So is JK’s letter to the judge posted anywhere? Or just the responses to it from the actual lawyers in the case?
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Not posted yet. Hopefully it will make its way into the online file.
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Do you think the letter is the reason why there were no decisions made last week or is it most likely delays in the court system?
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I would love to read that letter, I bet it is a doozy.
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I think the judge decided to wait based on the case management session, and based on that session JK got nervous and decided to “take matters into his own hands” and emailed the judge all kinds of inappropriate arguments and “evidence”, and didn’t expect this because no one has ever outed him before…and the judge put the issues back on the docket as a response to the MCPO order and this letter.
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whoooooa this is so fascinating.
I can’t say I’ve ever engaged in a case where someone with no representation decided to find a judge’s email and just pop off an email directly to the judge in a pending matter. Amazing.
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I’m going to assume that isn’t allowed?
This whole sequence of events is just unreal, starting with ignoring the subpoenas from July, then having someone who doesn’t represent you file a very belated motion to quash after a request for contempt is filed, to this? From an attorney?
It’s so bizarre.
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I think it would depend on when the letter/email was received. It’s hard to tell anything one way or another from what we do know.
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That footnote is hilarious in its objective confusion. I loved it.
ETA: BOTH footnotes. hilarious.
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Oh my gosh yes. Never skip the footnotes here!
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Thank you @jvanrens for the screen shot of the footnote. I had not read that when I read the documents. That is very interesting. Good share!
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Oh yes, a very small glimpse into what was in the letter….
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No, it is not allowed.
Ex parte communication is what occurs when one side of a case communicates directly with a judge without the awareness of the other party or parties.
Ex parte communication is inherently unethical and harmful for the judicial process. All parties are entitled to equal access to the finder of fact. Any attorney would know that arguing any point directly with a judge would be absolutely not appropriate.
If there is proof positive of ex parte communication (here, there is not, because the judge correctly notified the parties that the communication exists and what it contains) that is grounds for a. voluntary recusal or b. a motion to force the recusal of the presiding judge.
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Thank you for explaining!
We have a lot of law folk here…
Are all these happenings in the realm of possible / normal?
With all our years of discussion and drama and insider participation, I’m tempted to believe that we are sensationalizing the happenings and looking to make things seem more exciting and salacious than they really are.
Maybe all this is just a normal day in the civil courts and the vacuumers just sip their coffees and smile at our naivety?
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Does it happen, based on my experiences probably yes it does. Is it normal or supposed to be what happens? NO!!
Everything before the judge is supposed to be public record.
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Do all of these things happen in single cases? Refusing to come for depositions, ignoring subpoenas, emailing the judge etc. etc. ?
Sure, one by itself could be a shrug, things happen… but all of them? Is this how civil cases normally go?
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At the very least, Taylor needs to be investigated, if this is all true. If he did in fact provide LK with his notes, he needs to be removed from the bench. This whole thing continues to be an absolute travesty of justice.
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From my perspective there’s a whole lot of not normal and irregular happening here.
A timeline of what’s not normal, if you will:
SGF and MB issue subpoenas to JK and KK respectively. (Totally normal)
JK and KK do not respond. Not too weird, but made more abnormal because JK is a lawyer.
SGF and MB file requests for contempt. Normal when one ignores a subpoena.
JK and KK do not respond to the motions. Highly irregular.
Bruce Nagel files a request to quash the subpoenas. Beyond abnormal for two reasons:
A) he does not represent either JK or KK and B) the time for that was before the motions for contempt.
JK writes an email to the judge. Not Even Close to normal. Not even a little bit ok, especially because he’s a lawyer.
Not that I’ve seen.
And no, the plaintiff doesn’t usually try to wriggle out of a deposition in the suit she filed. The plaintiff usually knows, or should have known, the case is going nowhere without her deposition, and she picked the playground.
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