MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[trubandloki]

@MHM

@trubandloki

@Davignport

I have an idea. Why don’t all of us that are REALLY interested in the current motions before the court, let CH and HH carry on their own conversations and the rest of just sit and watch without engaging either one.

Because then a few month later one of them comes here and says, like they just did today, that someone posted X, Y, and Z and no one rebutted it so it must be true.

Really, who cares? They will continue to post nonsense, regardless. Why waste the time on them?

Because having blatant lies sitting there just sucks!

I realize it is a waste of time, but lies suck.

It is also a waste of time to post telling everyone else to post a certain way.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

It is also a waste of time to post telling everyone else to post a certain way.

That may be true, but lots of people do it anyway. Lol.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

Well you just insulted KM and anyone else who works or has worked in government. You are incorrect as well. Government goes all out with ethics standards, training, HR resources, leadership and counseling training, forms to fill out that fulfill legal requirements, etc.

Please NEVER feel the need to protect me.

There are many buttwipes working in government. I’ve had 2 as bosses. But I’m happy to say that justice eventually found them, with one having to surrender his firearm before being escorted out of the courthouse in cuffs.

A few days later, the local paper cited heart problems. Oh how I laughed and laughed!

I’ve seen judges go bye bye. Our own judges saw one get tossed after a drunken drive damages a dozen cars, and the other was brought down due to being touchy feely with many women. That one was quite the adventure with every female in the courthouse being driven in law enforcement cars to the judicial conduct people by subpoena (we didn’t duck it) to immediately testify. Myself included.

So government idiots are just as plentiful as idiots in public, horse world idiots, religious idiots, etc. So while each “world” has many fine people, they ALL also have idiots.

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@MHM

@trubandloki

@Davignport

I have an idea. Why don’t all of us that are REALLY interested in the current motions before the court, let CH and HH carry on their own conversations and the rest of just sit and watch without engaging either one.

Because then a few month later one of them comes here and says, like they just did today, that someone posted X, Y, and Z and no one rebutted it so it must be true.

Really, who cares? They will continue to post nonsense, regardless. Why waste the time on them?

Because having blatant lies sitting there just sucks!

I realize it is a waste of time, but lies suck.

It is also a waste of time to post telling everyone else to post a certain way.

I’m not the one lying. I’m just saying a different view. The post I brought up had the sabotage something you also objected to. You really need to stop relying on calling people liars when you are shown to be wrong. It’s not working for you.

[Joanne]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What I remember is that the defense psychiatric expert testified that MB told him that he remembered getting the gun out of the safe and driving down to the house with the gun.

Are you sure about that? “MB told him” ?

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

@MHM

@trubandloki

@Davignport

I have an idea. Why don’t all of us that are REALLY interested in the current motions before the court, let CH and HH carry on their own conversations and the rest of just sit and watch without engaging either one.

Because then a few month later one of them comes here and says, like they just did today, that someone posted X, Y, and Z and no one rebutted it so it must be true.

Really, who cares? They will continue to post nonsense, regardless. Why waste the time on them?

Because having blatant lies sitting there just sucks!

I realize it is a waste of time, but lies suck.

It is also a waste of time to post telling everyone else to post a certain way.

I’m not the one lying. I’m just saying a different view. The post I brought up had the sabotage something you also objected to. You really need to stop relying on calling people liars when you are shown to be wrong. It’s not working for you.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I provided a screen shot of the post you linked to. I think @Ambitious_Kate made some great points in that post. But it very much does not talk about the heat, propane, or frozen pipes, which is what you claimed it would talk about.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

I have no idea what you are talking about. I provided a screen shot of the post you linked to. I think @Ambitious_Kate made some great points in that post. But it very much does not talk about the heat, propane, or frozen pipes, which is what you claimed it would talk about.

What I don’t get is why some post in that thread matters? It was stated as fact - not speculation - that Michael Barisone “didn’t pay his gas bill allowing the pipes to freeze”.

There was under oath testimony that shows that is not, in fact, a fact, linked above. Some might call that statement a lie, even as it’s not a different point of view, a misstatement of fact, or shows confusion. It’s just flat out wrong.

So, how does random speculation in some other thread by CoTH posters, help us determine what is a lie? How does that help?

[Fiesta01]

Ha! They would apparently be without a police department if they actually held anyone to standards.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Joanne

@CurrentlyHorseless

What I remember is that the defense psychiatric expert testified that MB told him that he remembered getting the gun out of the safe and driving down to the house with the gun.

Are you sure about that? “MB told him” ?

My memory is not infallible, but what I remember is that one of the two defense experts testified that MB told him that he (MB) remembered taking the gun out of the safe and driving down to the farmhouse, but remembered nothing after that.

I think that meshes well with the 48 Hours presenter stating as fact that MB took the gun from the safe and drove down to the house, but “what happened after that is unclear”.

That’s what I remember.

[Joanne]

@CurrentlyHorseless

My memory is not infallible, but what I remember is that one of the two defense experts testified that MB told him that he (MB) remembered taking the gun out of the safe and driving down to the farmhouse, but remembered nothing after that.

Maybe you are vaguely remembering this?

2:36:58

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[Maria]

no outrage from me

[PDDT]

I’ve never understood people posting comments like this. This is a discussion forum. It is not the responsibility of people posting here to keep others informed. There is a publicly assessible, even out of the US, website where anyone who wants an update can go. If you don’t enjoy this thread, please go there and stop chastising the rest of us.

And many thanks to Ekat for posting updates.

[ekat]

@PDDT

And many thanks to Ekat for posting updates.

You are very welcome! Hopefully we will have news soon!

[cutter99]

@trubandloki

@MHM

@trubandloki

@Davignport

I have an idea. Why don’t all of us that are REALLY interested in the current motions before the court, let CH and HH carry on their own conversations and the rest of just sit and watch without engaging either one.

Because then a few month later one of them comes here and says, like they just did today, that someone posted X, Y, and Z and no one rebutted it so it must be true.

Really, who cares? They will continue to post nonsense, regardless. Why waste the time on them?

Because having blatant lies sitting there just sucks!

I realize it is a waste of time, but lies suck.

It is also a waste of time to post telling everyone else to post a certain way.

To build on what @trubandloki has said, lies, especially such blatant ones, need to be stopped dead in their tracks immediately, if not sooner.

Unrefuted lies have a tendency to grow rapidly and be expanded upon multiple times over.

It is like a bad childhood game of “telephone”. The further down the line the lie gets, the worse it sounds.

[SillyHorse]

@trubandloki

Because having blatant lies sitting there just sucks!

I realize it is a waste of time, but lies suck.

Then all anyone has to do is respond “No.”

[RHdobes563]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

< whispers quietly to remind CH >

There is no proof he took the gun with him.

And if he did happen to take the gun with him (which again, there is no proof of) …It is a concrete plausible scenario that with the dog attacking someone the day before, and him not knowing if that same dog was still lose inside his house, that protection was needed.

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would have carried a weapon when entering my own house if there was a risk of an out of control dog inside.

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would never carry a gun when entering my own house, especially if I had been acquainted with the dog for months. MB and Rosie were well familiar with each other by then.

I had a good teacher/mentor/friend in dog obedience training. My breed was Dobermans; hers was German Shepherds. She was known so much for her great love for the breed. When one of the many rural shelters near her had a GSD whose time was ‘running out’, they would call her. Invariably, she would take the dog and find it a home.

One of her most brilliant obedience dogs was Kaiser. Kaiser came from a home with an older couple. When the man whose dog Kaiser was passed away, Kaiser was ‘re-homed’ because he had one day pinned the Wife. To. The. Floor. My friend, E took him and did brilliant things with him.

One weekend, my friend E and I together took our dogs, Kaiser and Dante’, to some obedience trials. We shared a hotel room, and I awoke in the middle of the night to see Kaiser sleeping on the floor and my dog Dante’ sleeping in the bed with my friend E. The four of us spent a lot of time that weekend together, obviously.

On the way home, I stopped to fill my van with gas. When I tried to open my door, this is what I saw (stock photo alert):

My friend E had to physically restrain the dog that had been sitting between the two of us five minutes before. In addition, I wasn’t a stranger to Kaiser. I trained with E at her house in her pole barn. Kaiser was often with her, as I could act as a judge, steward, etc. for her after my lesson was over. I had a LOT of interaction with Kaiser, but I was ALWAYS very careful around him.

And, for what it’s worth, I have two scars on my face from being bitten by a dog as a child.

[eggbutt]

@Moderator_1

Ignored users’ tags should not generate notifications. I’ve sent another message to our tech support to address this issue and the sporadic behavior of the ignore feature. We are due for a software update, so hopefully when that is taken care of, this glitch will be fixed.

Do you know if the old true Block feature will return?

Thanks for all you do! I know these threads take a lot of your time since they sometimes become kindergarten rooms!

[Maria]

Yep. Any dog can bite you and any horse can kill you. You never lose respect for either. No matter how bopable their nose may be

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

@MHM

@trubandloki

@Davignport

I have an idea. Why don’t all of us that are REALLY interested in the current motions before the court, let CH and HH carry on their own conversations and the rest of just sit and watch without engaging either one.

Because then a few month later one of them comes here and says, like they just did today, that someone posted X, Y, and Z and no one rebutted it so it must be true.

Really, who cares? They will continue to post nonsense, regardless. Why waste the time on them?

Because having blatant lies sitting there just sucks!

I realize it is a waste of time, but lies suck.

It is also a waste of time to post telling everyone else to post a certain way.

I’m not the one lying. I’m just saying a different view. The post I brought up had the sabotage something you also objected to. You really need to stop relying on calling people liars when you are shown to be wrong. It’s not working for you.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I provided a screen shot of the post you linked to. I think @Ambitious_Kate made some great points in that post. But it very much does not talk about the heat, propane, or frozen pipes, which is what you claimed it would talk about.

So how are you ignoring the comment “maybe he even made the pipe burst”?

[dotneko]

@PDDT

I’ve never understood people posting comments like this. This is a discussion forum. It is not the responsibility of people posting here to keep others informed. There is a publicly assessible, even out of the US, website where anyone who wants an update can go. If you don’t enjoy this thread, please go there and stop chastising the rest of us.

And many thanks to Ekat for posting updates.

Because this topic is of interest to some of us.
The main posters tell others ‘don’t respond to so and so’. Then one of them decides that they can respond to so and so even though they have warned everyone else not to. Then there are 300 stupid posts arguing about things that have been hashed out ad infinitum.
Then there are 200 posts of recipes and it starts all over again.
The actual useful information gets buried in the dross.