But manni - you have “started it” in a way - in numerous threads and conversations… many of your posts are what you have been saying is “bullying” - if someone else has posted it.
Maybe a bit of self-reflection is in order here.
And sammy - that is not an example of doxing. manni has had her own info in her signature line for a very long time. No one had to dig it up, search for it or post it. She posted the links herself on a public forum and they appear on every single post she makes. Not doxing. I have clicked on them to look at the lovely horses - I suppose that makes me a stalker, now? No - the links are provided as an invitation.
And I agree with you again :). In fact I was amused and also I don’t take any of this serious. But then why did this poster chose this phrase??? Did he want to amuse me???
BTW he could have just written shut up!!
And for the record I did not report it but still I wonder why he or she didn’t write:be quiet or:please don’t write anything…
Well the Merriam Webster ( I hope you accept this as a source). Defines „don’t you dare" as „ forcefully somebody telling not to do it". So it’s ok if we forcefully tell each other what to do?? I don’t think so…
manni - with due respect, once again you are reading intent and meaning into things that is not there - and despite your claims of being amused, are taking things far too seriously. It is almost as if you want there to be some kind of a threat. Speaking of threats, you are always threatening to report this or that poster - is it okay to tell someone what you think they can and cannot post under under the guise of repeated threats of being reported? I don’t think so…
Thanks for the definition And because somebody mentioned I should ask if I am not sure why somebody writes something?? @SendenHorse why did you mention in that specific moment in this discussion that I have my private information in my sig? It was not anything the discussion was asking for to mention it in that specific moment…
HAHAHAHA No it is not.She elected to use her farm name and such in a completely transparent way by placing it in her signature. Please revisit ‘doxing’ via Le Google.
Manni you are not being bullied. You are steering this conversation (yet again, as you have on many others) to you. Then crying foul that fellow posters aren’t posting right. If you don’t want such attention, don’t seek it. Telling you to lighten up isn’t bullying; heck, it’s darn helpful advise if you truly are feeling ganged up on. you aren’t from my POV, but I respect that yours is a different POV.
BACK TO THE OP’S SUBJECT
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I see the good and bad in social media. I was a huuuuuge fan of Elisa Wallace until that mess at Burleigh (sp?). Then I had some questions and concerns but people went starkers on her, absolutely BLASTING her and getting really personal and ugly in their attacks, calling her egotistical and heartless and cruel and selfish etc etc. Now that can cross a line into bullying and being overtly and intentionally cruel with the INTENT of really hurting feelings and getting under one’s skin. I just don’t much see the good in that.
HAHAHA I respectfully disagree…I had my farm name and my business in my sig forever…
The doxing is that Sendenhorse used it very planned and with a nasty intent at that moment, because she was hoping to scare me with it… Did you read her post???
She said: Manni if you are worried, you shouldn’t…
Where did I say I was worried??? I am not…
She only said this to have a reason to mention my private information at that specific moment because she wanted me to worry and hopefully to get scared…
I still wonder why you wrote that I was worried??? Where did I write this??
And did I ever give you any clue that I would follow your advice?? I am wondering about that as well.
I don’t even think you believe that I would listen to you…
You just wanted to give me a little scare… Thank you!!!
By the way that is bullying and obviously also doxing. Great that I learned a new word in this thread… It is getting more useful every day
Well I admit, I am steering the discussion towards bullying (isn’t that the topic anyhow??) and I admit bullying on this board is more important to me than bullying somewhere else…
And please remember I was dragged into it…
I only started to participate when somebody mentioned me… And I don’t care whether he/she mentioned my name or not. If you mention me you need to accept that I respond… So my advice would be that in the future stop mentioning me
Manni, I think you should just accept that Sendenhorse is going to follow you around and comment about the things you comment about and just ignore it. There is no use trying to explain your point of view to people (in general) that are never going to get or agree with it.
Sendenhorse, maybe you should try actually ignoring Manni if you dislike the things she comments about so much. You guys dislike each other, we get that. So one of you can be the bigger person, stop responding, and move on.
Still no. Doxxing is revealing the true identity of an anonymous person online, or revealing private identifying information which is not publicly available. As you stated, your identifying information is clearly displayed in your signature for all to see and has been for years. Someone pointing that fact out is not doxxing, not by a long shot.
Manni, don’t play innocent when page 2 of this thread features you kicking up sand about bullying here on coth. You very literally started the churn on this thread. That’s 100% on you.
On page 3 I quoted somebody who was talking about the NP threads and agreed to his opionion … obviously it doesn’t matter what I post, its all starting a riot… Don’t you think thats interesting???
I find a certain poster UNINTERESTING and downright BORING. I’ve learned to never respond directly to them. They truly appear to want to argue.
Bullies and bullying are a part of humans and animals. It’s something we do and being aware of it can help you to not be a bully yourself, but I don’t think you can influence anyone unless they are ready to change.
I think this is a good point and speaks to @Scribbler’s point bringing up a need for a more nuanced vocabulary in regards to bullying - and I think I would also link it to @x-halt-salute’s commentary about the social media migration of virtual spaces as well.
Ultimately I think what it always seems to come down to (as a spectator to most of these things) are two points:
Criticism, disagreement, or any other form of negative reaction isn’t inherently bullying.
I actually think that we have a moral obligation to our sport to react to the things we see that aren’t right. Call out poor behavior, poor riding, poor practice. It’s one of the greatest tools at our disposal (especially those of us who are effective “nobodies” in the sport - I certainly don’t have a platform or podium, a big name to back what I’m saying).
Which then leads to-
Criticism is legitimate. Being cruel, hateful, or devolving to histrionics is not.
This is really where the waters get muddy. I think oftentimes we see something we dislike and react strongly to it in the moment that we don’t think of how to best-present our thoughts. So instead of what could be a nuanced argument and criticism against a person, behavior, situation, it turns into an emotive, reactionary post that doesn’t do anything productive.
I also think this is the grey area that leads us towards the murkier waters of what’s acceptable practice for general etiquette. In a hypothetical situation: is creating a blog post blasting someone full of emotional statements and moral judgements against a rider bullying? Well, maybe not. Does that mean it’s appropriate? Also, maybe not.
Ultimately I guess for me it comes down to the concept of “you can be a part of the problem or a part of the solution.” It lacks nuance (there’s reasons for people saying “I can’t get involved” or “I’m not comfortable speaking out against something” and I recognize those reasons and think many of them are valid) but it seems to be a decent framework for how to behave. “Is what I am doing in this instant productive towards a positive atmosphere that I want to create/be involved in?” If the answer is no, don’t do it. Full stop.
And because somebody mentioned I should ask if I am not sure why somebody writes something?? 