MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@LexInVA

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

Darn honeymoon and who pays for it (for the record, no one in my world had parents pay for the honeymoon), this is a weird tangent

The weird tangent was created by @LexInVA, who claimed that the other Kanarek daughters had to go “begging, hat in hand” to pay for their honeymoons.

How on earth would she know this? It’s probably just another made up, nasty, remark (AKA lie) designed to smear the Kanarek family.

How does the wealth or poverty of the Kanarek family even matter for the supposed topic of this thread? It doesn’t.

A simple Google search of the sister’s respective names had turned up the donation pages and there are public online data search places that can show piles of collated information, including what vehicles and property are associated with a name and address, because that data is collected whenever paperwork is filled out for various reasons and that data is gathered and sold en-masse to other companies to use with marketing and other things. It’s a Big-Data world we live in now.

Sounds like cyber stalking to me.

[SillyHorse]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sounds like cyber stalking to me.

[EADoug]

I think we need a Bingo card for key word dropping here.

[LexInVA]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@LexInVA

@CurrentlyHorseless

@LexInVA

The other daughters had to go begging outside the family, hat in hand, to pay for their own honeymoons

How on earth would you know this?

Many, many couples pay for their own weddings these days, and even 50 years ago the tradition was that the groom pays for the honeymoon, not the father of the bride.

They both had online donation pages, so that friends and family could give money to finance their respective affairs. One of the daughters wanted a South Pacific destination honeymoon.

Oh. So the daughters had on line registries as most couples do these days.

And you describe it as “begging hat in hand”.

No, they were not wedding registry entries. They were donation pages and they had their wedding registry pages elsewhere. The youngest daughter solicited donations for both Honeymoon and purchasing a house and I only recall the middle daughter wanting money for her multi-destination South Pacific Honeymoon, which she got in the end, along with an expensive wedding reception.

[Maria]

Or a Family Feud type show with catch phrases like:

I am going to sue XYZ

No one deserves to be shot

Finish the Bastard

She admitted that she lies on SM

NGRI

NG

I am an attorney because I read about law on the internet

cyber stalking

Daaaaaaaady, I want it and I want it Noooooooooowwwwww

Edit to Add:

Poor Rosie

Audio Recordings, in your locker or in your pocket?

Barfoot Ninja costumes

Edit to Add others suggestions:

No one asked her to move

Who’s my hero

She flatlined x times

She was cut open stem to stern

Baseless smear

Lies!

[Kitty64]

No one asked her to move
This was supposed to add to the above^

[anon6923113]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sounds like cyber stalking to me.

Really?

What we are talking about is a digital footprint associated with a person.

Employers engage in this sort of background research (combing through someone’s digital footprint) all the time. Also, for folks who have any kind of security clearances, it’s expected that your digital footprint will be examined.

Bottom line, if you don’t want people to know certain things about you, don’t set up public sites asking for funding for your honeymoon. Don’t post stuff on social media accounts that have your first and last name associated with them. Make sure all your settings for various social media accounts are private.

This is the modern world we live in. People who work in HR, or as PI’s, or for firms that carry out background investigations for security clearances or other reasons…. Well… these people are able to gather the EXACT sort of information Lex sometimes shares during COTH discussions on different topics. And they can gather that info QUICKLY. Like… within minutes.

That’s not stalking. That’s simply researching someone’s digital footprint.

[Sdel]

@Maria

Or a Family Feud type show with catch phrases like:

Who’s my hero?

[evtrmom]

took me about 2 seconds to google the definition, and that is not at all what cyberstalking is. Looking up information that is public on the internet is not stalking. My 80 something year old Father who is a retired DR, had a patient from 50 years ago look him up on the internet and send him a letter to his personal home address. Weird, but not a definition of cyberstalking either.

[Sdel]

@anon6923113

People who work in HR, or as PI’s, or for firms that carry out background investigations for security clearances or other reasons…. Well… these people are able to gather the EXACT sort of information Lex sometimes shares during COTH discussions on different topics. And they can gather that info QUICKLY. Like… within minutes.

And both sisters should know this because I believe they are both headhunter type employees.

[Kitty64]

She flatlined x times

She was cut open stem to stern

[Sdel]

Oh…

Baseless smear

Lies!

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Ambitious_Kate

I always wondered why Currently Clueless kept saying 48 hours presented a balanced report as though she thought it presented LK in a positive light. . I would think, really? She comes off as a deceitful grifter what are you so smiley about? She admitted to falsifying a report MB to CPS for sexual abuse, who exactly do you think is going to want you around their horses, children, barn? Or talk to you at a dinner party? You’re animals. It’s over. You did it to your selves.

Maybe your confusion stems from the fact that your conviction that I am a member of the Kanarek family or other Kanarek insider or a Kanarek apologist is just wrong.

I thought the 48 Hours episode was balanced and impartial. It did not cover up LKs creepy SM posts, and at the same time reported as fact that MB got the gun from the safe and drove to the farmhouse, although he did remember “the crime”.

They quoted Bilinkas explaining that the verdict meant that MB was not responsible for “his actions”. Every single viewer other than those here in the mob understand that what Bilinkas meant by “actions” was “shooting her”.

They did not report that she “admitted to falsifying a report MB to CPS for sexual abuse.”

That’s why I liked the 48 Hours episode so much — it did not contain the made up “COTH - facts that get spun here so tiresomely.

I challenge your statement in that I see many comments across SM that say exactly what we here say and those people are not us saying it. This common disbelief is on FB, YouTube, Twitter, etc.

So your statement that the world of outside viewers believes MB took the gun and whatever else you said is not factual.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Fiesta01

Interesting. She seemed so pleased after her interviews with 48 Hours, as if she just knew she had come across well. Delusions are running deep chez LK.

@Ambitious_Kate

my guess is they let people rattle on and on about themselves and the story theyv’e cooked up about themselves, and she probably thought they bought it hoook line and sinker. Come to find out, they are investigative journalists. They know what the truth is, and maybe their agreement meant they really couldn’t cook LK alive like they had the goods to do, but it didn’t mean they were going to print the interviews she did with them.

LK hobbled them from telling the story, but they hobbled her story from being aired. She must have been aghasted when the show came out and none of her interviews about herself were aired. Just the trudge down the strange barn aisle, petting the strange horses, acting scared to brush a horse, telling a stupid story about bowing to horses when you meet them. And the close up of a ticked off box she sent reporting MB as a sexual predator to children.

Lets see. They showed her her form she filled out for SS, and asked her if she reported him to SS. She said yes, because reporting him to SS is part of her big story about how much she “abused her” etc. But CBS isn’t dumb. They knew the biggest shame of her reporting him to SS was her acusation of child sexual abuse. It is, after all, the main reason SS exists. It was, after all, the catalyst, they found while investigating, for what happened that fateful day. CPS showed up. MB went into the office, found his gun missing, and thence up to the house which was supposed to be empty after the county told everyone to leave the night before, and he wanted to look for that gun. CPS. Gun missing. What the ever loving hell is happening?

Well, CBS didn’t speculate on the gun missing, I have. Nobody can say it didn’t happen like that, though.

So CBS makes Lauren Kanarek look like scum white trash who reported an olympic rider and trainer as a pedo on false charges. Anyone who does something like that is a social pariah. Hope you’ve made a great life for yourself, now, Lauren. Your life will never be the same. .

I made some edits

[Jealoushe]

@evtrmom

Looking up information that is public on the internet is not stalking.

It’s not the looking it up on the internet. It’s the tracking of every single move one makes online etc

I’ve posted this before

• monitor the victim’s online – and, in some cases, offline – activities;
• track the victim’s locations and follow them online or offline;
• annoy the victim;
• intimidate, frighten, control or blackmail the victim;
• reveal private information about the victim, a practice known as doxing ; or
• gather more information about the victim to steal their identity or perpetrate other real-world crimes, like theft or harassment.

What is cyberstalking and how to prevent it?

[anon6923113]

@LexInVA

No, they were not wedding registry entries. They were donation pages and they had their wedding registry pages elsewhere. The youngest daughter solicited donations for both Honeymoon and purchasing a house and I only recall the middle daughter wanting money for her multi-destination South Pacific Honeymoon, which she got in the end, along with an expensive wedding reception.

Fascinating.

A few thoughts.

1. If Daddy-O was as wealthy as many have assumed all along, his daughters wouldn’t need donation pages.

2. This family seems very fixated on doing “all the things” people with more disposable income than they likely have get to do. In short… they seem to want to live a life that is a bit beyond their means. I’m not saying that to be judgemental… just noting it. There are plenty of upper middle class, or middle middle class, families who are perfectly happy living within their means, and don’t go about setting up donation pages to help finance extravagant honeymoons.

3. It is interesting that the youngest daughter set up a page to solicit donations to help purchase a house. Isn’t Daddy theoretically funding LKs dressage hobby… which costs upwards of $10,000 per month? Hmmmm. If I was little sister, I would be a bit annoyed that I had to solicit donations like this for a home purchase. But… maybe some of the common assumptions about the Ks are all wrong. Maybe Daddy the wasn’t ever the actual source of the funds that LK uses to support her horse hobby. MAYBE the money comes from somewhere else.

[Sparky]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@LexInVA

@CurrentlyHorseless

@LexInVA

The other daughters had to go begging outside the family, hat in hand, to pay for their own honeymoons

How on earth would you know this?

Many, many couples pay for their own weddings these days, and even 50 years ago the tradition was that the groom pays for the honeymoon, not the father of the bride.

They both had online donation pages, so that friends and family could give money to finance their respective affairs. One of the daughters wanted a South Pacific destination honeymoon.

Oh. So the daughters had on line registries as most couples do these days.

And you describe it as “begging hat in hand”.

[LexInVA]

@anon6923113

@LexInVA

No, they were not wedding registry entries. They were donation pages and they had their wedding registry pages elsewhere. The youngest daughter solicited donations for both Honeymoon and purchasing a house and I only recall the middle daughter wanting money for her multi-destination South Pacific Honeymoon, which she got in the end, along with an expensive wedding reception.

Fascinating.

A few thoughts.

1. If Daddy-O was as wealthy as many have assumed all along, his daughters wouldn’t need donation pages.

2. This family seems very fixated on doing “all the things” people with more disposable income than they likely have get to do. In short… they seem to want to live a life that is a bit beyond their means. I’m not saying that to be judgemental… just noting it. There are plenty of upper middle class, or middle middle class, families who are perfectly happy living within their means, and don’t go about setting up donation pages to help finance extravagant honeymoons.

3. It is interesting that the youngest daughter set up a page to solicit donations to help purchase a house. Isn’t Daddy theoretically funding LKs dressage hobby… which costs upwards of $10,000 per month? Hmmmm. If I was little sister, I would be a bit annoyed that I had to solicit donations like this for a home purchase. But… maybe some of the common assumptions about the Ks are all wrong. Maybe Daddy the wasn’t ever the actual source of the funds that LK uses to support her horse hobby. MAYBE the money comes from somewhere else.

The youngest daughter got married in 2015, when Papa Jon wasn’t dumping large amounts of $$$$ into LK’s “existence” or at least didn’t seem to be, as far as we know. The middle one got married in 2017, with a lavish and expensive, publicized wedding and reception, and got a pricey multi-destination Honeymoon. It seems like Papa Jon reached retirement age some years back and then started opening up the coffers from whatever he amassed during his working years, which could be enough to make him a low-grade millionaire, but he is certainly NOT someone of “unlimited means”, as his wayward progeny calls it.

[BatCoach]

I do think these types of donation pages (zola, honeyfund etc) are quite common and actually a smart move for us normal folks. People are getting married later in life, and usually already have all of their household goods that a registry would normally provide (yes, I am agreeing with @hut-ho78 here).

It is a good way to give a useful gift that the bride and groom will appreciate rather than more towels or flatware or china that will sit in a cupboard gathering dust. I’ve happily donated to my freind’s honeyfund for her wedding. I did not see it as begging for money in the slightest.

BUT

A honeymoon fund is NOT what an upper-crust “unlimited means” person would do. People I know in that echelon would find it extremely gauche. The only type of gift or donation encouraged at those level of weddings is a donation to a reputable charitable cause that is dear to the bride and groom.

So while a honeymoon fund is not begging for money, IMO it is certainly not something a family with unlimited coiffers would do.

[anon6923113]

This description of the family financial situation makes total sense to me.

Plenty of upper middle class people, who saved and planned are “low grade millionaires” upon reaching retirement age. But if the millions are tied up in 401ks, IRAs, or Roth IRAs… there are definitely limits when it comes to their disposable income.

I have parents and in laws who are all retired. All did well professionally (some actually did QUITE well for years). All planned well. All are millionaires on paper. None of them could afford to shell out $10,000 a month to support any of my or my siblings’, or my sibling in laws’ hobbies. Doing so would potentially jeopardize the older folks’ long term financial security, if they all live into their nineties.