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Ah ok thanks. I like CO and wanted a MIPS but I have suspicion it’s not going to fit me either.

I don’t dispute that this was true in April when the quotes in this article were given and it may still hold for Quantum Leap but there have been multiple sales posts up on IG in the last couple of days for both Camarillo and Quiberon. It doesn’t seem like they’re riding it out (lol pun not intended) with them until both horses are done competing.

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I highly recommend MIPS and many brands offer it now. My favorite helmet (I’m on #4, seriously) is the TraumaVoid Lynx helmet. I have a MIPS CO skull cap too but I reach for the Lynx 99% of the time year round. I have always like CO and the fit and comfort, I have at least 3 CO helmets and while they fit pretty well (especially the non MIPS versions I have for hunting), I have found a better daily fit elsewhere. It’s worth trying others!

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Doug has never been afraid to sell horses to finance his next ones (no judgement, it’s business), so I am not surprised that they might be looking to sell them in order to avoid the expenses and grind of competing older horses. If he keeps them they will only go down in value.

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My trainer does the same thing, no judgment here. I’m just pointing out that, as things currently stand, it seems like they’re expediting Doug’s transition out of eventing via these attempts to sell as opposed to campaigning the handful of event horses left until they’re done competing (what the quotes from April would suggest was the plan at the time).

Editing to add that it’s no skin off my nose if this is what they’re doing, they’ll make whatever decision is best for them, only pointing out that their active attempts to move horses along suggest that we’re not going to be seeing Doug at the upper levels of eventing for much longer if we see him at all. To get back to the point of this thread, with the upper-level (particularly 5*) rider pool as small as it is, being one rider down permanently is a loss of roughly 2% of the KY 5* entries (assuming 50 entries and one horse from that rider), and more than that if we’re talking American riders in particular.

Factor in Liz being out for the foreseeable future (though I hope she recovers as quickly as is possible for her continued wellbeing), Sydney Elliott being hurt, Cornelia Dorr not being back at the level yet (fair enough), and Doug seemingly bowing out of eventing now, that’s, what, 10% of the expected US-based American 5* group before you factor in potentially having multiple horses (and therefore multiple entries)? The bench just doesn’t seem to be that deep for 5* riders in the US at this point.

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Plans change. :woman_shrugging:

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Why do the Thoroughbreds all say “International Studbook Committee of Thoroughbreds” for the studbook on the draw order? I thought some were registered with the Jockey Club.

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https://www.internationalstudbook.com/about-isbc/history-inception

Re lack of depth at Maryland. Isn’t this what we worried about when the 4L became the level for Championships and therefor Team selections? The top of the pyramid was lowered and fewer riders, particularly in NA have the depth to aim for the very pinnacle of a 5 while also hoping their horse is reliably sound, fancy and competitive for Team consideration.
Four star and Five star horses often have different strengths and weaknesses that separate them.

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We have not had much rain recently and no rain in this weeks forecast. The ground will be fast on Saturday. My 10th year spectating at Fair Hill. I remember back in 2014 my first walk around the (then) 3*. I was in awe. And immediately hooked. Jennie Brannigan & Cambalda won that year. Weird how the brain works, can’t remember what I did yesterday half the time, but remember that clear as day.

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I read that the committee oversees Thoroughbred studbooks in many, many countries but aren’t the horses registered with a particular country’s studbook, not with the committee?

@Jump314 Yes, which is why the nationality of a horse bred “overseas” is noted in home TB racing pedigrees e.g. Frankel (GB) or Justify (USA) or Sea The Stars (IRE). However, until recently TB breeding wasn’t acknowledged by the World Breeding Federation for Sport Horses (WBFSH) which is the connection between sport horse breeding organizations and the FEI. The majority of TBs in sport are engaged in their second career, being bred for racing not sport. It was only at the recent Paris Olympics that TB breeding became formally acknowledged.

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Facebook post by Valerie Pride (public so should be viewable by anyone) showing how the 5* course jumps through a keyhole waterfall: https://www.facebook.com/100001023516570/videos/1071279740768885/

Interesting comments from riders on this one.

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I like ian stark’s courses but this jump is to gimmicky for me.

Is there an online course map for the XC? I can’t find one on the web site.

I don’t think it’s posted yet as this video was from course inspection

I looked at the jump with the overhead water falling down. It will probably be a trickle on competition day, so no worse than riding in the rain. I doubt most horses will even notice - it’s a rider mental question.

Ian used water trickling from a trakehener jump at Rebecca Farm. It was also subject to comments… and on the day, the water was barely coming out, it didn’t seem to cause the horses issues.

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Jog…anyone know if it will be streamed or be facebook live?

USEF network

Keyholes change the way the horses jump, as does a question in water. This one isn’t very restrictive (remember the Owl Keyhole?!) and is a nice and open frame. The water trickling down, eh. More of a rider question.

I’m reserving judgment to see how it rides - it’s certainly never a combo I would have thought up.

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I’m not seeing the jog on usef network, is anyone watching currently?

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