not a peep about a stallion nearly trampling to death his handler in yet another somewhat ambiguous situation. Guess it’s probably for the best that they did turn a blind eye, though, because I doubt the horse industry needs all those animal rights nuts shrieking about freeing all the horses, heh.

Just strikes me as an interesting parallel, I suppose.

[ZiggyStardust]

[QUOTE=caffeinated;4726601]
http://www.fuglyblog.com/2010/pretty-dangerous/[/QUOTE]

Wow, that Arabian breeder’s website is, uh, somethin’. Flashback to timeshare sales in Mexico.

[Love_My_TB_Consent]

@dixiedolphin;4726952

Holy smokes, I totally missed hearing about that.

I find it interesting, though, that the whole country was in an uproar over Tillikum, a six-ton, 23’ long aquatic apex predator, killed his trainer at Sea World in a somewhat hazy situation… but not a peep about a stallion nearly trampling to death his handler in yet another somewhat ambiguous situation. Guess it’s probably for the best that they did turn a blind eye, though, because I doubt the horse industry needs all those animal rights nuts shrieking about freeing all the horses, heh.

Just strikes me as an interesting parallel, I suppose.

Not quite a parallel seeing as the horse’s trainer did not die, and apparently is doing ok… all things considered. Also, people interact with horses, and they get hurt, kicked, bit, etc. It is a whole lot more uncommon for someone to be KILLED by a whale… versus possibly attacked by a horse (there is even debate upon whether the horse attacked, or just was a series of unfortunate events). I’m sure if the trainer died it would’ve been on the news (simply because it was at a public venue), but not as big of a news story as Sea World’s trainer being killed by an Orca in front of people.

I have seen a stallion attack it’s handlers, causing quite a few injuries to more then one person… at a show. I didn’t see any news trucks.

[Ghazzu]

David Boggs isn’t someone I’d ever trust with a horse of mine, but he was a sacrificial lamb.
The BNTs figured if they tossed his carcass to the Great Unwashed, the hue and cry about the hard stance would go away.

Plus, they’d eliminate some of the competition for a couple of years…

[MassageLady]

murphy’s Mom…the reason we all think about NH this way, is because apparently this is what they’re taught! That IS Linda Parelli doing this horrible thing to that poor horse. It looks to me like the horse is trying desperately to actually lunge around her, and she is ASKING him to! In my world, if a horse turns and faces you while lunging, it’s a sign of a challenge and disrespect-and is most likely what he was taught NOT to do! Now, she’s asking for him to do it-without TEACHING him first! Then he tries to walk WITH HER AND BESIDE HER and she smacks him in the face! OMG what is she thinking???:mad::mad: And they wonder why people that can see thru them don’t like them???

[Phaxxton]

There is nothing okay with that video.:no: What I see is a horse that is very confused (understandably) and terrified of its trainer. That horse learned nothing but to fear his handler. IF that horse really is so much better now as someone else said, it is despite this handling, not because of it.

And if anyone EVER hit one of my horses in the face, they would see the full effect of my wrath. Then again, I wouldn’t have let any trainer continue like that for more than 15 seconds before I’d end it.

The fact that the horse is blind in one eye makes me even :mad:er watching this. :no:

[Eye_in_the_Sky]

[QUOTE=Ghazzu;4727078]
David Boggs isn’t someone I’d ever trust with a horse of mine, but he was a sacrificial lamb.
The BNTs figured if they tossed his carcass to the Great Unwashed, the hue and cry about the hard stance would go away.

Plus, they’d eliminate some of the competition for a couple of years…[/QUOTE]

I’m glad this was said - I had thought this was perhaps the case, but coming from Ghazzu, I feel more sure of it now

[JollyBadger]

That woman has no business sweeping the front patio at my barn, let alone doing anything with a horse.

Pathetic.

[Long_Spot]

[QUOTE=JollyBadger;4728027]
That woman has no business sweeping the front patio at my barn, let alone doing anything with a horse.

Pathetic.[/QUOTE]

Wish there were a “bow” emoticon.

[Bluey]

Those defending the video in the OP asked for the previous scene and someone provided it.
This is what happened, according to those that have that video, right before what was posted here already.
The initial video posted happened right after this, as LP decided to teach some more, this time hands on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thzc8lPaHaw

I will say that those that find all this acceptable should back off, sit on the side lines and really think about this way of handling horses.
It seems to me that they are habituated to seeing and being told that is the best way to train and, not knowing any better, they try to do just that, the results clearly to be seen here.