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is this really linda parelli?

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#101

[QUOTE=AnotherRound;4723025]
If someone did that to my hourse, I’d step up, take the lead rope from them, and whap her in the face with it. Over and over, walking forward and chasing her down as she backed up. You’d have to call the cops to get me off her.

She’s a f***kn freak of nature. It would be karma if she was struck and killed by a horse.

II forwarded this to my trainer. Just so she has it for her data files. I wonder if anyone has sent this to WAZ yet?[/QUOTE]

that was my first thought too…if someone did this to my animal you would have to physically stop me from attacking them. O_o

i will send it to WAZ if no one else has. i don’t want to inundate him with a million of the same emails but i do think he should see it.

#102

[QUOTE=DieBlaueReiterin;4723367]
that was my first thought too…if someone did this to my animal you would have to physically stop me from attacking them. O_o

i will send it to WAZ if no one else has. i don’t want to inundate him with a million of the same emails but i do think he should see it.[/QUOTE]

WAZ sees that going on every day, he works with them, he sees the teaching videos and it is still going on.:frowning:
That horse handling has been going on for as long as I have been aware of the PP teachings…habituation at play?

I have commented on it, someone else right here said they had written them about it, but it is still going on.:no:

The emperor indeed doesn’t has clothes on.:wink:

I have worked in many different stables and watching many trainers and others work around horses.
It seems that those places that have people that are a little bit short in their handling of the horses is contagious, the ones around them also become a little bit short with their horses.
In the stables where horses are handled in a very quiet, professional manner by the ones in charge, so do the students and workers.

What is so sad of this whole PP system is that they had an extremely good idea, to standarize horse training in a world full of all kinds of haphazard horse handling methods, but they dropped the ball by becoming such a side show.

Now, that is fine for them, they made that sideshow work at many levels, but for standarizing and teaching basic horsemanship, as they intended initially, they dropped the ball so badly, what a shame.:frowning:

#103

This poor horse is so confused:
Oh, you want me to back up?? ok—jerk, jerk,–
Oh, you want me to move sideways?? Ok—jerk,jerk,jerk,–
Oh, you want me to walk forward?? Ok—jerk,jerk,jerk,----
Oh, you want me to stand still?? Ok—jerk,jerk,jerk
:confused::confused:I don’t understand–
I have tried everything I thought you want, what am I doing wrong??:cry::cry::cry: I want to be a good boy, really I do!!!:cry::cry::cry:

#104

The astonishing thing to me was that they put this on the video for the old new Level 1. They charged people money to see this! And Level 1 people – people who were new to all this – were supposed to learn what?

Haven’t seen the new new L1, but I would imagine this segment is not on it.

#105

If that bi**h handled my horse like that I’d rip her arm off and beat her to death with it.

The title of the video should be, “How to ruin a horse in 5 minutes or less”.

The more I learn about these idiots - the more I think they’re the worst thing to come down the pike in a long long time. Poor horses.

#106

[QUOTE=MunchkinsMom;4722654]
Yes, she has an accent, and that is what sold it to me - that it was her voice for sure.[/QUOTE]

Where is she supposed to be from? I have traveled quite a bit and have friends and business acquaintances from all over the World and her “accent” loses me completely. It’s kind of up state New Yorker Aussie California. :confused:

When I first heard Chris Cox(who I am certain is the real deal) I thought he was full of it with his Florida/Aussie/Desert southwest accent - then I found out that that is where he had lived and realized he could not help it. Like my Nigeria friend that lives in Scotland now - that is one hoot of an accent let me tell you!

This treatment is exactly why i kicked the PPite out of my barn when she wanted to buy my Shane. She was a flaming whack job! He is still a bit head shy from it - it is disgraceful! And another woman tried to “work” Susie using the same techniques. Of course Susie turned immediately into an Easter Island statue and worked the lady instead - which was hilarious! It had no ill effects on her at all.

What utter nonsense! A great way to ruin a good horse! I hope the owner kicked her a good one! :mad:

#107

Miss this thread somehow!! OMG!!! What the heck, Linda is a fruitbat like I suspected!! That poor horse was as confused as I was. Why not let the horse look and get over what he is looking at then snatch, jerk, and hit him. Now I will admit there have been times I’ve jerk my guys on the halter and lead for reasons and times I’ve smacked them with the lead rope, but its a swift correction not an on going stupidfest.

#108

What’s even more ironic is that is called the “Yo-Yo game”. Effing yo-yo is right. I left an otherwise nice barn a couple years ago when it became a koolaid drinking center of Parelli-ites.

Oh, and longeing? PP’s would never do that–they claim THAT is “horrible”. But the “circling game” is ok (only difference is the numb nuts stand in the middle and never move their feet, just twirl the rope over their heads as the horse circles). They’re full of shit.

#109

Horse-man-shit … how apt.

#110

Wow

Sainted horse. Wish he had stomped her. Wish I could stomp her. Seriously, if someone tried that $hit with my horse…it would be the last thing they ever did.

What a disgusting display of ignorance. As others have said, what is wrong with people that will actually pay money to have anything to do with these people? I am so baffled.

#111

I usually try to stay out of these threads because I did use some of the Natural horsemanship stuff on my horse. Granted, I got her when i was 13, so Monty Roberts at that time was my hero! hahaha But anyway, I grew up a bit and some of the techniques are very usable and do get results, however, I NEVER USED ANYTHING LIKE THIS! And would never dream of using them on a horse as calm as that! Do you know how many little kids are watching this crap and thinking “Oh I am going to do that!”
Just wow… How do people like this become professionals?!

#112

OMGiH. :dead:

I think I know what she was actually supposed to be trying to do, but I’ve seen beginners in their first horsemanship clinic with better timing and feel. That is really, truely, seriously scary.

#113

I wonder if this is how the horse lost his eye in the first place - a big old whack to the orbit with the flinging lead rope.

This even gives Fruitbats a bad name…

#114

[QUOTE=monstrpony;4723484]
OMGiH. :dead:

I think I know what she was actually supposed to be trying to do, but I’ve seen beginners in their first horsemanship clinic with better timing and feel. That is really, truely, seriously scary.[/QUOTE]

That’s what’s saddest about this, I think. I have seen many skilled horsemen (and women) who use traditional horsemanship techniques (Dorrance/Ray Hunt school, so to speak) (from which Parelli’s ideas are seem to be descended, in a weirdly modified form). This kind of mess gives people the idea that anyone with a rope halter is a nutjob, which is a shame.

#115

A good friend of mine with whom I ride from time to time had dabbled in the NH stuff a few years ago. She’s not an “active practitioner” anymore, but she still occasionally talks about the “games” and how great they worked with her horse.

One day while I was cooling out my horse after a ride, she started talking about the games stuff. “My horse backs up if I just wiggle a finger at him, he really learned to respect my space. It’s easy to do, here’s how you do it,” and she proceeded to take the lead rope out of my hand and start flinging it back and forth at my horse’s head. (Thankfully not to the aggressive/abusive degree as in this video, but still-- enough to send my normally-sloth-quiet, super-easy-to-handle 6 y.o. OTTB’s head shooting straight up in the air, scared and baffled as to whatever he had done to warrant such treatment.) Once I picked my jaw up off the ground, I retrieved my lead rope and rescued my poor horse; fortunately my friend hasn’t offered any more assistance since then, because I fear it would get ugly.

I’ve never seen any kind of NH “games play” before or since, until I clicked on the link for this video… it’s exactly what my friend was trying to do to MY horse, albeit ten times worse.

Seriously people, what the hell… If someone who knows NOTHING about horses can look at that clip and be horrified, isn’t that saying something???

#116

Apparently Mrs Pooperphony’s husband made quite the ass of himself at the Ray Hunt memorial thing last week (no, I am not into NH, a friend went).

#117

[QUOTE=PocketTBsMom;4723077]
Yes, that’s LP. Clip is from one of the circa 2007 “Level One” training DVDs – and yep, the PPs sell lead ropes with honking big clips to get that crunch on the jaw.[/QUOTE]

This is bad. I thought somebody had caught it on their cell phone camera and posted it. Most people in the public eye put on a very good face and have the rotten stuff behind closed doors.

If this is the public persona and what they tout as “good”, I shudder to think what goes on behind closed doors.

#118

I’m not sure why i’m bothering to post, but here you go…

I know the horse. I know the owner. They live about 30 minutes from me, and I have ridden that horse.

The horse came to the owner without an eye.

The horse was an extremely spooky OTTB with absolutely no respect for space - he certainly wasn’t mean, but he was scared and on high alert all the time and had no idea that there was even a person attached to the lead rope. The owner could barely ride the horse at a walk in a roundpen without the horse spooking badly and scaring the owner.

The owner was an intermediate rider at the time.

The owner is still a big Parelli fan, and still has the horse.

The horse is not ruined…in fact the horse can easily be ridden w/t/c on trail rides in a hackamore without any spooks, and has schooled up to 3rd level dressage with a bridle, and the owner is very happy to have a calm, relaxed, responsive horse that looks to him for leadership.

Flame away :wink:

#119

[QUOTE=pinkdiamondracing;4723393]
This poor horse is so confused:
Oh, you want me to back up?? ok—jerk, jerk,–
Oh, you want me to move sideways?? Ok—jerk,jerk,jerk,–
Oh, you want me to walk forward?? Ok—jerk,jerk,jerk,----
Oh, you want me to stand still?? Ok—jerk,jerk,jerk
:confused::confused:I don’t understand–
I have tried everything I thought you want, what am I doing wrong??I want to be a good boy, really I do!!![/QUOTE]

Yeah, that’s exactly how he read to me too. He may have been gawking a bit initially- and I’ll give him a pass for being in a large open space with many horses and people flapping away at those horses and for having one eye- but he was trying so hard to figure out what she wanted, including trying to stay out of her space while she yanked and whacked at him. Gross.

#120

Glad to hear the horse didn’t end up on the fast track to Canada!

But sheesh, that moment in this horse’s life - 5 minutes - certainly wasn’t what made him calm relaxed and responsive…

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