MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[LiberalSnowflake]

@Sdel

@BigMama1

@Horse_Daft

Regarding the claims of MB going to the farm house with a gun…perhaps he asked MHG and the CPS lady to leave the office so that he could check that all guns were still in the safe because he’s scared to death that a certain someone who claims to have access to his office, has gone in there and taken a gun to make good on her threats. So, he checks the safe, sees a gun is missing and goes to the farm house to see if it’s there, believing that LK and RG are gone because the FM gave them the boot.

Sounds plausible

And then he holds up and has a panic attack after getting out of his truck and realizing they are actually there and in the house.

Which would explain why RG said on the stand that MB looked “mournful” or “sorrowful” (or a similar word) with his empty hands raised when he exited his car on arrival at the house - as opposed to “angry” or “aggressive”.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

@MHM

@trubandloki

@Davignport

I have an idea. Why don’t all of us that are REALLY interested in the current motions before the court, let CH and HH carry on their own conversations and the rest of just sit and watch without engaging either one.

Because then a few month later one of them comes here and says, like they just did today, that someone posted X, Y, and Z and no one rebutted it so it must be true.

Really, who cares? They will continue to post nonsense, regardless. Why waste the time on them?

Because having blatant lies sitting there just sucks!

I realize it is a waste of time, but lies suck.

It is also a waste of time to post telling everyone else to post a certain way.

I’m not the one lying. I’m just saying a different view. The post I brought up had the sabotage something you also objected to. You really need to stop relying on calling people liars when you are shown to be wrong. It’s not working for you.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I provided a screen shot of the post you linked to. I think @Ambitious_Kate made some great points in that post. But it very much does not talk about the heat, propane, or frozen pipes, which is what you claimed it would talk about.

So how are you ignoring the comment “maybe he even made the pipe burst”?

@hut-ho78

So what changed? It was all about conspiracy theories that RG and LK had something to do with the pipes freezing but now it just happens? Did someone find out what was written on the receipt for the last propane delivery? Did MB cancel the other deliveries to save money because he didn’t realize the heat needed to run while they were away?

Hut, I am going to ask this again. Did you watch the insurance adjuster testimony above?
That testimony is the answer to your question. People theorized before, now we know the facts. Stating other than the known facts is passing around misinformation. In this area of the case there really is no reason to make up and state lies as facts and then say that at one point someone said maybe it could be that so it is OK.
Watch the video from the trial, where the insurance adjuster says that there was nothing wrong, just pipes under a counter freezing, something that happens.

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

Watch the video from the trial, where the insurance adjuster says that there was nothing wrong, just pipes under a counter freezing, something that happens.

So no space bug civil war then?

[trubandloki]

That is a much better theory than mine is… and maybe they will believe that.

[BigMama1]

@hut-ho78

So what changed? It was all about conspiracy theories that RG and LK had something to do with the pipes freezing but now it just happens?

Nope. The only conspiracy theory was LK’s fantasy that MHG committed insurance fraud to fund the reno she wanted to the house. Everyone else here believes the standard old house + cold winter = frozen pipes once in a while equation.

[MorganSercu]

MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

Question that may or may not have been addressed previously on this or another thread (I can’t remember). LK posted several times on SM that she knew that MB had received a big insurance check (and insinuated that he was engaged in insurance fraud). How did she know he had received it? Did he tell her directly? Did she see it arrive in the mail? Did she see the check laying around in his office? Did she hear MB talk about it? And if the latter, where was he and who was he talking to? And did L…

MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

I’m pretty sure if the heat had been off then the insurance adjuster would have mentioned it when he talked about the claim. He seemed to think it was a standard hazard for a house of that age during winter. The prosecution would have ran with it to make their case as evidence that he shot her to shut her up. What was very interesting about that piece of testimony is that he said LK never talked to him like she claimed she did in order to suggest to him that MB was attempting to commit ins…

MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

I do not know how the house was heated. Otherwise, this may be of interest? [Screen Shot 2022-11-14 at 12.29.59 AM] [Screen Shot 2022-11-14 at 12.30.20 AM]

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

So what changed? It was all about conspiracy theories that RG and LK had something to do with the pipes freezing but now it just happens? Did someone find out what was written on the receipt for the last propane delivery? Did MB cancel the other deliveries to save money because he didn’t realize the heat needed to run while they were away?

He’s from upstate NY.
Not to mention, he’d left the NJ house for the winter in the past…
So, no.

[eggbutt]

That out-of-the-country excursion should be almost over and the parental units will be back to either comply with the subpoenas (finally) or face contempt. I wonder if the tapes and transcripts are at the bottom of the Nile?

[Ambitious_Kate]

Right? Seems like such a lack luster trip. So un-urgent and contrived.

[trubandloki]

Oh my, we are still theorizing about this…
If we are going to theorize then I am going to assume that Michael had the NJ house set up with some seriously good technology to keep it safe and Mother Nature, like she likes to do, laughed at all his stuff and figured out a way to freeze his pipes anyway.
I have no doubt that his propane tank had a notification system to make sure he and probably the propane company knew when it was getting low, so there was never a time when he accidently ran out of propane at a time when he was not there to notice it was out. There are also all kinds of fancy thermostat set-ups that can be set to call you if the temperature in the house is going too low.

I still think, and the insurance adjuster confirms it, I am sure much to the annoyance of Lauren Kanarek and her desire to make up stories, that the frozen pipes are just one of those horrible things that happens in lots of places in the winter, no matter how hard you try to make it not happen.

But seriously, why are we talking about this and not the topic that we should be talking about. The big looming question of why a lawyer, Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya), would totally ignore a subpoena in the civil case that his daughter filed? Why would the wife of the same lawyer, Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1), also ignore a subpoena in the civil case that her daughter filed? Why would a lawyer, Jonathan Kanarek, think it is OK to send a private communication to the judge in the civil case that his daughter filed? Those are the looming questions that need answers.

[eggbutt]

Bottom line…if there was any wrongdoing regarding the damaged pipes in Michael’s home, I guarantee there would have been charges by now. Insurance companies are stingy when it comes to paying out for fraud. Enough with this already. Stop the participation with this idiocy.

[trubandloki]

I really want to understand how someone who can brag all over social media (including this forum) that they are sending the recording transcripts to all of these random places to make sure Michael is as damaged by them as possible can turn around and then ignore the subpoena that is simply asking for the same transcripts.

In the grand scheme of things, that should have been one of the easiest subpoenas to answer, since Mom Kanarek (Kirby Kanarek - @Seeker1) boasted here about making them and her and her daughter bragged about sending them, pretty darn recently even, so why not just provide them, and all the bombshells they contain, for the civil case that their daughter filed when asked for them?

None of that makes any sense. And none of that is theories or guesses or made up stories.

[3PonyFarm]

FINALLY, Some rulings! @ekat, what is partial order to quash? Edit-I see now where Judge S approved motion to quash.

Edit to add, motion to compel and hold in contempt denied

Legal peeps who were able to view rulings, what would be the next step? Can defendants appeal decison?

[Kitty64]

I didn’t like the beginning of the response where the judge repeats the Kanarek narrative! “Shot at point blank range, multiple times”. Doesn’t sound impartial to me.

Add: “without warning or provocation”. Is this guy for real?!?

[DownYonder]

@Scribbler

It’s possible the actual interviewer was sitting off to the left of the camera. In general the camera man and interviewer are separate jobs.

If that was the case, then why were Bilinkas and Deininger looking straight at the camera and “relaxed”? Wouldn’t the interviewer want the setup to be consistent?

[3PonyFarm]

Me neither

[Angela_Freda]

And the insurance guy wouldn’t have testified as he did, if there was potential shenanigans.

[DownYonder]

Just saying regarding Sceusi’s filings yesterday - it would be so very, very interesting to know the contents of that email he received from JK.

[lazaret]

I have a long meeting later today and I will check to see what was posted. We may not get to see the reasoning behind the rulings.

[ekat]

Sorry, I live in Mountain Standard Time. So, I’m just waking up.

@Moderator_1, the new thread is here.

Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

Finally, the court has ruled on all the pending motions. Will continue to update here. 11152022 Rulings on Motions.pdf (596.3 KB) 11152022 Order for Schell to produce forensics .pdf (415.1 KB)

This one can be closed now. Thank you.

To everyone - I put the rulings in a new thread because this one is too long, too unwieldy and will collapse under the weight of the rulings.