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He is making the horse confused and terrified. Well, we all know that. But the video was indeed much worse than I expected too. And in the hands of his typical clients this is just a recipe for abusing your horse.
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Probably Stockholm syndrome repackaged to his giggly fans as obedience. That video made me wince.
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What disturbs me the most in this video is the gleeful giggling in the background. The woman is being literally conditioned to accept abuse as good training, and to be blind to the horses’ apparent confusion and terror. All while playing BIG bucks for the privilege…
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I grew up learning all this crap. It’s seriously like a cult. Believe me, this is so mild in comparison to what’s beneath the rest of the iceberg.
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Oh yes. This was my first introduction to horses when I started as well, and I’m grateful that I grew out of it and had lots of support from truly experienced equestrians. At many places that march under the Parelli flag, what happens behind closed doors is often terrifying. But hey ho, it’s natural and the horses are oh so trusting and happy!
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Yes! They love getting clunked on the jaw with a snap for some perceived insult. (sarcasm font)
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Wow I’m happy I’m not the only one then. I feel like either meet people who were brought up in it and still follow it or were just not brought up with natural horsemanship at all.
This is why I really don’t like the term “natural horsemanship” this Parelli nonsense to me, is what “natural horsemanship” is. This is why I think it’s important for others to know what it is and understand that just because it’s a guy in a cowboy hat, it doesn’t make it a softer more genuine approach. It’s rough, it’s abrasive, and it’s just teaching the horse to fall into learned helplessness. I think we should all just drop that stupid term when we’re referring to actual decent horse trainers like warwick Schiller, Mark rashid, John Lyons, etc.
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I want to know how you can keep them from bucking if they want to?? In my boarding days , when I had an arena I would turn them out and free lunge just for that purpose. Then we went on to have a great ride.
the ONE truthfull thing about this clip is that El Musatecho even admits at the 1.14 mark that his is not lunging - its the “Circle Game” and rightfully says that you have to face the horse and work very hard while lunging. That might be the only correct thing he has ever said.
The shortness of that rope and tightness of the circle makes me cringe.
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Fried hocks and a fried brain.
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And that is not a game. That is razzing up a well meaning and compliant horse in order to look like a Big Moustache in front of a girl. Me and my wild mustang. Absolutely unforgivable in an adult trainer.
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agreed. He’s a total crock.
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What struck me the most is how in his “training” of this poor horse his focus is 90% on getting school girl adoration from the insipid owner and 10% on terrorizing the horse into disjointed frenzied cross cantering. What the actual F? And why is his face so red?
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I couldn’t watch for more than a few seconds. Having spent the weekend at a horsemanship clinic, totally admiring the clinicians quiet confidence, and body language, this just looks like abuse to me.
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That’s because it is.
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Sort of. It’s smaller than the human’s but it exists. Their amygdala is larger, which accounts for some of the differences.
Now, do I think they make complex plans for how they are going to “get the rider” that day? No. That would be something only big brain big pre-frontal cortex animals can do.
But they very much deal in respect and hierarchies as ALL herd and flock animals do. They couldn’t get along without it.
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Yes, that’s obvious. Which I stated. And I thought was fairly obvious from the “Yikes”, and then the “answer wasn’t to go crazy initially”.
Dd you read the rest of my post or are you just purposely being difficult?
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Who cares about cross-cantering or even physical issues when you can do the CIRCLE game?!?
Because proper lunging is too demanding.
The amygdala isn’t part of the prefrontal cortex that’s totally different. I also don’t know what your point is about horses having an amygdala? Obviously horses feel emotions like pain, anxiety, fear, etc they just don’t have human emotions. Like the feeling of “respect” or “disrespect”.
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