MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[Warmblood1]

It is odd. If you hate the owner, why would you be so inclined to want to pet and feed their horse? Logical thing to do would be to stay away. Banned substances can be transferred just by touch as well. That’s why I never touch someone else’s competition horse unless I have a need to and their permission. And everyone knows how poorly people look at a rider whose horse has been eliminated for banned substances.

[Angela_Freda]

Yes. They sell sugar cubes at the grocery store.
Just bought some for sons girlfriend at college, she’s a coffee drinker and was spending $$$ on coffee on campus, so I set her up so she can make her own.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

Random discussion related to the topic of this thread - well a tangent.

On the topic of the thread, I went through my happy routine of checking fire hydrants and got super excited because there was a new entry! Imagine my disappointment when I saw it was just a new case management conference set for January, 2023.

But, hey, maybe it’s a sign we will soon find out how the Judge feels about JK/IM’s inappropriate email, and the other pending motions.

The website is now not letting me back in.

[Angela_Freda]

@Warmblood1

Banned substances can be transferred just by touch as well. That’s why I never touch someone else’s competition horse unless I have a need to and their permission. And everyone knows how poorly people look at a rider whose horse has been eliminated for banned substances.

The parallels to NP keep coming.
Wasn’t he upset that security in the FEI barn at DaD booted him out after he was touching a horse?

[eggbutt]

@MHM

@Angela_Freda

Likely.

I wonder how easy it would be to call in a suggestion that a horse had been drugged…?

I don’t know if that actually happens. That is to say, I don’t know if drug testers take suggestions from outsiders about which horses to test. That seems like a terrible idea.

But it is absolutely a real possibility to get tested at any recognized show. And the odds are definitely higher at certain shows and certain levels.

Drug tests are done randomly with bridle numbers drawn or randomly selected based on the shows series of bridle numbers.

[Warmblood1]

Lol, yes. And “security” tackled him and threatened him with a gun (I believe he was also supposedly a minor). Some people make lying into an art form - not NP.

[MorganSercu]

@trubandloki

Do they still sell that at the grocery store?

Yes. Spare Child likes to have them around and I figure what the heck - it’s not going to break the bank and if it feels special, have at it!

[PDDT]

But he did not and could not give evidence of who did the shooting.

[Sdel]

@PDDT

But he did not and could not give evidence of who did the shooting.

Being an “ear witness” only, he could not even give evidence as to if LK was lying to him or not.

[Maria]

I know, RIGHT!

What the heck is wrong with sugar cubes?

[trubandloki]

@Maria

What the heck is wrong with sugar cubes?

I do not think the point here is that there is something wrong with sugar cubes.

What is wrong is that someone asked another person to not feed their horse sugar cubes and that other person refused to comply with the owner’s request.

That is ignoring all the things one can easily taint a sugar cube with that would cause real problems for someone competing.

[Maria]

I get you. my funny failed. lol

I feed sugar cubes.

No one is EVER going to care about tainting a sugar cube where I am concerned. I believe my shows days are long over.

[cutter99]

@eggbutt

@MHM

@Angela_Freda

Likely.

I wonder how easy it would be to call in a suggestion that a horse had been drugged…?

I don’t know if that actually happens. That is to say, I don’t know if drug testers take suggestions from outsiders about which horses to test. That seems like a terrible idea.

But it is absolutely a real possibility to get tested at any recognized show. And the odds are definitely higher at certain shows and certain levels.

Drug tests are done randomly with bridle numbers drawn or randomly selected based on the shows series of bridle numbers.

How would it be handled if someone called, anonymously of course, and said a specific competitor has drugged their horse? Would a show organization or host order drug testing on that horse?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@PDDT

But he did not and could not give evidence of who did the shooting.

Being an “ear witness” only, he could not even give evidence as to if LK was lying to him or not.

So you think LK was lying to ED and also lying during the 911 call?

[trubandloki]

Lauren Kanarek admitted that lying is what she does to get what she wants.

[cutter99]

@trubandloki

@Maria

What the heck is wrong with sugar cubes?

I do not think the point here is that there is something wrong with sugar cubes.

What is wrong is that someone asked another person to not feed their horse sugar cubes and that other person refused to comply with the owner’s request.

That is ignoring all the things one can easily taint a sugar cube with that would cause real problems for someone competing.

Absolutely nothing wrong with sugar cubes, but remember how the original polio vaccinations were given to children? On sugar cubes!

Could a horse be “contaminated” with an illegal drug given to them via sugar cube? I would think so!

Let me just give you another example.

I worked in the feed industry for many years. At one point at a competitor’s customer’s horses (I don’t recall the discipline specifically but think it was racing) tested positive for a stimulant.

The owner knew it was not something they were giving the horses, and started to assume sabotage from an outside source. Then the actually horse feed came into question. When the ingredient records were pulled on the specific lot of feed, it was determined that bakery products were used in the feed, and they contained chocolate. And chocolate contains caffeine, which is a stimulant.

What I am trying to say is there is more than one way to skin a cat, or ruin a person’s life!

Do I believe there are people nefarious enough to give a horse a banned substance on a sugar cube or through some other innocuous manner???

HELL YES!!!

FINISH THE BASTARD AND MGH AS WELL!!!

[Kitty64]

ED’s testimony was not helpful for the prosecution, imo. He wasn’t prepared and his testimony wasn’t even consistent while he was on the stand. He was also argumentative and the chummy conversation with the judge was a bad look.

[Maria]

I don’t think ED knows or had the whole story. Sure he heard the 2 shots, but he does not know what happened before the shots.

[cheval_convert]

Those of us who worry about IR definitely do not feed sugar cubes.

[Graymaresrule]

IIRC the Dick Francis novel Nerve had that plot element, sedatives given to race horses on the way to the post.